How do YOU get girls to want to invest in you without money?

[doctor1996]

I don't know how to do 5 seconds.

Unless there is something to actually talk about, then I can talk as long as I need to. Such as at the bank, etc.

There always is, just use your brain. Be observant..

Don't be too serious. And let it flow naturally. Don't overthink everything.

 

[zekko]

If I said that, they would say...
"I don't even know you."

Yeah, it's not an opening line. Like doctor1997 says, you have to build some rapport first.
Sounds like you need to put yourself in situations where there are more women around. I know you're not much into socializing, but it would do you good to practice. Maybe do some of the exercises in the DJ Bible.
Bars are nice, but most women who hang out in bars are trash.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Yeah, it's not an opening line. Like doctor1997 says, you have to build some rapport first.
Sounds like you need to put yourself in situations where there are more women around. I know you're not much into socializing, but it would do you good to practice. Maybe do some of the exercises in the DJ Bible.
Bars are nice, but most women who hang out in bars are trash.

I've gone out 1000's of times over the past 3 years, believe it or not. I don't find most of them to be especially interesting.

 

[zekko]

I've gone out 1000's of times over the past 3 years, believe it or not. I don't find most of them to be especially interesting.

Well, that's the problem with casual dating. You meet a lot of people who aren't interesting to you, or aren't well matched with you, or whatever.
That's why a lot of guys say they hate dating.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Well, that's the problem with casual dating. You meet a lot of people who aren't interesting to you, or aren't well matched with you, or whatever.
That's why a lot of guys say they hate dating.

It's not even "dating," though.

It's just sitting by myself barely talking to anyone.

I would LOVE dating if it always involved sex or oral, or hey, even a handjob lol.

 

[Urbanyst]

I just take them out and enjoy their company. My question would be the opposite: How do you get a girl to go out with you by paying them? Do you say "Hey, I'll give you five bucks if you go out with me"? Or whatever the going rate is. As for professionals, to be honest, I'm not even sure where I would find a hooker. I'd have to look into it.

Lol. Exactly.

 

[Glassguy]

It's not even "dating," though.

It's just sitting by myself barely talking to anyone.

I would LOVE dating if it always involved sex or oral, or hey, even a handjob lol.

That's the problem here. You don't want to work for anything. You'd rather pay a few hundred to a couple of wh0res from SA but then you turn around and complain that you can't find someone you connect with.

You want to add muscles but complain that you don't have time to work out.

You want to get better at talking to women but then you go to a bar and don't talk to anyone, then complain about how every one else acted in the bar.

Lots of complaining but no real effort going into improving yourself, which is where it all starts.

You want it easy and have it handed to you. It doesn't work like that.

I remember being a freshman in high school and I didn't start on the varsity baseball team because a senior started at my position instead (shortstop). My dad told me to work harder because if I was AS GOOD as him, he would start because he was older and had put in his time. I couldnt be as good, I had to be better.

So I worked harder. I would be at the batting cages in 90 degree heat hitting hundreds of balls. Finding people to hit me 75 ground balls in the heat.

The senior got the flu and I started and went 4 for 4 at the plate and had no errors in the field. I started the rest of the season and he sat the bench.

I carried that same work ethic through high school and got a full ride baseball scholarship. I earned it.

Good things come from working at self improvement and seeing the results. Things earned are much sweeter than things given.

 

[doctor1996]

That's the problem here. You don't want to work for anything. You'd rather pay a few hundred to a couple of wh0res from SA but then you turn around and complain that you can't find someone you connect with.

You want to add muscles but complain that you don't have time to work out.

You want to get better at talking to women but then you go to a bar and don't talk to anyone, then complain about how every one else acted in the bar.

Lots of complaining but no real effort going into improving yourself, which is where it all starts.

You want it easy and have it handed to you. It doesn't work like that.

I remember being a freshman in high school and I didn't start on the varsity baseball team because a senior started at my position instead (shortstop). My dad told me to work harder because if I was AS GOOD as him, he would start because he was older and had put in his time. I couldnt be as good, I had to be better.

So I worked harder. I would be at the batting cages in 90 degree heat hitting hundreds of balls. Finding people to hit me 75 ground balls in the heat.

The senior got the flu and I started and went 4 for 4 at the plate and had no errors in the field. I started the rest of the season and he sat the bench.

I carried that same work ethic through high school and got a full ride baseball scholarship. I earned it.

Good things come from working at self improvement and seeing the results. Things earned are much sweeter than things given.

Where did you attend?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

That's the problem here. You don't want to work for anything. You'd rather pay a few hundred to a couple of wh0res from SA but then you turn around and complain that you can't find someone you connect with.

You want to add muscles but complain that you don't have time to work out.

You want to get better at talking to women but then you go to a bar and don't talk to anyone, then complain about how every one else acted in the bar.

Lots of complaining but no real effort going into improving yourself, which is where it all starts.

You want it easy and have it handed to you. It doesn't work like that.

I remember being a freshman in high school and I didn't start on the varsity baseball team because a senior started at my position instead (shortstop). My dad told me to work harder because if I was AS GOOD as him, he would start because he was older and had put in his time. I couldnt be as good, I had to be better.

So I worked harder. I would be at the batting cages in 90 degree heat hitting hundreds of balls. Finding people to hit me 75 ground balls in the heat.

The senior got the flu and I started and went 4 for 4 at the plate and had no errors in the field. I started the rest of the season and he sat the bench.

I carried that same work ethic through high school and got a full ride baseball scholarship. I earned it.

Good things come from working at self improvement and seeing the results. Things earned are much sweeter than things given.

Well I don't know what to talk about.

 

[Glassguy]

@doctor1996 If you look at my profile close enough you'll figure it out.

And I thought you said you were going to ignore me? How are you even seeing this?

 

[Glassguy]

Well I don't know what to talk about.

That's EXACTLY your problem. You spend time making excuses instead of finding solutions.

Talk about anything. Weather, travel, interest, how her day was.....this isn't that hard Richard. You just dont want to try. P!ss poor effort on your part and nobody can help with that but yourself

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Them.

I'd post the same video that I used to get a grip, but the makers fell out and took it off Youtube. I ripped it, but don't know where it is.

(Krauser and Torrero's "beginner guide to daygame", if you can find it about)

And there's like a 99.9% chance that you wouldn't even try it anyway, if we're being frank.

You aren't going to develop much until you start speaking to women. It's as simple as that.

A handful of approaches, and you'll improve more in one afternoon/evening than in the year or so that you've spent trolling on here.

I'm not a "beginner" of anything...

Trying to force small talk with strangers is barely even communication.

But behind closed doors I'm a psycho limited only by the law and the fact that I don't want to get arrested.

The reason why I can't think of anything to say is because there is nothing to talk about. I can talk for hours with anyone if there is anything to talk about.