How the hell do you guys pick up women at bars?

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Most women come in big groups which makes it very difficult to tell who is single and who is not
You go through the work of finding someone you like who is only there with 1 girl and start talking to her - almost inevitably, the friend wants to leave or go somewhere else even if you do entertain the friend

Seriously, it's insanely hard to keep the attention of a cute young girl at a bar. How the hell do you guys do it?

I'm not looking to get laid with a heavily drunk skank, I'm looking to talk to quality girls who just had a drink or two
 
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Stay sober. Show up at the bar right before last call to have one drink. Invite drunk girls to your place to have one more drink, smoke weed, whatever.

Bars are for drinking, at least if you spend any time there. If you want a girl out of the deal, then get in, get the girl, and get out, and right as they close is the best time to pull that off.
 

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I usually hit on at least a semi single girl whether she sits down beside me or I have to approach her from across the bar.
Single girl+bar+ you=DTF.
The closure results depend on your personal seduction abilities.
 
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and right as they close is the best time to pull that off.
No, that’s when you may get a woman that no one else wanted earlier that evening unless there was a male shortage at your bar that night
 
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Practice. It's just another person, standing right in front of you. The only real obstacles between you, her & a pleasant interaction are in your head. How comfortable you are with the situation will determine her reaction to you, for the most part--it'll come thru in your 'subcomms' (tonality, body language, eye contact, etc.). The only way to get comfortable is practice.

It took me about 4 or 5 months of really brutal rejections before I started seeing sporadic results (sometimes with the same girls that rejected me before). Within a year, I was able to enter a bar, talk to any girl I wanted to & have a pretty good shot of getting her home. That's a major investment--and one most guys won't make.
 

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Most women come in big groups which makes it very difficult to tell who is single and who is not
You go through the work of finding someone you like who is only there with 1 girl and start talking to her - almost inevitably, the friend wants to leave or go somewhere else even if you do entertain the friend

Seriously, it's insanely hard to keep the attention of a cute young girl at a bar. How the hell do you guys do it?

I'm not looking to get laid with a heavily drunk skank, I'm looking to talk to quality girls who just had a drink or two
In my experience, I was drunk. And I was with a few friends. They were all fob's being lame, and not talking to any girls. And I asked one of them to come with me and they didn't, so all I did was, tap them on the shoulder and ask for their name lol. I wouldn't do that if I was sober, eventually, I led the conversation where I was putting my arm around a few. I think I also hugged a girl too hard because I was hammered. And you just ask for the number. I also said, it was my birthday *birthday was 2 days ago, so that was a great conversation opener. Yeah I had 3 girls grinding on me while I was chugging a cranberry vodka, and I also got one of their numbers.


But I practiced talking with groups. For instance, went to this restaurant to pick up my food, and asked all the girls behind the counter about this challenge the restaurant offers. And they were all giving me insight on it, but you keep asking them questions. Then they had people to serve, and what not, and I was talking with one behind the counter, and she kept hammering me with questions.. Assuming I made myself seem interesting, I could have number closed but I didn't feel like she was in my league. This was just practice for me. But you get the idea?
 

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As @fastlife said, practice. Repetitions get you over the anxiety. It's a skill. You get good at any skill through repetition.

Read @narcissist 's thread about 100 sets in 100 days. Learn to approach. Learning to approach will teach you calibration & ease interacting with women. From there it becomes about closing the deal.

The best closers of all are the ones who have girls closing them. How do you get to that point? You create desire by building rapport with amused mastery. You take no one woman too seriously and you flirt with many. All that takes calibration, which you learn by practicing and repetition & becoming immune to rejection.
 

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Practice. It's just another person, standing right in front of you. The only real obstacles between you, her & a pleasant interaction are in your head. How comfortable you are with the situation will determine her reaction to you, for the most part--it'll come thru in your 'subcomms' (tonality, body language, eye contact, etc.). The only way to get comfortable is practice.

It took me about 4 or 5 months of really brutal rejections before I started seeing sporadic results (sometimes with the same girls that rejected me before). Within a year, I was able to enter a bar, talk to any girl I wanted to & have a pretty good shot of getting her home. That's a major investment--and one most guys won't make.
@bigdave17
Follow the above advise, that's what I personally did and I feel right at home in bars/clubs. You will suffer on some nights 20 rejections but when you're through the experience you can pull a girl in under an hour and get relaxed (strap up of course) it's a great skill to have and the confidence of knowing that you can get girls whenever you want permeates in your interactions.

