If I'm high value.. Why should i?

[RichardTheFrog]

The ONLY thing I can tell from the pictures of them is that the woman isn't "hot" at all. From a looks perspective, he could have did 10x better. The other stuff you are discussing is pure speculation as you don't know them personally, thus, you don't know the dynamics of their relationship.

Pictures never tell a complete story, for proof all you have to do is scroll through Facebook. People routinely post pictures with them looking happy with their partners, but the people who know the couple personally, know damn well that they are unhappy and always fighting/arguing.



Cartoon shyt Sir. For example, define "masculine nature". Go ahead.....is it beating your chest? Is it James Bond? Maybe it's Stone Cold Steve Austin? Maybe it's the Marlboro Man?



Well sir, when the United States stops operating on a capitalistic system.....then report back to me on how money doesn't matter. Until then, your argument has no basis in any American Reality.




Oh I see, so you know Mark Zuckerberg "personally"? Cool, tell me about him, is he a "cool cat"? Is he the life of the party at the bar? Go ahead.....tell me about Mark Zuckerberg because apparently you know him personally, right?



Lol, so are you saying Zuckerberg has failed to do that through Facebook, his various public speeches, and through the FACT that damn near everybody in Silicon Valley worships the ground he walks on?



Okay and you got this "business analysis" from where now? Did you just RANDOMLY pull this out of thin air or is there some actual market based, intelligent research that's the foundation of your finding? I've studied the start-up and development of Facebook, nothing in my research shows that this was a pure luck/freak accident.

I agree with everything you said except the luck part.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/24/bil...success-like-mine-only-happens-with-luck.html

It's not like he was writing the code thinking "okay, I'm gonna be the 3rd richest person in the world."

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I talk about real things. You talk about theories.

Fact is, YOU don't do any of this stuff. You are neither rich nor charismatic.

And @deesade 's avatar looks like a starving drug addict. Is that what he is in real life?

If I have no social skills, then how do I get people to work for me? How do I have two girls who are both pretty inexperienced willing to have sex with me, and even tell me they want me to fulfill their BD SM fantasies?

99% of other guys are not worth talking to.

You went onto a website for it. I mean hey you got two bitches coming at you so props to you for that. But you missed his point completely though. I don't feel like explaining it all step by step to you, you should have learned it through socialization in school when you are young.

The ONLY thing I can tell from the pictures of them is that the woman isn't "hot" at all. From a looks perspective, he could have did 10x better. The other stuff you are discussing is pure speculation as you don't know them personally, thus, you don't know the dynamics of their relationship.

Pictures never tell a complete story, for proof all you have to do is scroll through Facebook. People routinely post pictures with them looking happy with their partners, but the people who know the couple personally, know damn well that they are unhappy and always fighting/arguing.

Funny how those same people also have to retake photos a million times too and do NOT want you to take one of them. Why? It shows more or less who they really are. After all, a picture is a thousand words.

Cartoon shyt Sir. For example, define "masculine nature". Go ahead.....is it beating your chest? Is it James Bond? Maybe it's Stone Cold Steve Austin? Maybe it's the Marlboro Man?

It's a state of being. You can't just explain it like it's a house or a tree. You have to experience to know what I'm talking about. You likely have but just don't understand what I mean. Why is it hard to explain? It's akin to describing what salt tastes like or what the color blue looks like. You can't just explain a sensation.

Well sir, when the United States stops operating on a capitalistic system.....then report back to me on how money doesn't matter. Until then, your argument has no basis in any American Reality.

Of course money is important Tenacity. But it is not a core need. Like I've said before, strip away from a man everything he has but his character and his body. Compare him to another man who you've done the same to. Who is the greater man? Who has more power? This is what I am trying to say. Money cannot fix these things. This is why a woman will cheat on a super rich man for some jobless scum. We have not evolved to become inherently attracted to someone with money. That's why there are certain traits women like in men that money cannot buy, which is again why women will still cheat on a man with a lot of money.


Oh I see, so you know Mark Zuckerberg "personally"? Cool, tell me about him, is he a "cool cat"? Is he the life of the party at the bar? Go ahead.....tell me about Mark Zuckerberg because apparently you know him personally, right?

Of course not. I'm saying that he likely doesn't have the social charm that the people I've mentioned above have.

Lol, so are you saying Zuckerberg has failed to do that through Facebook, his various public speeches, and through the FACT that damn near everybody in Silicon Valley worships the ground he walks on?

If George Bush, Donald Trump, or a Saudi oil king walked walked into Silicon Valley, they would have people turning around and bending over for them the same way.

