The plastic surgery thread

[RichardTheFrog]

Good man.

1) Leave your nose alone. The doc is right; it's masculine and looks good;

2) Don't worry about the forehead, just fix the hairline with FUT, 2500 follicles in the frontal 1/3 should be enough;

3) Don't worry too much about an underbite. Most people have underbite and correcting it will do very little for your overall facial aesthetics;

4) Looks like the doc was in full agreement with the cheek recommendation I gave you. Convinced, I'm the real deal yet? I'm quite leery about advising you to get the Radiesse until you meet a physician who actually knows what he is doing. Most PSs, believe it or not, do not know exactly where to place the cheek volume.

Here's a pic for demonstration:


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In the male facial aesthetic, the cheek bone begins at the mid-eye section and falls to the middle of the nostril with the bulk protruding at the upper portion between the two. The cheek must be narrow but angular, whereas you can see the bulge from frontal and side views. Bring this post and picture to the next physician. Use only the physician that agrees and understands this. Also ask the physician how many cheek injections he has done with other patients. Anything less than a few hundred injections means that physician is an amateur and you don't use him.

Now, the cheek enhancement if done right will add 2 points to your overall SMV. A lean muscle, dieted down, proportional physique will also add 2 more points to your overall SMV. Effect the cheeks and physique alone, and you will be in the 9 range. Don't ignore style/clothing, as poor style can detract from your overall SMV.

Okay that's cool.

You think I can be a 9 even at my height?

What are your opinions on the laser facial hair removal that I'm getting? I've already completed 5 out of 9 treatments so it might be too late to turn back. I could never grow a thick beard anyway, I don't think.

Any reasonably priced car suggestions? I had a Lexus in 2016 and it did not help me attract women.

Any work out tips? Particular muscles I should focus on?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tprwdd3978586ty/1020170242a.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pxyt03j4vvf6zix/1020170242b.jpg?dl=0

Btw, do you know what I went to prison for? That's a whole 'nother can of worms.

 

[rivernorth]

I've been looking at Real Self for hair transplant in Tijuana, Mexico. Could be risky, but much cheaper.

personally, I don't try to get a discount deal. quality, research, patience.... if you want international options, still keep those aspects in mind.

Rolexes... VIP with pro athletes... Lamborghinis... Spend that first couple hundred Gs just to get a girl who is going to spend the next couple hundred Gs you make?. Awesome..

so you don't want to hang out with tom brady at the kentucky derby? everyone looks amazing in those pictures... yes, these were extreme examples. I don't even consider a hermes bag stylish because animal abuse in fashion is vulgar, but I've heard it's a social magnet in certain crowds.

turning money into attraction is either how you look (physical/ fashion) or what you talk about (work/ hobbies/ vacations).... besides actual dating activities. many dates do like riding in a PJ (private jet)..... heh. seriously, you can apply it to your preferred social group. status symbol may not be a rolex but a full sleeve tattoo. it's your ideal.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

personally, I don't try to get a discount deal. quality, research, patience.... if you want international options, still keep those aspects in mind.



so you don't want to hang out with tom brady at the kentucky derby? everyone looks amazing in those pictures... yes, these were extreme examples. I don't even consider a hermes bag stylish because animal abuse in fashion is vulgar, but I've heard it's a social magnet in certain crowds.

turning money into attraction is either how you look (physical/ fashion) or what you talk about (work/ hobbies/ vacations).... besides actual dating activities. many dates do like riding in a PJ (private jet)..... heh. seriously, you can apply it to your preferred social group. status symbol may not be a rolex but a full sleeve tattoo. it's your ideal.

I think I would rather be a rich guy who doesn't display wealth at all.

Currently been wearing khaki shorts with paint stains on them. But that's not gonna impress anyone at the club.

But then again, I've never tried buying my way into places. I don't even know what those places are.

I don't think there are any special VIP clubs where I'm at and if there were, I doubt the girls would be any quality.

Last time I went down town, it's a bunch of average looking or ugly girls dressed up like they're the Queen of England. And apparently, I'm not a "competent enough" suitor for there stupid a$$es.

I wish I could reproduce by myself sometimes.

 

[Epicurus]

Anybody else here actually educationally(university level) versed in schizophrenia or BPD

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Let me begin by saying that I don't particularly disagree with any of the advice being offered in this thread. Some of it seems a little over the top to me, but that's irrelevant.

Any man with the income to do so can benefit from some minor procedures, most particularly if it can resolve some insecurities and boost his confidence if not his looks as dramatically. And while I'm not partial to sleeve tattoos, I'm certainly not the type to balk at owning a fine watch or keeping more prestigious company.

But you'll have to excuse my skepticism here.

You see, Frog isn't your average guy down on his luck who needs a few tips on how to improve with women.

Frog is a very special kind of fvcked up.

