Do you think involuntary celibacy is the root cause behind all the recent mass-killings?

[MatureDJ]

I was reading this article about how the perps in the recent mass-killings have become alienated because of the collapse of the social & economic prowess of the American white male, and one of the comments got me thinking:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/am...-men-who-become-mass-killers/?comments=disqus

Grant Henderson • a day ago

A big issue here that people underestimate is sex. There is an online community, that has produced multiple mass shooters, of the "involuntarily celibate." Ive met one. They claim that prior to the sexual revolution, reproductive assets (women) were distributed equally. Every guy got a girl to impregnate. Now that women have more choice in sexual partners, "the alphas get all the girls and there are none left for betas." These are the most honest of the angry white guy crowd.

I tend to agree that the ultimate genesis of this behavior, for the most part, is that these men are just not getting regularly services by a canonical wife/girlfriend who is decently attractive. Sure, it was right out there for George Soldini & Elliot Rodger, but it seems to be there as well for all the other killers.

 

[AJ84]

I was reading this article about how the perps in the recent mass-killings have become alienated because of the collapse of the social & economic prowess of the American white male, and one of the comments got me thinking:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/am...-men-who-become-mass-killers/?comments=disqus


I tend to agree that the ultimate genesis of this behavior, for the most part, is that these men are just not getting regularly services by a canonical wife/girlfriend who is decently attractive. Sure, it was right out there for George Soldini & Elliot Rodger, but it seems to be there as well for all the other killers.

It's that kind of thinking that actually contributes to hard core feminists thinking and spreading the view that men are uncontrollable animals. Society is already dealing with a sexually based witch hunt against men, let's not add to this by implying that without sex, men become murderous.

I think men are more complex and human than that.

 

[Von]

The guy who murdered a whole village in Texas... had a girlfriend... he also smashed her new born baby brain to the point a baby had to get brain surgery... he was also internalized in a military hospital for extreme violence.

Than he bought an assault rifle at Wal-Mart (he could its in his rights and the MP never send the criminal records to the police)... entered his inlaws church and shooted everyone until 2 cowboys shoot and car chased him until he killed himself.

The guy who shoot in Las Vegas... he had a filipina girlfriend.

The mass shootings are caused by 3 things
1) Mental Illness
2) Desperation
3) Easy gun access in a weapon culture (US culture)

There's a reaons USA has a weekly mass shooting compared to the every 10-15-25-30 years in other countries... these 3 reasons above.

Crazy people going for mass murder have the same patterns as terrorist... they are crazy, covert and they shoot FIRST.

If they were single... it's actually a blessing to all the women out there.

Notice what the message you quote says : '' "the alphas get all the girls and there are none left for betas." .... It's Pure Jealousy Gone Wild and Violent..

The ''angry white male'' is purely economical and political in nature... it's ''white rural america'' saying to the urban areas ''we exist and we want our share of the economy''.... Sure the economy might make them lose ''boys and girls'' because these seeks better economic opportunities.

Sure... you might say ''well why would a girl date a blue collar and manual labourer at minimun wage when she can go in the city and bang the under-paid lawyer (sure lawyers can make alot but they usually under-paid in early years but that's not the issue lol)

Dear white angry white male... these urban professionnals have the same dating issues as you but there are not only white. They are all kind of colours: yellow,red,black etc... and the girls all jump one way or the other but they do find themselves in the city one day cause jobs are there... hope of the $$ and better life..

The article was BS and it's actually jealousy for the ''dating part'' .... and the angry white part is just about economic options dissappearing towards the city and being angry about it.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Interesting point but I wouldnt talk about lack of sex but more lack of validation and respect, or perceived lack of those.

Even social networks and tv shows increase the problem, someone like elliot roger living a rural town in the 80s wouldnt be driven mad so easily for the simple fact that he wouldnt have had considered the idea of hot teenage blondes giving head to athlets in the school toilet.

They basically create goals hard to achieve for almost everyone plus they make sure to remind everyone that they lack the means to achieve those goals, its like a social experiment to make people insane.

Female hypergamy is just a side of a bigger problem within our societies.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Saying that the US has too many guns is like saying the sky is blue. Yes, but wtf can you do about it? The vast majority of gun owners here believe that it is their God-given right. They are not going to surrender their weapons regardless of any law that passes. And even if you could wave a magic wand and make all the guns disappear, a gun is an idea. Every small town has a machine shop perfectly capable of being a gun factory. Pioneers were making their own bullets. It's not that hard. These things are ideas. You can try to control the material thing that is a gun, but you can never get rid of the idea. That's why gun control is never going to work in the US. If people want guns badly enough, they are going to have them.

 

[wifehunter]

The root cause, is pure evil.

Duh

we all know that

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

I was reading this article about how the perps in the recent mass-killings have become alienated because of the collapse of the social & economic prowess of the American white male, and one of the comments got me thinking:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/am...-men-who-become-mass-killers/?comments=disqus


I tend to agree that the ultimate genesis of this behavior, for the most part, is that these men are just not getting regularly services by a canonical wife/girlfriend who is decently attractive. Sure, it was right out there for George Soldini & Elliot Rodger, but it seems to be there as well for all the other killers.

