Benefits of a LTR

[Trump]

I'm thinking the time you spend being a LTR could be the time you spend meeting and sleeping with other girls.

Can you guys give me benefits of being a LTR? Lets even break it down to nationalities. What are the benefits of being with one European girl for years, than constantly rotating one European, one Canadian, one American, one Russian and one Chinese girls for years? Is it the closeness? The connection? The stuff that you feel in your heart but can't see or touch or get monetary value for?

Help me out boys.

 

[Desdinova]

First of all, I believe that there are two camps of men here; Ones who want a LTR, and ones who would prefer to indulge in STRs or just fvck a lot of different broads. I have respect for both camps.

I'm more on the side of being in a LTR. The benefits of being in an LTR are what usually make up the benefits for those who would prefer a revolving door of women. I'm personally tired of the repeated cycle; Meet, number close, date, fvck, toss, repeat ad nauseum. I'm also tired of dealing with the plethora of damaged women. For someone who likes the revolving door, the world is a giant ball pit full of damaged women to fvck.

If you get yourself into a LTR that's actually WORTH investing time into, then you get a lot of benefits. You no longer have to go out and look for women to fvck. You can use that time to do other things that give you more value for your time. For someone like me who has an endless list of hobbies, that's a huge benefit. If a guy wants to have kids, that dedicated and respectful woman is a gold nugget.

Personally, I enjoy having a great chick hanging around. I can progress with her instead of repeatedly flushing experiences down the toilet. We can take trips together, we can simply do nothing together, gift giving becomes easier because you get to know her better over time, and the work you have to put into a healthy relationship is a fraction of what you have to put into the revolving door of women.

Personally, I have better things I could be doing than chasing a bunch of damaged bytches. When I'm not in a relationship, I'm more interested in putting the effort into finding a woman who doesn't fit into the category of "damaged bytch". As far as I can tell, my work has paid off, and I have more time to devote to my hobbies.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Sex every night.

Even the best "players" will not get laid every single time they want to.

 

[amaterasu]

The right process before you get married.

 

[ohrein]

Simple. Sex versus companionship. If you just wanna **** and then go about your day, keep it casual. If you enjoy the company of a woman you have sex with then you date them. I've had plenty of both and a couple of great friends with benefits too. When you find a woman with high IL who is kind and compassionate and adds a lot of value to your life, then you start to want to keep them around.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Simple. Sex versus companionship. If you just wanna **** and then go about your day, keep it casual. If you enjoy the company of a woman you have sex with then you date them. I've had plenty of both and a couple of great friends with benefits too. When you find a woman with high IL who is kind and compassionate and adds a lot of value to your life, then you start to want to keep them around.

This is assuming people can have sex without commitment whenever they want. This is not attainable for most people, despite their claims and bragging.

Iow, you get much more sex in a relationship. Tradeoff being that it might get boring with the same person.

 

[ohrein]

This is assuming people can have sex without commitment whenever they want. This is not attainable for most people, despite their claims and bragging.

Iow, you get much more sex in a relationship. Tradeoff being that it might get boring with the same person.

If you can't get sex then how can you get a relationship? At that point the question is moot.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

If you can't get sex then how can you get a relationship? At that point the question is moot.

You could get sex every day if you were in a relationship. But not so easy if you're just looking for one night stands all the time.

 

[ohrein]

You could get sex every day if you were in a relationship. But not so easy if you're just looking for one night stands all the time.

Oh I see what you're saying, sorry. I misunderstood you. Yeah, you will get more regular sex in an LTR or FWB.

 

[Trump]

I'm personally tired of the repeated cycle; Meet, number close, date, fvck, toss, repeat ad nauseum. I'm also tired of dealing with the plethora of damaged women. For someone who likes the revolving door, the world is a giant ball pit full of damaged women to fvck.

You being tired of it does not mean it’s a benefit. Meeting different women does not mean they are damaged. One woman could be damaged too.

If you get yourself into a LTR that's actually WORTH investing time into, then you get a lot of benefits. You no longer have to go out and look for women to fvck.

That’s laziness on the mans part.

You can use that time to do other things that give you more value for your time.

How a mans spends his time is up to him.

For someone like me who has an endless list of hobbies, that's a huge benefit.

How a man spends his time is up to him.

