What I've learned about race and game from hanging out with guys of different races.

[Good Gao]

I have had friends of different races and subcultures, while biases MIGHT exist, there is something to be said when I have gamed with alpha white guys and just most white guys in general compared to men of other races. There is countless amounts of race whining on this forum that I wanted to share a different perspective about ONE of the reasons why white guys do better in the western world than their non-white competition.

The main thing I've seen set alpha white guys apart is this "world is my playground" mentality they carry to everything, including women.

White guy gets rejected by hot girl? She's a sl-t with STDs, wasn't even worth the challenge.

Asian or Indian guy gets rejected by hot girl? She hates my race, my race sucks, society is unfair, life is unfair, and a lecture on racism.

While a lot can be said of society and its biases, without a doubt, this plays a role when it comes to getting women. While some call it petty, it shows an almost narcissistic ego that is mandatory for doing well with hot girls in the western world. It shows an almost irrational sense of self-confidence that defies logic.

And as bad as it sounds, women like it because it shows strength.

It shows to her that the guy is not going to take the rejection seriously, that he can move on without an issue, and that it hardly impacts him all that much. While a white guy will just think there is something wrong with the girl, the Asian/Indian guy will think there is something wrong with his race and his race is at fault.

And I've noticed how white guys are almost free from the victim's mentality that plagues so much minorities.

Women do not like men that are weak and act as victims, they just don't.

When things go out of control and society collapses, she does not want to be with the guy who is spineless and crying about his race in all of it, she wants a guy who is more secure.

The problem is, I would say that more than half of all minorities (much more so for Asian and Indian men) have a victim's mentality towards game. Putting themselves out there only makes it worse, and I mean much much worse. The guy gets rejected, thinks its because of his race, and starts to hate his race even more. If he has friends of only his own race? It becomes impossible to break this cycle of self-pity.

White guys don't suffer from this and it comes across in their interactions.

Women reject them? She's missing out and a loser.

Someone mistreats them? Must put them in their place!

This is my playground, no one treats me as inferior to them.

I am entitled to success, hot women, and if I am not getting them then there is clearly something wrong.

Now this isn't absolute, there are many exceptions.

I have met white guys who acted more like dorky Asian guys, these guys didn't have much luck with white women and often had to go for uglier Asian women. On the flip side, I've also met Indian and Asian men who had the mentality of a trust fund baby, these guys cleaned up, even with hot blondes that many say don't go for Asian and Indian men.

It was even mind boggling for me to see.

I was surprised by how alpha white guys that got a lot of hot girls dealt with rejection and tough stretches in the dating game compared to most Asian guys I hung out with. While Asian guys retreated into their shell and beat themselves up, most alpha white guys simply shrugged it off and played it as unimportant.

What's strange is even when you called them out on their bluff, they continued with it and made you believe you were crazy.

For me, hanging out with douchey white guys has done wonders for my game compared to hanging out with Asian men, it makes sense of why one group does a lot better than others.

 

[Tenacity]

I have had friends of different races and subcultures, while biases MIGHT exist, there is something to be said when I have gamed with alpha white guys and just most white guys in general compared to men of other races. There is countless amounts of race whining on this forum that I wanted to share a different perspective about ONE of the reasons why white guys do better in the western world than their non-white competition.

The main thing I've seen set alpha white guys apart is this "world is my playground" mentality they carry to everything, including women.

White guy gets rejected by hot girl? She's a sl-t with STDs, wasn't even worth the challenge.

Asian or Indian guy gets rejected by hot girl? She hates my race, my race sucks, society is unfair, life is unfair, and a lecture on racism.

While a lot can be said of society and its biases, without a doubt, this plays a role when it comes to getting women. While some call it petty, it shows an almost narcissistic ego that is mandatory for doing well with hot girls in the western world. It shows an almost irrational sense of self-confidence that defies logic.

And as bad as it sounds, women like it because it shows strength.

It shows to her that the guy is not going to take the rejection seriously, that he can move on without an issue, and that it hardly impacts him all that much. While a white guy will just think there is something wrong with the girl, the Asian/Indian guy will think there is something wrong with his race and his race is at fault.

And I've noticed how white guys are almost free from the victim's mentality that plagues so much minorities.

Women do not like men that are weak and act as victims, they just don't.

When things go out of control and society collapses, she does not want to be with the guy who is spineless and crying about his race in all of it, she wants a guy who is more secure.