Okay and you got this "business analysis" from where now? Did you just RANDOMLY pull this out of thin air or is there some actual market based, intelligent research that's the foundation of your finding? I've studied the start-up and development of Facebook, nothing in my research shows that this was a pure luck/freak accident.

Well I mean it's kinda just common sense. You cannot become one of the richest people in the world without some luck, especially not that fast either. But I do recall him saying it somewhere in a video which I can try to find.

Bold

 

[Bible_Belt]

report back to me on how money doesn't matter.

Ironic it is that you are the walking, talking example of how money does not matter in regard to one's happiness with women. Money is great for getting women, but it has very little to do with, and I dare say an inverse relationship to, one's overall satisfaction with the female gender.

The other irony I see is that you are insistent that you are correct to be unsatisfied and angry. When we're talking about emotional state, if you're unhappy, there is some sort of failure somewhere. Unhappiness is not correct; it is not nirvana, I promise. But you preach it like a religion.

If you could turn off your obsession with your own money, then you stand a chance of meeting a woman who is not concerned about your bank account, either. But until that happens, you're inevitably going to keep meeting women who disappoint you.

This thread is about being "high value," which started out in the OP's post meaning to have the social value of being a bouncer. But now of course it has turned into a thread about how the only value in women's eyes is your money, which is why only rich guys get laid, which is why the world is overpopulated with rich people because they keep making so many babies, makes perfect sense.

The truth is that women see value in a lot of traits, which can be confusing even to women, and if a woman is confused about the reasons behind her emotions, you as a man should just give up trying to understand them yourself and go with it. I'll repeat my advice no one follows: go volunteer at an animal shelter, meet a girl there, and tell me all she cares about is your money. It's not going to happen. She'll be into you because you displayed value other than money. Why is volunteering to save the homeless kitties a demonstration of value? It's supply and demand. You're not going to do it. Neither is any other guy who reads this web site, because if you followed advice like that, you wouldn't be on this web site.

 

[Tenacity]

You went onto a website for it. I mean hey you got two bitches coming at you so props to you for that. But you missed his point completely though. I don't feel like explaining it all step by step to you, you should have learned it through socialization in school when you are young.

Bold

It's a state of being. You can't just explain it like it's a house or a tree.

Okay then you don't have a definition for it. It's sort of like saying I'm a "spiritual" person, what does "spiritual" mean? Well, it has 1,000 definitions to 1,000 different people, who are all "spiritual" in whatever way they deem such.

Same with the definition of "being a real man", if you ask 50 people you will get 50 different definitions.


Of course money is important Tenacity. But it is not a core need.

Okay then give me your money then. You don't need it. Would you like to send it over via Paypal, check, wire, or ACH?


If George Bush, Donald Trump, or a Saudi oil king walked walked into Silicon Valley, they would have people turning around and bending over for them the same way.

And your point is what now?


Well I mean it's kinda just common sense. You cannot become one of the richest people in the world without some luck, especially not that fast either. But I do recall him saying it somewhere in a video which I can try to find.

Facebook is a business. You don't grow, fund, and develop a business from a start-up to a billion dollar enterprise just through luck. There's a significant amount of planning, research, marketing, forecasts, investors, technologies, and people that come together to make that work. I don't call that luck, I call that business.

Luck to me is sitting at the slot machines.

 

[sosousage]

Fb was made by nerds from hagvard. They had good idea and made it working. There were a lot of other social media in thst time but fb was more catchy, user friendly. Same as google is better choice than yahoo or bing.

I wouldnt say its luck

Ps. Marketing also played role. And its not luck neither

 

[Tenacity]

Ironic it is that you are the walking, talking example of how money does not matter in regard to one's happiness with women.

Can you quote the person that said it did? A person can suffer from depression and be a billionaire or a bum on the street corner.

"MONEY" as you guys refer to it....is the result of a business exchange, meaning, a customer wanted a product or service and I provided said product or service to them for a HIGHER cost than what it costs me to provide said product or service. I do that "X" amount of times and I produce "Y" amount of profits....or "MONEY" as you guys refer to it.

The ability to produce "MONEY" has nothing to do with a person's battle with depression, childhood issues, family issues, or anything of the sort. "MONEY" allows you to buy other products and services, but that doesn't mean it can solve all of your problems in relation to depression and NOBODY has ever said it does....so why in the world do you guys keep making that argument?

Also the notion that "MONEY" can't solve all of your problems isn't an excuse to be BROKE, which is what many people try to spin it as, in order to make themselves feel comfortable being a loser in life without any real accomplishments.

The other irony I see is that you are insistent that you are correct to be unsatisfied and angry. When we're talking about emotional state, if you're unhappy, there is some sort of failure somewhere.