Also before I forget, learn to make friends with guys in club/bar settings, it will help in figuring out whose with who and which girls are free when they are in groups, they will occasionally offer you drinks if you're cool and tell you to chat with the women they're with. Just be cool about it and you'll have a ton of fun.
 

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This is something I've always struggled with. I'm 25, from Sydney, and Sydney girls are known for being extremely snobbish to say the least.

When I'm in a club/pub, there is never any shortage of absolute glamours in large groups, but I KNOW (because I've tried) that women, especially in their early to mid 20s are almost impossible to approach, in that they already see me coming from a mile away and have already made their mind up based off appearance.

I'm only 5"8 but I'm fit and weight-lift 5-6 days a week and always dress to impress. But in my experience, these girls don't even want to maintain eye contact let alone have a conversation.

In some cases girls who aren't rude will kick back and have a quick chat but the vibe will be clear that it's nothing more than just her being friendly and not her giving the green light to take things any further.

I have no problem picking up within mixed friendship circles because they tend to have their guard down more often than not, but approaching a completely random girl is almost out of the question for me these days and for most guys I know.

Who knows.. maybe I'm just a little ***** with no game lol but women in my age bracket definitely get off on the validation of being pursued and having the power to reject any efforts in front of their friends.
 

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@Espi With all due respect, that's like telling guys they shouldn't start driving unless they know they can survive a car crash...

Violence is always a possibility but it's rarely inevitable. Guys instinctively respond to vibe, subcomms, social dominance, the same way girls do. They have the same evolutionary hindbrain girls do to ensure their survival. When you're first starting out, yeah, guys'll give you ****. Anxiety = Low Status = Safe Target. By the same token, Comfort = High Status = Unsafe Target.

Plenty of guys are sexually frustrated & would love nothing more than to get in a fight. They ping off their environment to find guys who are also in the same mindstate. So while you're see plenty of meat heads brawl it out if your frame is, I'm here to have a good time & for everyone else to have a time, and your frame is stronger than theirs, most guys won't have the agency to start swinging or the motivation to try to escalate violence in the first place.

The couple cities I've lived in & primarily gone out in in the past couple years are both on the upper end of violence in the US--I've seen a handful of guys just about get beaten to death. BUT I haven't had any problems in a loooong time--and I'll go up to girls who are on dates, with orbiters, once with a husband that I totally misread the body language on & mistook for her gay bestie, with boyfriends & all the boyfriends' friends. I've stepped in between my drunk azz buddy & the city's prominent coke dealer and a handful of his Yes Men to deescalate the situation. Nothing bad has happened. I used to have guys try to start sh1t, but that hasn't happened in a solid year or so. Now, I usually end up befriending the guys whose girls I cut in with.

The key is how you carry yourself. If you're just starting out & you run into d1ckheads, just deescalate the situation or find a new venue. Pvssy out as hard as you need to; leave the club; grab the bar staff; even shout that you're a pvssy & not to hurt you lol--let him get his little bit of validation & feel like the tough guy. No one in that venue is worth risking your health to impress. You can come back in a couple weeks and no one will even remember you.

@Young_Don It's not the girls, it's YOU. More specifically, YOUR APPROACH. You would have the same problem in any city. I can say that confidently because my first 4-5 months I ran into the same issues; and then proceeded to kill in that very same city with the same type of girls for the next year & a half.

Your frame is weak. You don't feel entitled to approach & your dependent on the reaction of the girls to validate your follow through. That's neediness & girls feel it at the bottom of their stomachs.

Here's a quick fix: Start talking like a traffic cop or a dog trainer. Project from your diaphragm, pretend your words are traveling straight from your mouth in an arc towards the ground. So instead of "Heyyy? How are youuu doing tonighttt?" its more like, "YOU. Who the FVCK are YOU." Hard to really explain the difference via text, but youll feel it when you hit the right tonality (and it'll immediately change how people react to you). Julien does a good job explaining it here:

 
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At bars when women are with friends, I have found the best approach is to just have a casual conversation with them. When you are done or ready to leave, ask them for their phone number and suggest meeting up another time.

This works for me all the time.
 
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