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I know it screams of "not so high interest in you right now", but I am just curious about how you guys handle this thing. You are talking to a girl, conversation looks all good, she's engaging and suddenly, she leaves it on seen.

Personally, when this happens, I just go ghost for a few days or for good, but is there any alternative way to this? I wanna hear what you do
 

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I don't pay any attention to it. She could be busy or just not looking to respond back to whatever it is you said at the time. When that happened to me I never texted back, that leaves the ball in her court.
 

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I see no alternative. Be calm and wait. I suggest you to go work the other female contacts you have and forget this *one* girl for a while. If something *really* interesting appear and you think you should talk to her, or invite her for something, it is OK. But no matter what, don't flood her with messages. Desperation will drop your value down. Focus in yourself, your life, projects, dreams. Give not too much attention to girls in your life. They should be a mere side effect of the man you build yourself day by day, not the objective of your life. Keep it up!!!
 

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This crap irritates me especially when you know they have logged on since as well. Also annoying when you ask a question. But we have to understand that everyone has a life and things to do. Just leave it be until you have something interesting to talk about or want to setup a date.

Oddly enough, this happens like once a month with my lady where she will not text or call much and go hours between convos or responses. Then I see her at night and have to act like everything is normal. And it is... Which means it's all in my head and nothing is going on. Then it will be all lovey dovey all over again. Just ignore it and contact her when you want to, not out of emotions... Women are emotional and sometimes whatever is going on in their day is taking precedent over you, I don't get it...
 

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You are talking to a girl, conversation looks all good, she's engaging and suddenly, she leaves it on seen.

Personally, when this happens, I just go ghost for a few days or for good, but is there any alternative way to this? I wanna hear what you do
That’s why you don’t ‘converse’ on screen.

Men, remember you don’t have all the time in the world with these girls. You got about 88 seconds to pique her interest or she will move on. Ask her out and get to the point dammit!
 

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That’s why you don’t ‘converse’ on screen.

Men, remember you don’t have all the time in the world with these girls. You got about 88 seconds to pique her interest or she will move on. Ask her out and get to the point dammit!
Exactly, leave the texting for dates, times and addresses.
 

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yeah dont build any rapport and go straight in for the kill, you americans must deal with different species over there because if you did that in the UK she would just go NC for your bull in a china shop approach.........not saying you should be her emotional tampon either
 

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I agree with @derby1 here. I don;t know how some guys here are able to use the phone to only set up dates in 2017, almost 2018. Personally, I have never had a problem building raport on screen then going out and keeping raport both in real life and on screen.

I was just curious how you guys handle it since I have "naturalized" to not answer back when they leave it seen. They leave it seen, I go about my things without caring much and it often happens they reach out themselves that day later on or the next day or whatever LOL
 

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been in contact with a girl for about/only 12 hours told her Im GOING SOMEWHERE saturday would be cool if she joined she has replied shed like to, I was gonna follow through with a call "TONIGHT" but my senses told me to call her tomm night as "im busy" give her some space to think about me 24 hours wont hurt
 

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I know it screams of "not so high interest in you right now", but I am just curious about how you guys handle this thing. You are talking to a girl, conversation looks all good, she's engaging and suddenly, she leaves it on seen.

Personally, when this happens, I just go ghost for a few days or for good, but is there any alternative way to this? I wanna hear what you do
Follow Newtons 3rd law.

" every action has an equal and opposite reaction. "

When they leave things on "seen" and dont reply. That is when you don't reply either.

People get busy. It happens but bottom line is people always make time for the things that matter to them.
 

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I agree with @derby1 here. I don;t know how some guys here are able to use the phone to only set up dates in 2017, almost 2018. Personally, I have never had a problem building raport on screen then going out and keeping raport both in real life and on screen.

