Why are guys so scared to be friends with hot women?

[captain55]

I think too many guys fear the friend zone. They can't stand the idea of being friends with a hot chick, almost like they feel like they aren't a man if they're friends with a smoking babe they aren't trying to ****. I used to be like this.

The truth is this...being friends with hot chicks will open doors to new hot women, it will bring you status, and if you have a lot of hot female friends you will end up banging a lot of them. If a girl goes out with you, and decided to friend zone you....there is still some attraction to you because she went out with you in the first place. There are A LOT of closed off women that friend zone almost every guy they ever have any sexual interest in. Ive been that guy...and ended up banging them.

Ever notice when you start dating a really hot chick she has a lot of friends that are good looking guys? You don't think she never thought about ****ing any of them before she met you? Or that she won't **** any of them when you break up? No they just couldn't seal the deal.

I think guys should go out with as many hot women as possible and stop taking the friend zone thing so personally, and start taking it more as a **** test. If a girl rejects you after a few dates or a date and wants to be friends, don't chase her...but don't be so quick to give up either. In my experience if a girl truly has no attraction to you, she has no desire to to be friends with you at all.

In my experience the hotter the girl the less direct she will be. so...if you have an 8.5's or higher on your hands don't take the friendzoning thing personally...she has more options and can friend zone even the most attractive guys....now if she is a 7 or a below and she friend zones you, your probably ****ed. Again Im sure there are exceptions but this is all from personal experience. Being put in the friend zone by the hottest chicks (above an 8) is not a death sentence.

 

[lizardking82]

I am not friends with hot women since most hot women are living *******s. Doesn;t have anything to do with the friendzone, they are just not interesting people and I can earn status myself, not through hanging out with hot women LOL

 

[captain55]

I am not friends with hot women since most hot women are living *******s. Doesn;t have anything to do with the friendzone, they are just not interesting people and I can earn status myself, not through hanging out with hot women LOL

By friends I don't mean you have to be their shoulder to cry on. Im talking about someone simply to join you for a hike or meet up with you for drinks now and then. Things happen....

 

[doctor1996]

I have a few like that, i don't see anything of them.

 

[lizardking82]

By friends I don't mean you have to be their shoulder to cry on. Im talking about someone simply to join you for a hike or meet up with you for drinks now and then. Things happen....

A lot of them are not as chill or as cool as you portray them, though. They are just *******s.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I don't have time for that. I don't even have any male friends. Why would I want to waste my precious time on Earth orbiting some girl?

Unless by "friend," she secretly means that we'll have sex at some point.

 

[Dingo]

Who's scared ?....

 

[Macaframalama]

I don't frequent clubs, strip clubs, etc. much anymore, but frequenting functions with hot girls in tow is great social proof and makes building comfort that much easier. They get treated just like one of the guys, if not catch more chit, but usually end up being some of the downest a$$ chics you will know, because they will go out of their way to prove it.

 

[Mazer]

If you do decide to become friends with a hot woman, make sure you hit on other women in front of her every time you hang out. Some woman tried to put me in the friend zone. I started flirting with beautiful women at the club right in front of her, she got jealous, went home and we banged.

 

[Billtx49]

When you meet good looking women all the time, she’s only another woman. It’s all about your exposure and interaction level mixed into your other options…

 

[Macaframalama]

Most of the chics I've met like this were through doing the same chit I was already doing to begin with. Coed softball, basketball, etc. They are more your alpha female (if that's actually a thing), extremely competitive type chics that happen to be pretty and like to have a wild time. I've met a few that were pot smokers or binge drinkers or both though too. Can't say I've smashed any of them, but have bagged tag alongs that I wouldn't have otherwise met and chics that we've invited to after-party with.

 

[captain55]

When you meet good looking women all the time, she’s only another woman. It’s all about your exposure and interaction level mixed into your other options…

Yeah but you can't bang every good looking woman that comes into your life. I used to feel like I had something to prove to myself if a hot chick showed interest in me I had to **** her. I realized sometimes NOT banging a hot chick is the best thing you can do to build that confidence. Took me years to realize the power of rejection. The only thing is most women won't want to be friends with you if you reject them, their ego will be too bruised.

 

[Billtx49]

Yeah but you can't bang every good looking woman that comes into your life. I used to feel like I had something to prove to myself if a hot chick showed interest in me I had to **** her. I realized sometimes NOT banging a hot chick is the best thing you can do to build that confidence. Took me years to realize the power of rejection. The only thing is most women won't want to be friends with you if you reject them, their ego will be too bruised.

If you experience good looking women frequently, your ego is not involved.
It’s about your personal exposure level.

 

[exhausted]

Never heard of anyone being scared of being friends with a hot woman before ever in my 39 years.

It is quite the opposite of orbitors hanging around where they don't belong.

Maybe this is a high school situation.