You're dealing with a borderline skitzo who did 4 years in prisons and psychiatric institutions on stalking charges. Now, keep in mind, this is not 4 years that resulted from poor public defender counsel on peeping tom accusations. Nearly half a decade of prison and psychiatric wards was the best an expensive, high profile attorney who swooped in to save frogs ass could do.

A few injections and a Rolex watch is like putting lipstick on a pig with this guy. He has bigger issues to contend with first, because these issues will permeate through any coverings being offered here.

Actually, my public defender once got me an offer of 2 years. I would have been better off with public defender.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Anybody else here actually educationally(university level) versed in schizophrenia or BPD

Anybody else here have life experience outside of a classroom?

Please don't preach your little boy degree bull$h1t.

I know more about this than you do.

How's that PUA business going, Mr. PhD?

 

[Epicurus]

Anybody else here have life experience outside of a classroom?

Please don't preach your little boy degree bull$h1t.

I know more about this than you do.

How's that PUA business going, Mr. PhD?

Instead of wasting your money on plastic surgery. Come down to Miami I’ll pull out the DSM and diagnose everything wrong with you for $35 an hour. I’m feeling generous

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Instead of wasting your money on plastic surgery. Come down to Miami I’ll pull out the DSM and diagnose everything wrong with you for $35 an hour. I’m feeling generous

Wow. You can read!

Generous = desperate for money

 

[guru1000]

Okay that's cool.

You think I can be a 9 even at my height?

I do.

What are your opinions on the laser facial hair removal that I'm getting? I've already completed 5 out of 9 treatments so it might be too late to turn back. I could never grow a thick beard anyway, I don't think.

Entirely pointless. But it's already done.

Any reasonably priced car suggestions? I had a Lexus in 2016 and it did not help me attract women.

I drive high-end, but does very little for attraction as far as I can see. Physicality and Social Acuity are the focus.

Any work out tips? Particular muscles I should focus on?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tprwdd3978586ty/1020170242a.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pxyt03j4vvf6zix/1020170242b.jpg?dl=0

Your physique needs a full overhaul. This will take some time. Start today.

Bodybuilding.com is an excellent resource for diet and exercise. But as you need to learn to become more social, I would encourage you to begin by joining a gym, hiring a personal trainer and nutritionist for at least six months until you know fully what you are doing, and surround yourself with people whom you can socialize with.

Btw, do you know what I went to prison for? That's a whole 'nother can of worms.

Not interested, as long as you learned something from the experience and bettered yourself from it.

 

[Von]

Actually, my public defender once got me an offer of 2 years. I would have been better off with public defender.

Better off with the public defender?

Did you just say that paying money for a high class attorney was a waste of money?

You just admitted money doesnt résolve all if the skills arent behind it

The same can be applied to yourself if you listen to advise and Apply them but you have to be ready to invest time and effort (and that goes for everyone here)

 

[SgtSplacker]

This is a weird thread but i'll put my two cents in. I have never seen a person that takes care of their body and looks bad. The more gym time you get in the more attractive you are to the opposite sex. Plastic surgery is for disfigured people.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I do.

Entirely pointless. But it's already done.
I drive high-end, but does very little for attraction as far as I can see. Physicality and Social Acuity are the focus.

Your physique needs a full overhaul. This will take some time. Start today.

Bodybuilding.com is an excellent resource for diet and exercise. But as you need to learn to become more social, I would encourage you to begin by joining a gym, hiring a personal trainer and nutritionist for at least six months until you know fully what you are doing, and surround yourself with people whom you can socialize with.
Not interested, as long as you learned something from the experience and bettered yourself from it.

What is your reason for suggesting FUT over FUE? The doctors told me it had the same results, just different methods of extraction.

The prison thing was on national television and people can easily see it by Googling my name. That's why it's still an issue in my mind.

 

[rivernorth]

I think I would rather be a rich guy who doesn't display wealth at all......

I don't think there are any special VIP clubs where I'm at and if there were, I doubt the girls would be any quality.

if you don't want to display wealth, then you would be outside that social circle. there are many other social circles: outdoors, music/artistic, academic, etc. with nightclubs, it's the VIP section..... and something to look into if you travel.

Let me begin by saying that I don't particularly disagree with any of the advice being offered in this thread..... He has bigger issues to contend with first, because these issues will permeate through any coverings being offered here.

thank you for your comment. improvement can be complex especially when dealing with bigger issues. cosmetic procedures can be low hanging fruit to gain confidence or they can be a distraction. it's not easy to overcome setbacks regardless of the path. although motivation to improve is valuable.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

if you don't want to display wealth, then you would be outside that social circle. there are many other social circles: outdoors, music/artistic, academic, etc. with nightclubs, it's the VIP section..... and something to look into if you travel.



thank you for your comment. improvement can be complex especially when dealing with bigger issues. cosmetic procedures can be low hanging fruit to gain confidence or they can be a distraction. it's not easy to overcome setbacks regardless of the path. although motivation to improve is valuable.

