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So I had a date with this hb8.5 last friday. Invited to play some pool at the bar, everything was fine, She was very receptive, I played ****y and funny, Kino'd her and after 1 hour I went for the kiss. We made out like animals and then she came at my appartment. We kissed, I was sucking on her tits ( Grade A boobs ) playing with her pussay. It has been a pain in the ass because of her anti slvt defense, She was soo wet thought, sucking on my lips, rubbing my D with her foot. I finally managed to take her pants off and god there was absolutely no way I could smash her so I ate her pussay in an attempt to fvck her after but again right before she get an orgasm, she told me to stop and she was COLD as ice after that. She still slept with me as I said I would not take her back home at 4 am. Fvck that and then the morning after I asked her why she was turned off like that she said I've been too forward with her.. First time ever in my life that a chick tell me that... She's a solid girl, got her shyt together, finishing uni this year, very down to heart and She's hot.

So I texted her two day's after and she never answered.. Dont know why, her ex was supposed to come to take his stuff at her house.. She dumped him 1 month ago. I think she took him back and is keeping me on the back burner for later.. Well I'm not gonna waste time on that chick but I'm just curious as to why a girl would be turned off by a man acting like a man.. Non sense.
Got two dates this weekend, God bless tinder

Have you guys ever been ghosted by a girl because you were too forward with her ?

Here is a pic of her
 

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Nearly the exact same thing happened to me recently.

I was playing a club with my band a couple of weeks ago and when we finished our set, a chick approached and asked ME out. I setup a date to make her dinner at her house a few days later and everything unfolded like it was supposed to - right up to the moment she said "STOP!!! I'm not that kind of girl!!"

My tongue was buried in her snatch at the time so this was quite a surprise, as you can imagine.

Anyway, I backed off but couldn't bust through the ASD in the end so I went home. I sent her a "nice to meet you, too bad we didn't click..." text the next day but never heard a peep in return.

Chicks be crazy :confused:
 
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Never eat on the first date. She gets off, ASD kicks in, then doesn’t want the D.
 

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So I had a date with this hb8.5 last friday. Invited to play some pool at the bar, everything was fine, She was very receptive, I played ****y and funny, Kino'd her and after 1 hour I went for the kiss. We made out like animals and then she came at my appartment. We kissed, I was sucking on her tits ( Grade A boobs ) playing with her pussay. It has been a pain in the ass because of her anti slvt defense, She was soo wet thought, sucking on my lips, rubbing my D with her foot. I finally managed to take her pants off and god there was absolutely no way I could smash her so I ate her pussay in an attempt to fvck her after but again right before she get an orgasm, she told me to stop and she was COLD as ice after that. She still slept with me as I said I would not take her back home at 4 am. Fvck that and then the morning after I asked her why she was turned off like that she said I've been too forward with her.. First time ever in my life that a chick tell me that... She's a solid girl, got her shyt together, finishing uni this year, very down to heart and She's hot.

So I texted her two day's after and she never answered.. Dont know why, her ex was supposed to come to take his stuff at her house.. She dumped him 1 month ago. I think she took him back and is keeping me on the back burner for later.. Well I'm not gonna waste time on that chick but I'm just curious as to why a girl would be turned off by a man acting like a man.. Non sense.
Got two dates this weekend, God bless tinder

Have you guys ever been ghosted by a girl because you were too forward with her ?

Here is a pic of her
She still has feelings for the ex. Right when she's about to blow she backs off. Only thing I could think of. You shouldn't have compromised and eaten her out regardless of how much ASD there was. Might have shown her you were a little desperate??? There could be a billion reasons man
 

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Never eat on the first date.
I was doing that only for the pure purpose of having her naked and fvck her, not to please her. Oh and I love to eat pussay soo kind of a semi win win situation

But I'm curious to know as to why I should not do that, Normally when she doesnt want to **** I eat her and then I fvck her right after

I know it's beta if you're doing this to please her but it's not the case at all
 

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She still has feelings for the ex. Right when she's about to blow she backs off. Only thing I could think of. You shouldn't have compromised and eaten her out regardless of how much ASD there was. Might have shown her you were a little desperate??? There could be a billion reasons man
That's what I'm thinking too but I'm pretty sure she's keeping me on the back burner for now
 

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I was doing that only for the pure purpose of having her naked and fvck her, not to please her. Oh and I love to eat pussay soo kind of a semi win win situation

But I'm curious to know as to why I should not do that, Normally when she doesnt want to **** I eat her and then I fvck her right after

I know it's beta if you're doing this to please her but it's not the case at all
She can view it as subservient, or too agressive, and not dominant behavior if you go for head on the first. I keep it for date 2 or 3 in comfort stage.
 