I was just curious how you guys handle it since I have "naturalized" to not answer back when they leave it seen. They leave it seen, I go about my things without caring much and it often happens they reach out themselves that day later on or the next day or whatever LOL
I keep deleting this girls number, and I get her number reappearing on my phone because she sends me 4 texts the next day. I just said fvck it not gonna talk to her
 

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You cannot create genuine desire. Though you can contrive it. If she's not responding, she does not have the desire to respond. You contrive desire by creating space for desire to manifest.

Hence, you mirror her communications with a bit of amplification. She gives an inch, give her two. She takes an inch, take two. In time, she and her desire will fall in line.

Women communicate covertly. No response is the message, and the covert language she speaks. Respond by doing nothing, and if she does reach out, take longer to respond.

Men who get LJBF'ed fail to gauge the dynamic properly by pushing forward when they should be pulling back.
 

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You cannot create genuine desire. Though you can contrive it. If she's not responding, she does not have the desire to respond. You contrive desire by creating space for desire to manifest.

Hence, you mirror her communications with a bit of amplification. She gives an inch, give her two. She takes an inch, take two. In time, she and her desire will fall in line.

Women communicate covertly. No response is the message, and the covert language she speaks. Respond by doing nothing.

Men who get LJBF'ed fail to gauge the dynamic properly by pushing forward when they should be pulling back.
Translated simply you mean mirror her non-response at least and possibly even take it one step further?
 

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Translated simply you mean mirror her non-response at least and possibly even take it one step further?
Yup. Take longer to respond if she reaches out. If she doesn't reach out, relation is dead.

I could fairly state that for any relation to progress stronger, these dynamics need to play out so she can trust to surrender to your frame. Implicitly, you are demonstrating a take it-or--leave it attitude. "I don't need you." This contrives stronger desire in her. Diametrically, the minute she senses you "need" her, attraction (and the relation) is dead.
 

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Yup. Take longer to respond if she reaches out. If she doesn't reach out, relation is dead.

I could fairly state that for any relation to progress stronger, these dynamics need to play out so she can trust to surrender to your frame. Implicitly, you are demonstrating a take it-or--leave it attitude. "I don't need you." This contrives stronger desire in her. Diametrically, the minute she senses you "need" her, attraction (and the relation) is dead.
I get what you're saying, but don't you think these type of women are just...not worth the time? The ones who are interested will play these games to a minimum or not at all.
 

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I get what you're saying, but don't you think these type of women are just...not worth the time? The ones who are interested will play these games to a minimum or not at all.
Good question.

Interest is not linear. This is the mistake that we men make; that is to think that high IL will always stay high IL. High IL can falter, often to those men who operate unilaterally and are unaware of the underlying fluid dynamics.

Ever met a girl who was absolutely beautiful (to you) with a great attitude, but never gave you space, and was incessantly on you. What happened to your high IL in such a scenario?

All a man really needs to learn is self-respect, which means you respect yourself more than any women. Then all your actions will naturally operate as they should.
 

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I get the dynamics and I am OK with the dynamics, but in most cases, women playing these kind of games never ended up materializing in anything, that's why I was implying that when a woman decides to play it like that, I mostly decide not to play at all.
 

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I get what you're saying, but don't you think these type of women are just...not worth the time? The ones who are interested will play these games to a minimum or not at all.
Agreed Raider and Guru above.

Naturally, with women say who's own interest is greater than yours, you will inherently, unconsciously assume this communication pattern, as described by Guru. When you learn the self control with women whose interest is less obvious, you've basically won the dating game. Women whose desire is 50% plus will always initiate eventually. Always. Like garunteed always.

Radio silence is the purest of sh!t tests. She just sits back and watches weak men tie themselves up in knots.

My main girl at the moment is exactly like this. She will literally ghost for a week, travelling round Europe on an Eat Pray Love mission, then text me like clockwork a couple of days when she's back. What she doesn't realise is that she has barely started her own probation with me and, suffice to say, hers will last a lot longer than mine.
 
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