The problem is, I would say that more than half of all minorities (much more so for Asian and Indian men) have a victim's mentality towards game. Putting themselves out there only makes it worse, and I mean much much worse. The guy gets rejected, thinks its because of his race, and starts to hate his race even more. If he has friends of only his own race? It becomes impossible to break this cycle of self-pity.

White guys don't suffer from this and it comes across in their interactions.

Women reject them? She's missing out and a loser.

Someone mistreats them? Must put them in their place!

This is my playground, no one treats me as inferior to them.

I am entitled to success, hot women, and if I am not getting them then there is clearly something wrong.

Now this isn't absolute, there are many exceptions.

I have met white guys who acted more like dorky Asian guys, these guys didn't have much luck with white women and often had to go for uglier Asian women. On the flip side, I've also met Indian and Asian men who had the mentality of a trust fund baby, these guys cleaned up, even with hot blondes that many say don't go for Asian and Indian men.

It was even mind boggling for me to see.

I was surprised by how alpha white guys that got a lot of hot girls dealt with rejection and tough stretches in the dating game compared to most Asian guys I hung out with. While Asian guys retreated into their shell and beat themselves up, most alpha white guys simply shrugged it off and played it as unimportant.

What's strange is even when you called them out on their bluff, they continued with it and made you believe you were crazy.

For me, hanging out with douchey white guys has done wonders for my game compared to hanging out with Asian men, it makes sense of why one group does a lot better than others.

It just completely depends dude. I see white guys complaining a lot these days, about how Affirmative Action is stealing their jobs, how immigrants are stealing their jobs, and how N-words like Tenacity only got to where he's at because of Affirmative Action and not because Tenacity busted his a.ss lol.

The reality is that everybody has STRUGGLES and CHALLENGES in this life. Your objective is to take your talents, gifts, and strengths, and leverage them the best way you can using your three main resources of time, energy, and working capital. If you do that, you will be ahead of the majority. Understand that the majority of Americans (no matter their race) are:

- Overweight

- Living paycheck to paycheck

- Stuck in relationships they don't like

- Stuck in jobs/careers they don't like

- In debt up to their a.ss

If you simply worked out, managed your finances, and choose careers that aligned with your talents/passions, you are already ahead of MAJORITY of Americans no matter what race or color you are. Same thing with women. Fix your looks, personality, and finances, and you are already well ahead of the MAJORITY of guys on the market who have not made such investments in themselves.

 

[AJ84]

Cultural differences should also be considered when comparing white guys to other guys when it comes to hitting on women.

Western white men are come from a culture where it's the norm to randomly approach women in public places, being direct, having a more natural interaction than a guy from a culture where men don't approach women in that context. So they may approach much less and suck more at it, which contributes to being rejected and/ or not dating many girls, esp white western girls.

In Toronto second gen guys from most cultures approach women much the same way their white Canadian peers do. They are westernized. Here you see a lot of mixed race couples but the majority is still white on white, Asian on Asian etc. It is changing a though. If there are any second gen guys here from Montreal/Vancouver/Toronto or major US cities who are not white it would be interesting to get your perspective on this topic.

 

[Von]

Cultural differences should also be considered when comparing white guys to other guys when it comes to hitting on women.

Western white men are come from a culture where it's the norm to randomly approach women in public places, being direct, having a more natural interaction than a guy from a culture where men don't approach women in that context. So they may approach much less and suck more at it, which contributes to being rejected and/ or not dating many girls, esp white western girls.

In Toronto second gen guys from most cultures approach women much the same way their white Canadian peers do. They are westernized. Here you see a lot of mixed race couples but the majority is still white on white, Asian on Asian etc. It is changing a though. If there are any second gen guys here from Montreal/Vancouver/Toronto or major US cities who are not white it would be interesting to get your perspective on this topic.

Agreed

In French Canada the assimilitation is faster in term of ''mix'' dating and approach.

However, as a white guy... I feel ''race or ethnicity or religion'' is a pretty weak argument for the short falls in dating. Like Good Gao said: Just move on the next lol.

People who understand that win... and surprisingly they win with girls of ALL ETHNICITY or ''RACE''

The people complaining about ''oh they didnt get the girl cause of X, Y, Z is just a total lack of confidence''

Hey alot of white guys complain... just look here lol

 

[El Payaso]

Who told you white guys don't complain about their skin color?