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She can view it as subservient, or too agressive, and not dominant behavior if you go for head on the first. I keep it for date 2 or 3 in comfort stage.
Don't you think that it depends on the attitude you're projecting when you're doing it ? It was not sensual at all, and quite dominant in the way I did it. I think it could be a nice tool when you do it in the sole purpose of escalating. What do you think ?

Could be a reason too, that + her ex. Nevermind, I just dont understand chicks that backs off when you act like a man
 

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John, we're entering deeper territory: You're a muscular guy, like me. What happens with women is that we wear the black eye for "player" right off the bat. In other words, our appearance projects "Alpha," "Want to Fvck and toss you."

Accordingly, the ASD is strong ... especially on the first date. If you don't want to wait for subsequent dates showing her that you are not looking for the quick good ol' pump and dump--then balance the alpha image by injecting beta throws:

"You're an incredible girl"
"I haven't met a girl like you in some time"
"You would make an excellent gf"
"I'm looking for love"
"Women always get the wrong impression of me. I'm really a nice guy"

In other words, whatever you learned not to say to a girl on SoSuave, you say ... with sincerity.

Take a look at this post:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/thread...lentless-in-action.228292/page-2#post-2277443

She begins with strong ASD. I feed her straight beta, and with each throw, she softens:
  • I couldn’t stop thinking about you all week;
  • You have been on my mind constantly. I know you are a girl I can see myself with long-term and marry. You are not only beautiful, but you have all the great compatible qualities I seek in a woman;
  • I explain that power of love is the greatest motivator of human behavior;
  • I explain that without the will to find love and secure love, life is meaningless. :whistle:
ASD eradicated.

After the bang, don't beta-ize her. Then fall back.
 
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John, we're entering deeper territory: You're a muscular guy, like me. What happens with women is that we wear the black eye for "player" right off the bat. In other words, our appearance projects "Alpha," "Want to Fvck and toss you."

Accordingly, the ASD is strong ... especially on the first date. If you don't want to wait for subsequent dates showing her that you are not looking for the quick good ol' pump and dump--then balance the alpha image by injecting beta throws:

"You're an incredible girl"
"I haven't met a girl like you in some time"
"You would make an excellent gf"
"I'm looking for love"
"Women always get the wrong impression of me. I'm really a nice guy"

In other words, whatever you learned not to say to a girl on SoSuave, you say ... with sincerity.

Take a look at this post:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/thread...lentless-in-action.228292/page-2#post-2277443

She begins with strong ASD. I feed her straight beta, and with each throw, she softens:
  • I couldn’t stop thinking about you all week;
  • You have been on my mind constantly. I know you are a girl I can see myself with long-term and marry. You are not only beautiful, but you have all the great compatible qualities I seek in a woman;
  • I explain that power of love is the greatest motivator of human behavior;
  • I explain that without the will to find love and secure love, life is meaningless. :whistle:
ASD eradicated.

After the bang, don't beta-ize her. Then fall back.

Just read the thread, Excellent. I had a theory about that, nice to see that it's working. I told her that she was beautiful one time while we were making out heavily and godamn that turned her on hard. I didnt taught it could work if I was sliding into the fake beta mode while making out.. I absolutely love what you just said about muscular guys being tagged as players. I think its playing a huge role in the way we should handle the escalation. Great, I'll try this next time.

I'm not gonna burn the bridges with her by hard nexting her but I'm hesitant as to initiating one last time and telling her some beta things so she's not gonna think that I only want to pump and dump.. Something like, You made me feel a strong connection something that makes me wanna have more than just cex with you -- I dont know dude it sounds so beta to me. Whats your opinion about that
 

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Something like, You made me feel a strong connection something that makes me wanna have more than just cex with you -- I dont know dude it sounds so beta to me. Whats your opinion about that
As long as it's done congruently with your persona. If she thinks for a minute you are deceiving her to bang her, it'll backfire.

It takes practice to sound authentic, but remember what ASD stands for: Anti-Slut Defense. You made her feel like a slut, hence, her retraction. The key is to make her feel loved, not used, not like a slut. You made this girl feel like a cvm dumpster, ergo her ejection.
 

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My buddy had a first date with a girl he took on a picnic in the park. They ended up making out and had sechs in his car. 2 days later he texts her and she claims he was too direct and sechsual with her and she didn't think they would be a good match.

I had a girl I was texting and texted my way into her bed later that night. We had some awesome sechs. The next day she starts sending me hate messages.

Basically these girls are ashamed of themselves. Its easier to blame you(standard chic mode of operation) than admit that they got caught up in their own emotions and went farther than they really wanted.

