There is no way for a grown man to be as hot as a young girl.

[RichardTheFrog]

The key there is career success, which allows you to dress right and have confidence. There are not many 30/40+ year old stock boys who can dress for success and carry themselves with enough confidence to bag chicks who probably see most of those types of guys as a cash cow. The key on your part is not to fall for their bs and simply see them as a plate unless they happen to be the magical unicorn.

So you think it's impossible without money?

Even if you don't give her money, then what use are you to her? Why wouldn't she just fvck a guy she likes/finds more attractive than you who also gives her $0.

 

[highSpeed]

So you think it's impossible without money?

Even if you don't give her money, then what use are you to her? Why wouldn't she just fvck a guy she likes/finds more attractive than you who also gives her $0.

You're not serious right? Look, let me break it down for you. Why exactly is Mel Gibson dating a late 20s, early 30s chick? Is it because he's so handsome at like 60 that she couldn't possibly find someone else her age that she finds as attractive or more attractive? Is it because they have so many things in common because of that like 3 decade age gap? You know, he grew up when you still had black and white tv with an antenna and she grew up when you had cable and cell phones were just coming on the scene. Let's be honest, and studies have shown this, women look at men for resources, especially when they are looking to breed. Most likely, if she's any quality woman, she's not shacking up and having kids with the overnight seven eleven worker, she's looking for the VP of whatever, the President of this or that. Women are impressed by looks. Women are impressed by bedroom skills. Women are impressed by confidence. The most long lasting way to confidence and value in oneself is success. Career success. Sports success. Women success. At the heart of it is a desire to succeed. If you have a desire to succeed, you will be successful, have money and confidence. If you have those 3 things, guarantee you, no matter what your age is, you will be surrounded with women who are younger than you if you wish and ready to do the horizontal lambada.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You're not serious right? Look, let me break it down for you. Why exactly is Mel Gibson dating a late 20s, early 30s chick? Is it because he's so handsome at like 60 that she couldn't possibly find someone else her age that she finds as attractive or more attractive? Is it because they have so many things in common because of that like 3 decade age gap? You know, he grew up when you still had black and white tv with an antenna and she grew up when you had cable and cell phones were just coming on the scene. Let's be honest, and studies have shown this, women look at men for resources, especially when they are looking to breed. Most likely, if she's any quality woman, she's not shacking up and having kids with the overnight seven eleven worker, she's looking for the VP of whatever, the President of this or that. Women are impressed by looks. Women are impressed by bedroom skills. Women are impressed by confidence. The most long lasting way to confidence and value in oneself is success. Career success. Sports success. Women success. At the heart of it is a desire to succeed. If you have a desire to succeed, you will be successful, have money and confidence. If you have those 3 things, guarantee you, no matter what your age is, you will be surrounded with women who are younger than you if you wish and ready to do the horizontal lambada.

My question was...

Why would she want to be with you if you DIDN'T give her money?

 

[highSpeed]

My question was...

Why would she want to be with you if you DIDN'T give her money?

You give her a taste here and there. You show her what is possible for you to do. And then you get what you want. Wash, rinse, repeat.....until it doesn't work anymore and then on to the next one.

 

[byers90]

You have a terrible outlook and worry about bull****. There's no reason why you can't get a younger woman. Plenty of women will go for older guys, ugly ass mother ****ers, on the condition they have money alone. If you set aside all your preconceived bull**** & improve the overall package you'll be fine....but more than likely you'll just ***** on sosuave rather than do anything about it, now won't you?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You have a terrible outlook and worry about bull****. There's no reason why you can't get a younger woman. Plenty of women will go for older guys, ugly ass mother ****ers, on the condition they have money alone. If you set aside all your preconceived bull**** & improve the overall package you'll be fine....but more than likely you'll just ***** on sosuave rather than do anything about it, now won't you?

I don't know you and you don't know me, tough guy.

And who the fvck wants to give someone money?

 

[highSpeed]

I don't know you and you don't know me, tough guy.

And who the fvck wants to give someone money?

so are you looking for snow white then? You know the chick who's just glad to have you around for you? You know that doesn't exist right? She likes you because you are good looking. She likes you because you're great in bed. She likes you for what you can do for her. It's all an exchange. It's just what do you have to exchange for her sex and looks? It's all transactional. I used to believe in love and forever type nonsense but I'm done with that. I realize relationships for what they are, transactional. Hopefully, in that sense, you get what you want. If she ends up getting what she wants, I suppose that's ok but only after you've gotten what you want.