You need to visit some other red pill sites. May I suggest Return of Kings.

 

[fastlife]

A bunch of different factors. While I have friends of every different race that are good with game/bad with game, if I had to pick a demographic that consistently kills it, it would have to be assimilated Latin dudes w/ 1st generation parents. If I had to guess why, I'd attribute it to a stronger family unit with more clearly defined gender roles, a greater amount of social openness in their culture, etc.

Obviously, a victim-mentality will always be a handicap. But as a white guy who hangs out with a ton of different white guys, I think the whole idea that there is some white-privilege when it comes to going out and meeting girls is laughable. Very few guys are able/willing to approach women--fewer are able to do it effectively--if you can do that while offering a fun, carefree vibe (which can, to a degree be influenced by cultural upbringing), then you'll have too many options to worry about what life would be like if your skin was a different color or you made x more dollars a year or if you were 6 inches taller.

 

[youngprodigy]

I agree that a lot of people blame their race when they get rejected. But if you're high status and are physically attractive then your race doesn't matter to girls. An above attractive brown guy with an idgaf attitude can be top 10% of males easily

 

[Good Gao]

Agreed

In French Canada the assimilitation is faster in term of ''mix'' dating and approach.

However, as a white guy... I feel ''race or ethnicity or religion'' is a pretty weak argument for the short falls in dating. Like Good Gao said: Just move on the next lol.

People who understand that win... and surprisingly they win with girls of ALL ETHNICITY or ''RACE''

The people complaining about ''oh they didnt get the girl cause of X, Y, Z is just a total lack of confidence''

Hey alot of white guys complain... just look here lol

For some reason, I notice that Asian and Indian men do a lot better in French Canada than they do in dumps like Toronto and Vancouver, but then again, Toronto and Vancouver are loaded with busted up ugly white women and finding attractive white women in those cities is like finding a unicorn.

 

[Von]

For some reason, I notice that Asian and Indian men do a lot better in French Canada than they do in dumps like Toronto and Vancouver, but then again, Toronto and Vancouver are loaded with busted up ugly white women and finding attractive white women in those cities is like finding a unicorn.

Likely cause these ''indians and asian'' were raised in a French culture and interculturalism... like they consider themselves more ''quebecois or canadian'' than the English Rest of Canada aka English Quebec ''I am ''arab'' before being canadian yet i've never been in arab countries'' people.

French Canada is known for its women ... People who come from Europe says we have the most beautiful and strong women... they are quite in control of their feminity, know what they want and have great looks

 

[Sho-No-Luv]

This is kinda off-topic but..

Here's my personal opinion, people should have the right to not date others races if they choose not to do so. It does NOT automatically make them a bad person.

For instance, there's nothing wrong(in my book) for a white women to say that she doesn't date black men. Or vice versa..

I think if more minorities accepted this as just a personal preference they'd do alot better(as it takes the sting off) when trying to assimilate!

 

[youngprodigy]

For some reason, I notice that Asian and Indian men do a lot better in French Canada than they do in dumps like Toronto and Vancouver, but then again, Toronto and Vancouver are loaded with busted up ugly white women and finding attractive white women in those cities is like finding a unicorn.

White girls in toronto are pretty receptive tho. A couple of white girls I've talked to over the years tell me its "boring" dating only white guys. This isn't just about white girls tho. I think in the modern day a lot of people explore outside of their own ethnicity's, well atleast for the younger generations

 

[Trainwreck]

Who told you white guys don't complain about their skin color?

You need to visit some other red pill sites. May I suggest Return of Kings.

That site is garbage.

 

[Trainwreck]

white women that date black men in my neck of the woods usually get stigmatized by other white people. I was talking to this one girl the other day and she said she briefly dated a black man for a month and now she is pretty much called a nword lover by people in her town.

 

[Urbanyst]

white women that date black men in my neck of the woods usually get stigmatized by other white people. I was talking to this one girl the other day and she said she briefly dated a black man for a month and now she is pretty much called a nword lover by people in her town.

Yep.. social VALUE punishment is another tool American culture uses to keep WHITE women from dating minority men.

Basically.. LOSER men of every race like to attack women of their own race for dating others. Especially if these women are attractive lol.

 

[PokerStar]

I've got the slanted eye. I've dated, black, middle eastern, indian, and white girls. not into asian chicks, they remind me of family way to much. and to be honest....confidence is your skin color.