Sometimes just because you can, doesn't mean you should! :cool: If I don't care about her, then yeah its game on. I don't care what happens or how she feels. But if she seems like a solid girl, I will proceed cautiously to prevent these types of problems.
 

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As long as it's done congruently with your persona. If she thinks for a minute you are deceiving her to bang her, it'll backfire.

It takes practice to sound authentic, but remember what ASD stands for: Anti-Slut Defense. You made her feel like a slut, hence, her retraction. The key is to make her feel loved, not used, not like a slut. You made this girl feel like a cvm dumpster, ergo her ejection.
I've already initiated two times, first time she didnt answer and second time she came with some bull**** excuse about why she didnt answered and then I invited her for another date and she did not even replied so that's why I'm hesitant as I dont want to look desperate by trying to make her feel special
 

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Likely done. Leave her alone. If she responds, schedule a date. Don't beta-ize her via text; it's incongruent with your in-person. Do it in person, if there is a next time.

Lesson learned.
 

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Likely done. Leave her alone. If she responds, schedule a date. Don't beta-ize her via text; it's incongruent with your in-person. Do it in person, if there is a next time.

Lesson learned.
Lesson learned for sure, thanks for your nice input as always. Maybe I'm gonna send a simple hey next week just to see what happens, if she doesnt answer.. No big deal gonna try again in a couple of months. Not gonna burn the bridge for sure.
 

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I've already initiated two times, first time she didnt answer and second time she came with some bull**** excuse about why she didnt answered and then I invited her for another date and she did not even replied so that's why I'm hesitant as I dont want to look desperate by trying to make her feel special
That’s 3 strikes, you’re likely Out.
 
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So I had a date with this hb8.5 last friday. Invited to play some pool at the bar, everything was fine, She was very receptive, I played ****y and funny, Kino'd her and after 1 hour I went for the kiss. We made out like animals and then she came at my appartment. We kissed, I was sucking on her tits ( Grade A boobs ) playing with her pussay. It has been a pain in the ass because of her anti slvt defense, She was soo wet thought, sucking on my lips, rubbing my D with her foot. I finally managed to take her pants off and god there was absolutely no way I could smash her so I ate her pussay in an attempt to fvck her after but again right before she get an orgasm, she told me to stop and she was COLD as ice after that. She still slept with me as I said I would not take her back home at 4 am. Fvck that and then the morning after I asked her why she was turned off like that she said I've been too forward with her.. First time ever in my life that a chick tell me that... She's a solid girl, got her shyt together, finishing uni this year, very down to heart and She's hot.

So I texted her two day's after and she never answered.. Dont know why, her ex was supposed to come to take his stuff at her house.. She dumped him 1 month ago. I think she took him back and is keeping me on the back burner for later.. Well I'm not gonna waste time on that chick but I'm just curious as to why a girl would be turned off by a man acting like a man.. Non sense.
Got two dates this weekend, God bless tinder

Have you guys ever been ghosted by a girl because you were too forward with her ?

Here is a pic of her
Okay. So apparently there is someone else besides guru who has proof that they date attractive girls. See how important pictures are?

I have no idea why she acted the way she did, but I would like to ask your honest opinion... Do you think if a guy were to make $250k/year or more, that it would keep these girls around? I don't have time to spend in the gym like other guys so I want to try to rely on financial success to boost my SMV.
 

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Okay. So apparently there is someone else besides guru who has proof that they date attractive girls. See how important pictures are?

I have no idea why she acted the way she did, but I would like to ask your honest opinion... Do you think if a guy were to make $250k/year or more, that it would keep these girls around? I don't have time to spend in the gym like other guys so I want to try to rely on financial success to boost my SMV.
Her ex is a financial director at chrysler and he make 125 000 $ a year. He was paying a brand new Audi to his ex gf that was cheating on him. Then this girl dumped him because he was too insecure..

Money to a certain point with girls like her wont do shyt just like going to the gym wont do shyt, they know what they want and you cant rely only on one thing.. Trust me, if I dont work on my inner self, the gym wont change anything to it. It's all in your attitude.
You'll have to take a golddiggers if you want to rely on financial success only and these Bitsh will cheat on you with absolutely no remorse.. See the ex of that girl ? Clear exemple of a golddigger
 
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Her ex is a financial director at chrysler and he make 125 000 $ a year. He was paying a brand new Audi to his ex gf that was cheating on him. Then this girl dumped him because he was too insecure..
Interesting.

I never will buy girls expensive things. I don't owe them that. I would love to be a millionaire and not give them a dime.
 
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