Our culture is the odd one out. Previous cultures saw something inherently savage in human nature that was capable at any time of erupting into violence. They sought to either repress or sublimate the natural instincts within us that can only too easily become anti-social and vicious. The briefest view of history bears out this view of human nature. Indeed, if anyone were completely honest, they would see the same mass of potentially chaotic instincts within themselves. Civility between people comes from first having constraint over ourselves.

And the poor deluded politicians and economists think civilization arises from everyone blindly pursuing their own needs. They are impoverished because they do not see the necessity of a public sphere, which is to promote culture and morality.... and the Good Life for all.

 

[AJ84]

its a reality.

men produce 7 times more testosterone than women. the hormone thats responsible for our sex drive. levels are much higher in men under 30.

ever heard that saying that men are thinking about sex every few minutes or so? its not an exaggeration

most us just channel that energy in different ways or then we really all would be murderous animals. (think 72 virgins)

something that women will never experience and therfore can never understand

as far as im cocnerned, we should be getting medals for outstanding behavior

Men are not sex obsessed animals who need to channel their sexual impulses so they don't kill people. This is what militant feminists want us to believe. I'm surprised this is coming from a male. I would think that you would want to attract women not scare them away.

The whole campus 'rape culture', male students needing to take classes on what consent means, the whole me too campaign is based in large part on the view that you are endorsring.

 

[wifehunter]

Its beyond that. Its thought. Thinking. Believing thought then acting.
Whether its 2 men disagreeing opinions into fist fighting or a radical muslim flying a plane into a building because he believes he has the right to kill because you dont THINK his way.
We ate talking about a VOLUME knob.
Is it set on 2 or 10??
Same mechanism here.

Uhhh...same thing as evil.

Thoughts can be evil. It's were it all starts.

 

[corrector]

I was reading this article about how the perps in the recent mass-killings have become alienated because of the collapse of the social & economic prowess of the American white male, and one of the comments got me thinking:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/am...-men-who-become-mass-killers/?comments=disqus


I tend to agree that the ultimate genesis of this behavior, for the most part, is that these men are just not getting regularly services by a canonical wife/girlfriend who is decently attractive. Sure, it was right out there for George Soldini & Elliot Rodger, but it seems to be there as well for all the other killers.

It is disgusting how people are always humanizing and looking for excuses for mass shootings from white men. Now, it's "involuntary celibacy". Are you kidding me? There are involuntary celibacy in ALL races. A white male has more choices when it comes to women then men of other races. They probably can just get an Asian girlfriend or travel and live somewhere else if they can't get any at home. The only difference here is he just had more guns and felt disrespected. He used his white-privilege (i.e. if he wasn't white he wouldn't own that many guns without being in jail) to shoot up a church.

However, if it's not a white man then it's a terrorist or it's a thug. Police are quick to lock black and brown people up for nonsense but give whites a free-pass. Well, there you go with the free-pass. White people are not safe anymore from retarded policies that attack other visible minorities. Your government doesn't really show that it really cares about you by demonizing other people and attacking them or risking WW3 with North Korea and then saying "mental illness" and own as many guns as you want with whites. Who really wins with that?

It's funny how people take their white-privilege and just throw it down the toilet with incidents like this.

 

[wifehunter]

I know but the vast majority of the population dont realize this. They say they do but the focus of society is to treat effects rather then the cause. Bandaid after bandaid

society IS evil... and they wonder why bad sh1t happens.

 

[AJ84]

its a reality.

men produce 7 times more testosterone than women. the hormone thats responsible for our sex drive. levels are much higher in men under 30.

ever heard that saying that men are thinking about sex every few minutes or so? its not an exaggeration

most us just channel that energy in different ways or then we really all would be murderous animals. (think 72 virgins)

something that women will never experience and therfore can never understand

as far as im cocnerned, we should be getting medals for outstanding behavior

Men are not sex obsessed animals who need to channel their sexual impulses so they don't kill people. This is what militant feminists want us to believe. I'm surprised this is coming from a male. I would think that you would want to attract women not scare them away.

its not just militant feminists that choose to believe this. and its not so much that all women believe we are sex obsessed, violent animals.

its that women choose to deny and reject a primary male experience (whether its taken to the extreme like the above example) because women are incapable of understanding our experience as we are of theirs.

as much as you'd like for our genders experience to be equal or think they should be, they simply are not and they cannot be force-fitted

did you know that the effects of testosterone affect a male babys behavior starting from the fetal stage in the womb?
did you know that women who take steroids report an increase in sexual libido, the likes of which theyve never experienced?

it is very much a reality that as men, our lives revolve around being able to control that energy. whether its through social conditioning, or our own personal moral codes or convictions. it has the potential to be constructive as it can be destructive.

the female experience is not the universal experience. this is something difficult for most women to come to terms with. even "red pill women"

so while its true that men are not sex crazed destroyers out to kill people and prey on women, that potential is something we all have to live with in the background

I know that there is a positive correlation between sex drive and testosterone hence testosterone pills for low sex drive. No, I don't know what it is like from a male perspective but what you are saying, or at least what I am interpreting you to say, is that men have to make an effort to control themselves or use this energy in a constructive way?