 

[claudolfgeorgini]

I'm a white guy in NYC and have dated a lot of Hispanic women. The few times I have met their family members I would always get complimented on my skin and blue eyes. I can get minority girls with ease. It's a bit harder for me to get white chicks though.

 

[highSpeed]

I have had friends of different races and subcultures, while biases MIGHT exist, there is something to be said when I have gamed with alpha white guys and just most white guys in general compared to men of other races. There is countless amounts of race whining on this forum that I wanted to share a different perspective about ONE of the reasons why white guys do better in the western world than their non-white competition.

The main thing I've seen set alpha white guys apart is this "world is my playground" mentality they carry to everything, including women.

White guy gets rejected by hot girl? She's a sl-t with STDs, wasn't even worth the challenge.

Asian or Indian guy gets rejected by hot girl? She hates my race, my race sucks, society is unfair, life is unfair, and a lecture on racism.

While a lot can be said of society and its biases, without a doubt, this plays a role when it comes to getting women. While some call it petty, it shows an almost narcissistic ego that is mandatory for doing well with hot girls in the western world. It shows an almost irrational sense of self-confidence that defies logic.

And as bad as it sounds, women like it because it shows strength.

It shows to her that the guy is not going to take the rejection seriously, that he can move on without an issue, and that it hardly impacts him all that much. While a white guy will just think there is something wrong with the girl, the Asian/Indian guy will think there is something wrong with his race and his race is at fault.

And I've noticed how white guys are almost free from the victim's mentality that plagues so much minorities.

Women do not like men that are weak and act as victims, they just don't.

When things go out of control and society collapses, she does not want to be with the guy who is spineless and crying about his race in all of it, she wants a guy who is more secure.

The problem is, I would say that more than half of all minorities (much more so for Asian and Indian men) have a victim's mentality towards game. Putting themselves out there only makes it worse, and I mean much much worse. The guy gets rejected, thinks its because of his race, and starts to hate his race even more. If he has friends of only his own race? It becomes impossible to break this cycle of self-pity.

White guys don't suffer from this and it comes across in their interactions.

Women reject them? She's missing out and a loser.

Someone mistreats them? Must put them in their place!

This is my playground, no one treats me as inferior to them.

I am entitled to success, hot women, and if I am not getting them then there is clearly something wrong.

Now this isn't absolute, there are many exceptions.

I have met white guys who acted more like dorky Asian guys, these guys didn't have much luck with white women and often had to go for uglier Asian women. On the flip side, I've also met Indian and Asian men who had the mentality of a trust fund baby, these guys cleaned up, even with hot blondes that many say don't go for Asian and Indian men.

It was even mind boggling for me to see.

I was surprised by how alpha white guys that got a lot of hot girls dealt with rejection and tough stretches in the dating game compared to most Asian guys I hung out with. While Asian guys retreated into their shell and beat themselves up, most alpha white guys simply shrugged it off and played it as unimportant.

What's strange is even when you called them out on their bluff, they continued with it and made you believe you were crazy.

For me, hanging out with douchey white guys has done wonders for my game compared to hanging out with Asian men, it makes sense of why one group does a lot better than others.

so let me get this straight, white guys do better in a white majority country? You realize how insanely idiotic this missive rambling is right? so do I goto china and b*tch that chinese women don't prefer white men? do I goto africa and complain that african women don't prefer white men? Jesus, you people are idiotic. be happy you're here, do well and stop b*tching or go somewhere else.

 

[claudolfgeorgini]

so let me get this straight, white guys do better in a white majority country? You realize how insanely idiotic this missive rambling is right? so do I goto china and b*tch that chinese women don't prefer white men? do I goto africa and complain that african women don't prefer white men? Jesus, you people are idiotic. be happy you're here, do well and stop b*tching or go somewhere else.

Actually there are many non-white countries where white men are preferred over the men that live there.

 

[highSpeed]

Actually there are many non-white countries where white men are preferred over the men that live there.

really? where? do point out actual research.

 

[skinnyguy]

really? where? do point out actual research.

Just watch Tokyo Drift. He points out how all the Japanese girls in Tokyo want white guys. Even Stevie Wonder could see that white guys are at the top of the food chain in Asia.

I don't blame Asian women at all. White men are associated with being dominant and that goes back millenniums. If I were an Asian girl, I'd probably only go after white guys. You all have it too easy.