Tell me where to find ANY social circle, especially the "rich person" circle. Where are VIP clubs? I don't think they exist in my city. Most you would have to do is pay a $15 cover for something that is not worth a $15 cover.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Let me begin by saying that I don't particularly disagree with any of the advice being offered in this thread. Some of it seems a little over the top to me, but that's irrelevant.

Any man with the income to do so can benefit from some minor procedures, most particularly if it can resolve some insecurities and boost his confidence if not his looks as dramatically. And while I'm not partial to sleeve tattoos, I'm certainly not the type to balk at owning a fine watch or keeping more prestigious company.

But you'll have to excuse my skepticism here.

You see, Frog isn't your average guy down on his luck who needs a few tips on how to improve with women.

Frog is a very special kind of fvcked up.

You're dealing with a borderline skitzo who did 4 years in prisons and psychiatric institutions on stalking charges. Now, keep in mind, this is not 4 years that resulted from poor public defender counsel on peeping tom accusations. Nearly half a decade of prison and psychiatric wards was the best an expensive, high profile attorney who swooped in to save frogs ass could do.

A few injections and a Rolex watch is like putting lipstick on a pig with this guy. He has bigger issues to contend with first, because these issues will permeate through any coverings being offered here.

I agree that cosmetic procedures aren't a solution to everything. But I might as well try as many angles as I can.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I agree. If you really think this is something you think will help in some way, then why not. But you really should attack all angles and not just some of them.

I don't question for a second that better looks and more money will certainly attract more women, and that these facets will certainly lead to sleeping with more women. But I can assure you that attracting women through these means alone, without making equal strides in your social skills, is going to become a major issue to you.

Think about that idiot bimbo lip-synching pop songs at the bar that you so often admit to detesting. Now imagine her laying next to you in bed after sex wanting to talk. Imagine waking up the next morning to her drinking coffee and asking what the two of you are going to be doing all day because they're too dumb to take a hint. Trust me when I say you will very quickly reach a point where you start to wonder if the orgasm is worth the hours of torment that you just know is going to follow. When you have a ****ty personality and poor social skills, when all of the progress you make is based in looks and money alone, these detestable, shallow-brained types of women will be the only ones likely to overlook your social ineptitude and sleep with you.

You'll be perfectly fine with this for a short time, I'm sure, but I can tell by your lack of tolerance for stupid people that this is going to be such a big issue for you that all of the progress that comes to you via looks and money will eventually seem moot.

Any intelligent woman will pass on you for some other rich, good looking guy with a better personality that they have access to, as you're not going to be the only rich, good looking guy accessible to such women. Do you really think the b1tches are going to be looking at you if you're chilling VIP with Tom Brady? Do you really think the b1tch trying to hook up with you over Tom Brady isn't using you as a means to get to Brady?

The game is always being played, no matter what level you're at. Looks and money alone will not help lift you above it. The more money and the better your looks, the more you're going to be competing with other men who have better looks and more money. The only types you will clean up with based on these things alone will be the women that better men than you try to avoid. This is why men with a lot of money sometimes choose not to convey their riches, but they can only do this because these types of men know how to socially navigate women and people in general in order to find and get what they want. If you lack that quality, the very same problems you have now will follow you, no matter how far you go.

There is SOMETHING about my personality that drives people away or makes them not trust me. Something that causes me to be weird, and always alone when out. It's not not just anger issues, but it's hard to define exactly. Perhaps some kind of extreme selfishness? Like John Rockefeller minus all the philanthropy. Maybe they think I look like a psycho? "@$sh0le" maybe?

I perhaps have the worst personality in the world, aside from just being boring. Why should I care about some stranger who wouldn't care about me unless I had something to offer her? While my own family members are not doing well?

Also, I get tired of a girls looks literally within seconds. I've seen lots of hot girls before. It's nothing special.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I'm considering height enhancement surgery. I could get up to 5'11". I'll call the doctor Monday.

http://www.paleyinstitute.org/centers-of-excellence/stature-lengthening-center/stature-lengthening

@guru1000 what do you think?

Most likely, it will be prohibitively expensive.

Also, anyone know the best kind of shoe inserts to make me look taller?

Edit: Just looked in to it. I could get up to 6'1" if I had $180,000. Better start flipping houses!!! I'm crazy enough to do that. I just hope I'm not too old by the time I can afford it.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Last time I went down town, it's a bunch of average looking or ugly girls dressed up like they're the Queen of England

Damn dude! That's a lot of chicks in blue feathery hats...

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

There is SOMETHING about my personality that drives people away or makes them not trust me.

No offense dude, but just looking at your pictures makes you look like you're about to jump through the screen and knife me in the throat...

You're projecting some serious "non-sexy" energy.

And you'll STILL HAVE all of that "non-sexy" energy after all your billion dollar surgeries.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

No offense dude, but just looking at your pictures makes you look like you're about to jump through the screen and knife me in the throat...

HAHAHAHA!!!

Can I work with that in some way? Don't girls like that sort of thing at all? Lol.