 

[byers90]

so are you looking for snow white then? You know the chick who's just glad to have you around for you? You know that doesn't exist right? She likes you because you are good looking. She likes you because you're great in bed. She likes you for what you can do for her. It's all an exchange. It's just what do you have to exchange for her sex and looks? It's all transactional. I used to believe in love and forever type nonsense but I'm done with that. I realize relationships for what they are, transactional. Hopefully, in that sense, you get what you want. If she ends up getting what she wants, I suppose that's ok but only after you've gotten what you want.

It's not as if he's hopeless. There are plenty of people in my life who are married, and have an age difference of 5+ years. I'm sure you and just about everyone on this board knows of many people who fit this criteria.

The point is him finding a younger woman at 30 years of age is not an impossible task nor is it something that is considered all that unusual...but he has hangup over his age that in my opinion is plain retarded. I tell it as it is. I'm hoping he shows me up and proves me wrong.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

It's not as if he's hopeless. There are plenty of people in my life who are married, and have an age difference of 5+ years. I'm sure you and just about everyone on this board knows of many people who fit this criteria.

The point is him finding a younger woman at 30 years of age is not an impossible task nor is it something that is considered all that unusual...but he has hangup over his age that in my opinion is plain retarded. I tell it as it is. I'm hoping he shows me up and proves me wrong.

I said without money it's impossible. I really don't want to give anyone money. It's not worth it to me at this point.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

so are you looking for snow white then? You know the chick who's just glad to have you around for you? You know that doesn't exist right? She likes you because you are good looking. She likes you because you're great in bed. She likes you for what you can do for her. It's all an exchange. It's just what do you have to exchange for her sex and looks? It's all transactional. I used to believe in love and forever type nonsense but I'm done with that. I realize relationships for what they are, transactional. Hopefully, in that sense, you get what you want. If she ends up getting what she wants, I suppose that's ok but only after you've gotten what you want.

I don't want to give anyone anything.

I would get bored of the hottest girl in the world after a short time. And if she has any kind of bad or pretentious attitude, forget it.

 

[zekko]

But at some point, won't she say... "Cool stuff. Can I have some?"
You might as well be broke if you're not gonna give any to her.

I've never had a woman ask me for money. I have given nice presents on occasion for Christmas and birthdays though, if the girl was an LTR.
But I've also received some extravagant gifts.

Another use for money I didn't mention: They talk about having hobbies a lot here, and hobbies are generally expensive. Being successful financially allows you to pursue your passion more deeply, or to pursue multiple hobbies that interest you.

I'm 33 and have no problems f*cking 22 year olds.
@bigneil is in his 40's and has no problems f*cking 22 year olds.

Neil's methods are kind of bizarre though, and unique to him. I've always said guys in their 30s and 40s should have no trouble getting younger women.

At some point though, it becomes obvious that the girl can't be interested in the guy physically (see Hugh Hefner, for example). I'm just not sure exactly at what age that occurs. I'm 57 now, and I've been out of the "game" for a long time now. I'm kind of curious as to whether or not at 57, could I bang a 22 year old? I tend to think that I could, but it would probably be harder now, and the pool of such women who might be receptive to me now is probably quite a bit smaller than it was 10 years ago. Any thoughts on this?

 

[Desdinova]

But if young girls already think I'm too old or not attractive enough, that situation is not going to improve.

They will probably go for guys their own age.

If a woman is telling you you're "too old" at age 30, then she's just using it as a convenient excuse to reject you.

I keep telling you that you need to work at your "inner game" in order to attract women. Money doesn't fix a crummy personality. You have to make your personality work for you. You need to get the fvck off online dating sites, quit paying for hookers, and force yourself to interact with women in person. You need to work at identifying what parts of your personality need improvement, and which parts you have working in your favour. You NEED to fix the parts that aren't working before you can successfully attract women of ANY age.

I'm 39. My GF is 24. She pursued me for two years starting at age 20, so don't give me that bull5hit that being 30 is too old.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

If a woman is telling you you're "too old" at age 30, then she's just using it as a convenient excuse to reject you.

I keep telling you that you need to work at your "inner game" in order to attract women. Money doesn't fix a crummy personality. You have to make your personality work for you. You need to get the fvck off online dating sites, quit paying for hookers, and force yourself to interact with women in person. You need to work at identifying what parts of your personality need improvement, and which parts you have working in your favour. You NEED to fix the parts that aren't working before you can successfully attract women of ANY age.

I'm 39. My GF is 24. She pursued me for two years starting at age 20, so don't give me that bull5hit that being 30 is too old.

What about the fact that they're a bunch of stupid wh0res?

Also, is your gf hot? Because if she's not, then none of it matters.

 

[Desdinova]

What about the fact that they're a bunch of stupid wh0res?