I never implied that the female experience is the universal experience nor am I saying gender experiences should be equal. It's clear they are not in many aspects.

What do you mean that women deny and reject a primary male experience? In what way?

 

[Red Legg]

society IS evil... and they wonder why bad sh1t happens.

The heart is deceitful above all things,and desperately wicked: who can know it ? Jeremiah 17:9

 

[wifehunter]

The heart is deceitful above all things,and desperately wicked: who can know it ? Jeremiah 17:9

 

[ubercat]

Hmm I'm voting mental illness and social alienation before lack of pvssy. I consciously had 6 months off women in 2015. I still compete vigorously in business and sports so I assume my T is ok. And I don't remember having any murderous thoughts at that time.

 

[Tenacity]

I was reading this article about how the perps in the recent mass-killings have become alienated because of the collapse of the social & economic prowess of the American white male, and one of the comments got me thinking:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/am...-men-who-become-mass-killers/?comments=disqus


I tend to agree that the ultimate genesis of this behavior, for the most part, is that these men are just not getting regularly services by a canonical wife/girlfriend who is decently attractive. Sure, it was right out there for George Soldini & Elliot Rodger, but it seems to be there as well for all the other killers.

Guys......once again.......Elliot Rodgers had a mental illness. Okay? He didn't do all of the shyt he did because he couldn't get ANY a.ss whatsoever. That's bullshyt. He had money, if anything, he could have bought a piece of a.ss

I don't think these mass shootings are a result of dudes not being able to get pvssy. The notion that American women only fvck "alphas" is another load of bullshyt.

American women fvck broke men, beta men, gay men, bisexual men, tall men, short men, big dyck men, little dyck men, alpha men, omega men, men who wear skinny jeans, etc., etc., etc. American women FVCK anybody. Who the hell started this B.S. about only "one type of guy" getting American women pvssy, like American women are that selective with who they give their pvssy to?

These mass shootings have more to do with the fvcked up economic systems at play today, along with un-diagnosed mental disorders that we roast, joke, and laugh at dudes for having.....instead of getting the dude some help. When we see a guy clearly having a breakdown, we laugh at him. It's "funny" to us. It's "funny" right up until he grabs that gun and starts lighting your a.ss up like the 4th of July. Yeah, so keep laughing.

 

[Macaframalama]

It is disgusting how people are always humanizing and looking for excuses for mass shootings from white men. Now, it's "involuntary celibacy". Are you kidding me? There are involuntary celibacy in ALL races. A white male has more choices when it comes to women then men of other races. They probably can just get an Asian girlfriend or travel and live somewhere else if they can't get any at home. The only difference here is he just had more guns and felt disrespected. He used his white-privilege (i.e. if he wasn't white he wouldn't own that many guns without being in jail) to shoot up a church.

However, if it's not a white man then it's a terrorist or it's a thug. Police are quick to lock black and brown people up for nonsense but give whites a free-pass. Well, there you go with the free-pass. White people are not safe anymore from retarded policies that attack other visible minorities. Your government doesn't really show that it really cares about you by demonizing other people and attacking them or risking WW3 with North Korea and then saying "mental illness" and own as many guns as you want with whites. Who really wins with that?

It's funny how people take their white-privilege and just throw it down the toilet with incidents like this.

Cue the world's smallest violin.

 

[Macaframalama]

Respectfully disagree, though I do believe that technology is bringing out the best and worst of humanity.

There are plenty of undersexed men in the world but the vast majority of mass murderers reside right here in the USA, home of insane antiquated gun laws. The 2nd Amendment was legislated before bullets were even invented. NO WAY would the 2nd Amendment be enacted today, assuming Congress even had the gall to propose it.

Note that Australia outlawed assault weapons years ago and ever since it hasn't had a single mass murderer via gun violence.

In my opinion it boils down to accountability. The responsibility needs to be on the gun mfr's and distributors. Every time one of their death machines are used in a mass murder the mfr's and disty's need to be fined and punished severely.

In my eyes the man/company that sells semi- and automatic assault weapons are just as guilty as the murderer. Those who aid/comfort/provide for murderers should imprisoned/fined/executed.

Just seems insane to me that co-signers are required for loans but not on gun purchases. Ridiculous violent culture we have. In the USA money trumps soul every time.

I cannot even come up with a proper response for this level of stupid. Please do not procreate.

 

[corrector]

Hmm I'm voting mental illness and social alienation before lack of pvssy. I consciously had 6 months off women in 2015. I still compete vigorously in business and sports so I assume my T is ok. And I don't remember having any murderous thoughts at that time.

6 months is a joke and you made a conscious choice. Doesn't count as a mention.