If a guy wants to have kids, that dedicated and respectful woman is a gold nugget.

Having kids in a LTR does not mean a woman will dedicated and respectful to you, she will be for the kids. How does that benefit you?

I can progress with her instead of repeatedly flushing experiences down the toilet. We can take trips together, we can simply do nothing together, gift giving becomes easier because you get to know her better over time,

What does knowing her better have to do with gift giving? You are telling me you would give your 44 year old LTR a better gift than a 27 year movie star you can sleep with?

and the work you have to put into a healthy relationship is a fraction of what you have to put into the revolving door of women.

How? If you are with one girl for several years her expectations go up while her value does down. If you are with 5 girls, there expectations are kept in check at all times.

Unless you want to ‘connect’ with them. Get something that you can’t feel, see, or touch, but ‘feel’ good.

Personally, I have better things I could be doing than chasing a bunch of damaged bytches. When I'm not in a relationship, I'm more interested in putting the effort into finding a woman who doesn't fit into the category of "damaged bytch". As far as I can tell, my work has paid off, and I have more time to devote to my hobbies.

You still haven’t logically explained why it’s a benefit.

I just got to logically understand. When I get fixated on one girl, I got to know why I’m not constantly hitting on others. The only response I can come up with is ‘familiarity’ and ‘it’s feels good’. Two things that sound girly and don’t make the world go around.

 

[Trump]

Sex every night.

LTR does not mean sex every night. She controls it while you can’t sleep with other women.

Come on guys, do better.

 

[Trump]

Sex versus companionship.

Companionship you can’t feel, see, or touch. So you would limit your sexual options because you want the woman to be ‘by your side’? You wouldn’t sleep with a 27 year old hot girl so your 38 year old LTR can be home when you get home?

I’ll take the sex with the 27 year old.

When you find a woman with high IL who is kind and compassionate and adds a lot of value to your life, then you start to want to keep them around.

We are limiting are sexual options for ‘compassionate’ and ‘kind’? That sounds girly. What value, can a woman who has been with you for 10 years, offer that a girl that has been with you for 1 month, can’t?

Personally I think we are lazy and don’t want to risk rejection. It’s too much effort to attract new girls, just stick with the ones who are always by your side.

 

[Desdinova]

You still haven’t logically explained why it’s a benefit.

Explaining the benefits of a LTR to you is like explaining how good seafood is to a person who doesn't like seafood. For me, the discussion ends here.

 

[The Duke]

@Desdinova pretty well summed it up for me. When I was burning thru girls every 1-2months it consumed all of my free time. I was at some bar 3 nights a week. I was on dating sites. I was going out on a lot of dates. I was doing all I could to ensure the supply never ran out and the bases were always loaded. All I required was that she was hot and fun so I had plenty of nuts to deal with. And after your prove to yourself that you can run a racket like that then you grow tired of how shallow that life really is.

LTR's have nothing to do about being lazy, they simply allow you to focus your time on things far more valuable and rewarding than chasing women. And the sex in a LTR has always been better and far more frequent than dating random girls a few weeks at a time. I've never had a problem with an LTR controlling or denying sex. If you do, that's on you.

It takes a different set of skills to maintain a successful LTR than it does to run thru a bunch of women. A lazy man will fail in both arena's.

@Trump - How many women have you been with? How many relationships over 1yr have you had? What do you do outside of work? Is it easy for you to connect with women on a personal level?

 

[Trump]

LTR's have nothing to do about being lazy, they simply allow you to focus your time on things far more valuable and rewarding than chasing women.

How a man spends his time is up to him

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And the sex in a LTR has always been better and far more frequent than dating random girls a few weeks at a time.

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The sex is better with a 35 year old you have been with for 5 years than with a 27 year hot waitress you meet for the first time?

I don't know bro. For me after the first few months it's the same thing. Plus what you are describing is about feeling good, not about substance.

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I've never had a problem with an LTR controlling or denying sex. If you do, that's on you.

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It's not the fact that you have never had a problem with it, it's the fact that she controls it. Suppose you are super horny one night your LTR and she doesn't want to do it, the power is in her hands.

You got the 27 year old phone her up and get it going, you have won.

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It takes a different set of skills to maintain a successful LTR than it does to run thru a bunch of women. A lazy man will fail in both arena's.

