I don't think i said that. What I mean to say is that if the value differential is too much, then the women often runs away. So if a guy is a lot better looking then the woman she will often run away. This applies to insecure women the most. So value is in a guys looks. Make no mistake about it. Looks are a mans currency in addition to other factors ( money, status etc).
Looks don't matter for women when looking for LTR
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RichardTheFrog
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Well that sucks.
So there's nothing I can do. I cannot drastically alter my appearance. I look like what I look like.
I can get rich. And I definitely plan to.
It annoys me when people say " I've seen ugly guys with hot girls". You have NOOO idea the history that they have. You do not know the angle that he used. You do not know if he is bank rolling her. They may have a back story that makes sense. Some cultures give the women hardly any choice with whom they date. Indians and Ethopians rarely date outside their ethnicity. So the market is restricted so they have to date a certain guy. You have no idea. If I could have a choice between extreme good looks being broke vs being ugly with money, the broke handsome guy would win. Looks matter a lot to women. Its up there with money as far as importance especially with younger women. My extremely good looking friends get ***** thrown at them.
You can get a lot of muscles. That works like crazy. A below average face and a great physique will pull hot chicks. Your body is within your control.
What's crazy is how much value women have literally for just being born
Look at it this way, I'm about a 7-8/10 on pure facial looks. Take away makeup and I'm naturally much more beautiful than even most female 8-10/10s. I wake up in the morning and my skin is perfect/glowing - I don't need 45 minutes of makeup. My body is every bit as toned and much much more powerful/athletic. I dress better than 99% of women
So I have vast vast majority of women destroyed on all their classic female traits plus all the classic male traits (intelligence, accomplishments, money, success, etc....)
Yet I can't get a date meanwhile any 26 year old 7-8/10 with great body like mine who makes 30k a year as a waitress can date a professional athlete or a male model. Think about how crazy that difference is. It's just astonishing
It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
god these threads just make me want to bash my brains in
I have everything you idiots talk about - a very attractive face, big muscles and tons of money, big house, fancy car, etc... The only women who show interest tend to be 40+, whales, etc... I can't remember the last time a cute 26 year old girl acknowledged my existence.
Stop misleading people
RichardTheFrog
Banned
Post a picture of yourself.
I posted a pic of myself - everybody agreed I was very attractive and that's a horrible cell phone pic. I look 100 times better in real life
You guys constantly post this nonsense of "if you have this, then dating women is easy". The honest reality is that women don't work on logic like men do - nothing makes dating them easy. I don't give a f*ck if you have a 15 inch diamond **** that spits out chocolate all day long - you still have to have 2850385208603263528520352 other things in line just to have a chance at dating.
Men work on logic - if you're an attractive woman with a nice personality, you will have a billion dating options. There is no opposite version of that unless you're a movie star.
RichardTheFrog
Banned
Some guys seem to have no problem
I am not misleading people. I think it is a you issue bro. You might not be as smooth as you think ( this is not an insult brother). I have gone out gaming with some good looking guys. I have more experience at cold approach than most guys ever will and I can prove it. I come from a culture that makes approaching women a sport ( I grew up with black guys as my mentors on women lol). I am telling you that very handsome men do better with women. That being said it is still not easy. It is like sales. If you have a good product you will still get a lot of no's. But you will also get a lot of girls that are interest in sex. Not in a relationship but definitely sex.
That 26 yr old hottie may not show an obvious sign of interest. But did you go up and talk to her? Did you try to make her laugh? I can promise you that if you are as good looking as you say you are, then if you approach 20 women at least 1 will sleep with you. If you can't get even 1 to sleep with you then you are the issue. Could it be that you may be slightly less smooth than you think or that you are not approaching enough women??
doh I have been told "you are very very cute but I dont know" when i tried to grab her with my arm twice on recent date. i think first time ever i heard something like that. is it equivalent to lets just be friends? am cute?
This is true. I am a 6.5/10 in my opinion in looks. I mostly have sex with 6/10s and my last girlfriend was a 7/10. Every once in a while I will score an 8/10 ( once in a blue moon). I am telling you that if you get in awesome shape and you learn how to be funny then you will do okay with women.
I have a friend who is very attractive and he has game. He can't keep a cute girl but he plays the numbers and bangs about 10% of the cute girls that he goes after. That is a pretty good average. I think most guys think that if they are not banging 50% of the women they approach then they are doing something wrong. This is not true. 10% of all the women you approach is really good.
Imagine if you were a sales men and you were closing 10% of all clients that you cold approach! You would be a rich man very quickly. Pick up is hard for anyone but it is less difficult for very good looking guys. Just make sure that you are not a douche or have akward mannerisms. Most guys are too un self aware to know if they come off as weird. So they type up these posts saying " I am good looking yet I can't get a cute girl". That is because they secretly have no game or they need to work on certain aspects of their demeanor.