 

[exhausted]

Yeah but you can't bang every good looking woman that comes into your life. I used to feel like I had something to prove to myself if a hot chick showed interest in me I had to **** her. I realized sometimes NOT banging a hot chick is the best thing you can do to build that confidence. Took me years to realize the power of rejection. The only thing is most women won't want to be friends with you if you reject them, their ego will be too bruised.

How old are you?

 

[Urbanyst]

HOT women are usually ass-holes.

The nice ones are boring as sh*t and lazy to boot. They offer no VALUE as "friends". That's the issue. I'm a busy guy and don't have time for useless people.

I'm up to be friends with anyone who is good company. Male or female. But women are too busy playing games to really enjoy men as friends in most cases. It only works when the man is her lapdog orbiter or when she wants to f*ck the guy but he isn't that into her. Otherwise, usually not a fun relationship.

 

[BeExcellent]

If a woman is very attractive but friend zones you, if she doesn't shut you down completely, keep her as an asset and an ally. I have always had truly platonic male friends though the course of life. Some were men where neither of us were interested in dating each other, one was a guy I had a crush on but he friend zoned me, and a couple have been men who liked me but I friend zoned them. If its a friend zone situation whoever got put in the friend zone MUST be able to recalibrate to a non-sexual place, call it good and drive on. It is never going to work if one friend is really pining for the other.

And if your crush actually starts to see you in a different light after friend zoning you as you hang out (which CAN happen) it puts you in the driver's seat about how to progress. Because you ought to be OVER her looks.

When my old crush friend zoned me, I hit the re-set button and we have been pals now for 25 years (we catch up on the phone every other year or so). I would wing for him, we would give each other dating advice, we would work out together, etc. We would double date together with our respective significant others, I introduced him to people to help him network (so did my boyfriend), and I ended up helping him get started in his career. He invited me to his wedding when he got married (And he made sure is fiancee understood I was "one of the guys" to him.) He was invited to my wedding too, but he was already IN another friend's wedding that same weekend.

There are all sorts of advantages to being friends with hot women. The most obvious is the social proof it will get you. Here are some tips how hot women can assist you out there in dating land:

1. You can neg your hot friend in front of other women ("Why aren't you dating Suzy? She's very pretty..." and response "I know but she's also crazy/liberal/super feminist/a slvt *insert whatever quality you disqualify*) This works best if hot friend is on board and can slap you on the shoulder and say "Really?" Roll eyes and act a little flirty toward you.

2. If you dance (especially Latin, swing, country western *two-step*, or ballroom) your hot woman friend can showcase your ability to dance so all the other women can see you are a good dancer. Once women know you can dance, they will want to dance with you...especially if you were seen dancing with a hot chick. I used to hit the town with a guy buddy of mine and we did this all the time. He called me his "show pony". We'd get on the dance floor when the band started up, before it got crowded and we'd show off. He literally had his pick of whatever woman he wanted most nights. I got him laid A LOT.

3. You can gain entry into venues that require a woman to attend (exclusive nightclubs in NYC or Miami for example). Your hot gal pal is your date. This gets you into things like parties and the like where a man isn't allowed alone or where men alone or in groups have to wait longer to gain access. This gives you social proof and access to events where the promoters are wishing to avoid a sausage fest. Once in the venue you mingle and meet whoever you like. Gal pal does the same.

4. Hanging out with hot women will calibrate your behavior and get you very comfortable being around hot women. This will reduce your level of intimidation/anxiety when you are around other hot women, as you'll be accustomed to it. One thing that hot women screen for subconsciously is a man who doesn't pedestalize her and want to lick her boots because she's beautiful. This leads very quickly to supplication and desperation. Being friends with hot women and gaining a comfort level around hot women will cure a man of this habit, because underneath the pretty face and body hot women are just like anybody else (and in many cases MORE rather than less insecure as ya'll should be aware.) Women like men who are comfortable with them. If you are cool and in your element hanging with hot women, you'll be seen as intriguing and comfortable by the hot women.

It's best if you have a gal pal who is self-confident. If she wings for you she will get left alone some as you dance with or chat up other girls. Sometimes you'll take someone home and leave her at a venue. A good gal pal understands that and is cool about it. You don't want a clingy insecure gal pal who you can't leave to fend for herself some of the time.

 

[The Duke]

Please bring back POONKING. The number of fag boys raised by single mommies running around here is at an all time high.

The #1 complaint I hear from women about men is the males they run across act like women. I see more and more posts on here making me question many of you and your masculinity.

 

[marmel75]

"Scared"? Nobody is scared, 99% of the time the context is you know her because you tried to bang her and failed. Staying around to be her "friend" is the move of a weak orbiter with no options...

Some of the stuff you come up with is mind boggling for having been on this board for this long...you will get nowhere until your mindset changes.

 

[exhausted]

"Scared"? Nobody is scared, 99% of the time the context is you know her because you tried to bang her and failed. Staying around to be her "friend" is the move of a weak orbiter with no options...

Some of the stuff you come up with is mind boggling for having been on this board for this long...you will get nowhere until your mindset changes.

Well said