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Agree with lazy for LTR. Don't agree lazy to go through a bunch of women.

I still don't know how you guys can commit to one woman. It's like having chocolate ice cream every time you want ice cream. Don't you want strawberry, vanilla, mango, peach?

I'm still thinking it's laziness. If you guys had the skill and could, you would be banging a different girl every other night.

 

[Roober]

Why does this exact same thread pop up weekly?

LTRs work for me for a number of reasons...
1. I like to travel and spending that time with someone you enjoy is much better than seeing things alone. It is also cheaper as you will split food and hotel bills. When you have filtered for a good woman, you will share common interests in food, sightseeing, leisure activities, etc. Cycling women will result in less desirable travel experiences. For example, I don't have to explain why I stay at cheap hotels, or why I like fine dining, or worry about restaurant choices because they don't like certain foods.
2. I agree with @Desdinova that healthy LTRs are easy, smooth and fun. Running through the number close, date, sex, rinse and repeat cycle just ends up feeling pointless. What is the end game? Sex. then what? more sex. then what? more sex. That is only entertaining for so long... Focusing your life on getting laid just feels pointless to me... You blow your load, then what? Power to those that enjoy it, I just don't get much out of it
3. @RichardTheFrog got it somewhat right in that there is a steady stream of sex. You won't go on dry spells for too long. For example, me and my lady fvck 2-3 times a day when we are together, 4 days a week. I change it up regularly by location, speed, duration, etc. I don't know many guys that get that much sex from constantly cycling women. My dry spells come from my busy life, not because I don't have a woman to call at that time.
4. You deal with a lot more issues with cycling women. You will cross paths with damaged women, it's inevitable. Additionally, you will deal with the "what are we?" talk and any other nonsense.

Your obviously capable of courting a new woman each night. Good for you! That is your sexual agenda. If I were single, I still wouldn't do that. I just have better things to do than spend my time putting pvssy on a pedestal.

To discredit those that don't find any value in that is a display of ignorance.

 

[The Duke]

Answer my questions Trump.
@Trump - How many women have you been with? How many relationships over 1yr have you had? What do you do outside of work? Is it easy for you to connect with women on a personal level?

You avoided my questions because you knew I was about ready to set you up. I'll just cut to the chase.....You have issues connecting with people on a personal level. I can see it in how you converse on here, I'm not surprised you never had a successful LTR and therefore don't have the perspective. I also doubt you have been with enough women to realize there is no point after a certain number. Regardless you haven't fooled anybody here.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

LTR does not mean sex every night. She controls it while you can’t sleep with other women.

Come on guys, do better.

Haha. When she starts doing that, is when you bring up swinging or fvck hookers in secret.

 

[Trump]

Answer my questions Trump.
@Trump - How many women have you been with?

14

How many relationships over 1yr have you had?

3

What do you do outside of work?

Sports

Is it easy for you to connect with women on a personal level?

Sure.

You have issues connecting with people on a personal level. I can see it in how you converse on here, I'm not surprised you never had a successful LTR and therefore don't have the perspective. I also doubt you have been with enough women to realize there is no point after a certain number. Regardless you haven't fooled anybody here.

OK you have a successful long term relationship. How does that help you get a job/pay the bills/be healthier/get power?

You guys want to connect. I want power.

 

[Glassguy]

I consider myself a hybrid between the 2 groups on here. I can be perfectly content in a Itr as long as the woman doesn't try to change the schematics of the relationship (especially the fun stuff and sex). Being able to maintain frame is a must.

I can also be happy pumping and dumping. It all comes down to the women and how I benefit from having her around more and also my mindset at the onset with that woman.

I spin plates until one separates herself and makes me feel as if her being around on a consistent basis benefits me more. If I don't feel that way, I keep her in rotation until she eliminates herself from the race and gets replaced.

Where most men falter in a LTR/marriage is allowing the woman to take power and lead, compromise and negotiation and then total loss of power.

I'm not getting into a relationship to later barter away things that I liked and agreed to with a woman that got me that far with her in the first place (fun, sex, etc). I'm getting into a LTR to get those things more consistently and because the friendship and companionship is there with her too.

I'll keep spinning plates rather than get into a LTR with the wrong woman.