Also, is your gf hot? Because if she's not, then none of it matters.

Calling women "Stupid Wh0res" isn't going to get you laid. Also, there are many women I wouldn't classify as "Stupid Wh0res".

Do yourself and everyone here a favor and post some field and lay reports before you start labeling all women as "Stupid Wh0res"

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Calling women "Stupid Wh0res" isn't going to get you laid. Also, there are many women I wouldn't classify as "Stupid Wh0res".

Do yourself and everyone here a favor and post some field and lay reports before you start labeling all women as "Stupid Wh0res"

I have.

They lip synch words to hip-hop songs.

And it's pretty obvious that they're stupid.

So is your gf hot or no?

 

[Desdinova]

What about the fact that they're a bunch of stupid wh0res?

Also, is your gf hot? Because if she's not, then none of it matters.

My GF's appearance isn't relevant to you because you're not the one fvcking her. You're not fvcking ANYBODY unless you're paying for it.

Quit worrying about the credibility of the other members of this forum and focus on your own. If you can seduce a woman, ugly, pretty, short or tall without paying for her, then you'll be able to carry some form of credibility that will validate what YOU'RE doing. Who or what I'm fvcking will tell you nothing because you're the one who's avoiding putting in the effort, and chooses to make up bull5hit theories as to why you're not getting laid by ANYONE.

The tools to get laid are on this forum, and they work. Get the fvck off the computer, go out into the real world, and USE those tools.

 

[Urbanyst]

Neil's methods are kind of bizarre though, and unique to him. I've always said guys in their 30s and 40s should have no trouble getting younger women.

At some point though, it becomes obvious that the girl can't be interested in the guy physically (see Hugh Hefner, for example). I'm just not sure exactly at what age that occurs. I'm 57 now, and I've been out of the "game" for a long time now. I'm kind of curious as to whether or not at 57, could I bang a 22 year old? I tend to think that I could, but it would probably be harder now, and the pool of such women who might be receptive to me now is probably quite a bit smaller than it was 10 years ago. Any thoughts on this?

My thoughts are women are generally comfortable with around a 10 year age difference (you being older). After that.. you need to have more and more unique VALUE for them to consider you.

 

[AJ84]

My thoughts are women are generally comfortable with around a 10 year age difference (you being older). After that.. you need to have more and more unique VALUE for them to consider you.

Yeah, anytime my girlfriends and I talked about age limits a ten year age difference was a popular number with a few exceptions. I think when it gets to 20 plus yrs difference there's other incentives like money. Old rich man young wife kind of thing, and now also old rich woman young husband thing. But most of these men and women aren't dumb and they know it's not true love or affection. They don't care and their spouses will play along as long as they keep that wallet open. its a status ego thing for both.

 

[Urbanyst]

Yeah, anytime my girlfriends and I talked about age limits a ten year age difference was a popular number with a few exceptions. I think when it gets to 20 plus yrs difference there's other incentives like money. Old rich man young wife kind of thing, and now also old rich woman young husband thing. But most of these men and women aren't dumb and they know it's not true love or affection. They don't care and their spouses will play along as long as they keep that wallet open. its a status ego thing for both.

If you're being totally HONEST most relationships are not about "true love or affection". Most people couple up for social, family and status reasons or because they fear dying alone.

The guys who chase YOUNG tail and the women who chase MONEY are just being more upfront and not hiding their motivations behind a bunch of bullsh*t like most other people.

This is why so many people can't stand to see the Sugar Daddy / Sugar baby relationship. Its too honest for them and it calls out how shallow most people are at the end of the day while desperately trying to hide it lol.

 

[RedScorpion]

Yeah, anytime my girlfriends and I talked about age limits a ten year age difference was a popular number with a few exceptions. I think when it gets to 20 plus yrs difference there's other incentives like money. Old rich man young wife kind of thing, and now also old rich woman young husband thing. But most of these men and women aren't dumb and they know it's not true love or affection. They don't care and their spouses will play along as long as they keep that wallet open. its a status ego thing for both.

I know a guy who is about 29 now. Been in a relationship with an older woman (I think now 50~) for I think... 5 years now? Even living together for quite some time. Sometimes they get along great, but it always seemed to me to be surrounded by misgivings, or arguments, or something. I think partly it was due to personality - but mostly due to age gap. I think there's various worries and resentments that build up as well (paranoid about the younger seeking someone else, or resentment for being held back from having children, or not being from similar generation, dissimilar thought process).

I agree that about 10 years max is pretty reasonable for a real relationship. Flirtations and flings, sure. Could go above that number if there some really great compatibilities between them - but yeah.