Dude I learned cold approach from black dudes. These guys had balls of steel and would go up to any chick with that ridiculous over confidence. I can rival any one at pick up. I have seen what is possible. These guys would be broke as fu*k but still manage to pull that 7/10 chicks number. Its crazy. Now is black guy game ideal....no. Most of them need to tone it down. But my point is that having that kind of delusional confidence mixed in with a little humor is what will elevate your game to the next level.
my first gf was asked for a number by a black guy and she gave it to him!! omg but she told me and she didnt picked up his calls
Good I am happy that she didn't pick up his call ( joke, I am black so I can make that joke). But thats usually what happens. Learn black guy game bro. If you are white guy and you have that goofy/ smooth black guy game then you will kill it. I have a white best friend that I have known for almost 14 years. We are like brothers. This kid is a straight killer. He took elements of urban game and mixed it in with white guy game and now he scores good looking girls consistently.
The key element that urban guys have is that they are a mix of goofy with delusional self confidence. If you can make her giggle you immediately become non threatening. Let me give you an example. I have a friend that was at Starbucks. He see's a cute girl. He writes his name and number on a napkin and he goes up to her and says " i think you dropped this". She immediately starts laughing. She was almost an 8/10 and be smashes her the same night. She doesn't return his texts afterwards but hey thats part of the game. Do you understand how smooth that is? Until you have the balls to do goofy **** like that I don't want to hear any men complain that they are handsome and can't get girls. Admittedly he is a very handsome guy so this works better for him than most.
You gotta keep it goofy. Be a clown but not over the top. There are a million different things you can say. The key is to provide positive emotions.
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You should have said some goofy ****. You should have blamed it on her. Act like she was trying to hold your hand or something stupid. Or be like " you don't know?......after we make out I promise I will call you in the morning". Just some delusional ****. But the only way to tell if you have a shot is if she goes on a second date and you try to kiss her. But don't make it akward. Make it a game. Make it funny. Most guys have no game and they blame it on the women.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
10% in sales is horrible dude. I sell cars and I close about 45% of the people I talk to
Think about what you're saying - you can be a good looking, awesome guy and still get rejected by 90% of women you approach. Is that how screwed up dating is nowadays?
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
Yep. How many times have you heard men say. "What is her fvcking problem? I am just like I was when we met... now she is b!tching and nagging me to 'change', if she didn't like me the way I was... why did she go with me?"
Well the answer to that rhetorical question is that she SETTLED for you. And now that she has you... you have become her project. The funny part, funny if you are a sadistic fvck, is if you are an actual Alpha, and she DOES get you.... she will try and nag you into becoming a beta. That's right chicks never know what the fvck they want. They are children, lazy children. Unless you are prepared to treat your woman like the oldest child in your house, you will be treated like absolute garbage.
She will nag her Alpha man until he becomes a weakling because she knows that other chicks will want him. She wants him to change because she wants him all to herself!!!! When she succeeds in beating her man into submission... well.... he no longer makes her wet, so she started fvcking the A-hole fvck boys.
If you are foolish enough to try and do a LTR the only way to keep her long term is refuse to change... she will nag you to change because she is lazy and wants YOU to put in the effort. Eventually she will realize the ONLY way she is going to keep you is to work on herself.... when she starts putting in effort to keep you, she will consider you more valuable since we only appreciate what we have to work for. BTW.... this never fvcking ends, she will keep doing this your whole life. Emotional manipulation and nagging, just never give in. I'm not saying treat her like cr@p, and you will have to give in now and then, but you have to train her properly. Never NEVER give in when she is nagging and demanding. ONLY comply when she is sweat and submissive. And if she is demanding, and you know something has to get done... then play with her a little... tell her "So... what is it worth to you?" Then bargain. But NEVER bargain for sex. Sex is not a bargaining tool... it is a GIVEN in a relationship... do not train your chick to give you sex as a reward. If she starts that bvllsh!t you need to nip that in the bud IMMEDIATELY. If she threatens to cut you off, you tell her if she does you will get sex from someone else. DO NOT be afraid to walk away for this... if your chick cuts you off she is done... this has to be non-negotiable.
Men have thicker skin which makes us age slower than women because wrinkles take longer to form unless we spend a lot of time in the sun or have a very bad diet.
Like I said before.. if your VALUE is already higher than a woman's, she will see you more as a fling. Only very naive or very confident woman will consider you for a LTR. They even did studies on this and woman prefer attractive men for flings and sex. They prefer nerds and ugly men for LTR because they feel more secure and know the man won't be able to level up on her even with her VALUE dropping by the second.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...709/reasons-not-date-attractive-masculine-man
Women are insecure AF. The truth is.. most of them "can't handle" a real man lol.
Damn my dude you close almost half of the people you talk to...you are amazing at sales. Good for you! The one difference I want to point out is that with car sales they are already looking to buy. Cold approach they sometimes don't even want to be bothered. But you are right 10% is abysmal but it is good in relative terms. That means you end up smashing 1 out of ever 10 cute girls you cold approach. I would take those odds.
AttackFormation
Master Don Juan
How can a man even go back to sleeping in the same bed as a woman who is "together" with him, but threatens to cut sex off? If a woman did that to me, I would laugh in her face and walk out immediately. Are there actually men who live like that?