There you have it ladies and gentlemen. If a guy is unhappy, angry, or unsatisfied in general.....it's ALL his fault. We apparently live in a VACUUM where everything that happens to a guy (good or bad) is the result of his own actions.

This thread is about being "high value," which started out in the OP's post meaning to have the social value of being a bouncer. But now of course it has turned into a thread about how the only value in women's eyes is your money, which is why only rich guys get laid, which is why the world is overpopulated with rich people because they keep making so many babies, makes perfect sense.

Tenacity never said that "MONEY" as you guys refer to it....was the only thing that turned a woman on. You will never see Tenacity say that. For the 100th time, my mantra is that a guy fix his Looks, Personality, and FINANCES. All three, not just one. From there, he goes out and plays the numbers game to approach 20 women, get 12 numbers, 6 dates, and 3 fvcks. From the 3 fvcks, there might be 1 of them that could be somewhat of a decent relationship partner.

That's been my mantra since day one, never at any point in time have I said "MONEY" (as you guys refer to it) was everything. That doesn't even make any sense.

 

[Bible_Belt]

There you have it ladies and gentlemen. If a guy is unhappy, angry, or unsatisfied in general.....it's ALL his fault. We apparently live in a VACUUM where everything that happens to a guy (good or bad) is the result of his own actions.

I promise I'm not trying to kick you when you are down. I hope you don't see it that way.

A now-deceased friend of mine went through court-ordered drug rehab. He told me about a conversation he had with a counselor. That counselor had been at the job for several years. He said every person who plops down in his office chair and starts talking will tell him their life story. One of the things that struck him was that two different people might tell him virtually the exact same life story. But at the end, one of the two people would conclude that they were unlucky and had a miserable life and the other person would claim that they were very lucky and were happy to be so fortunate. The only difference was the perception inside their minds.

Another story about perspective - I know of a 22 y/o mma fighter who got cancer, a big tumor in his chest. That's pretty fvcking depressing, to anyone, and certainly was to him at first. He felt very unlucky. But then, as part of his chemo, he met a lot of little kids at the hospital who were a lot worse off than him. Try telling a six year old with a brain tumor that YOUR life isn't fair. That changed his perspective. He was lucky compared to them. His own cancer was curable, and his new attitude didn't hurt either. Now he is a pro mma fighter again, true story. He never believed any of the doctors who told him he would never fight again.

Happiness is a choice, my friend. No one can make that choice for you. It has to come from you.

 

[guru1000]

There comes a point when the time invested becomes a "waste" because there's really no significant or meaningful return on the investment provided.

For example, I have an MBA, but my "full potential" would be completing a PhD. Could I complete a PhD if I put my time, energy, and resources towards it? Of course! But is there really going to be a major market return for my career in having a PhD? NO.

This does not contradict my statement of striving to reach one's potential. Address the central tenet. Don't raise ancillary arguments not purported.

I don't believe Excellence is trying to operate at "full capacity" or "full potential".........excellence is the quality of being "extremely good". As long as there's one area you are BETTER in than most of your peers, you have achieved excellence within that particular area, even if it's the only area you have achieved said excellence in.Quote

That's extremely good, not excellent.

The metric of "top 10 and top 50" are really subjective. I have seen you guys post pictures of chicks that I didn't think were that attractive as they were too boney with no A.SS. Just like I'm sure the big booty black chicks I like, most of you guys don't like.

So your "top 10 girl" might not be my "top 10 girl", and vice versa.

Everything revolving SMV is quantitative, even looks. See photofeeler.com.

However, there are preferences. But in no way does one girl's preference negate your SMV. SMV applies to the whole market.

For example,

A 8 guy will have more success with attracting women than a 7 guy. Although, the 7 guy might beat the 8 guy with a particular girl or group of girls does not mean the 7 guy has greater SMV, as the 8 guy will have more options as a whole than the 7 guy. Not complicated stuff here.

Again, you have this mentality of just investing, investing, and investing, without looking at the big picture of if said investments are really worth the time, energy, and resources that you will need to put out. See my PhD example above

See above.

No and I've never went off on a girl for rejecting me either. The girls I go off on, are actually in relationships with me or dating me. It's their poor behavior I go off on.

The 5 or so girls you deemed "quality" dropped you. Stop back-pedaling.

Says the guy who threatened to sue me and sue the forum? Says the guy who goes ape shyt and posts racial slurs? Says the guy who went ape shyt in my PM a year ago? Says the guy who ALSO ADMITTED to me in PM that he TOO has had issues going off on women?

If a willful act of emotion serves a directed purpose, great. It served to get NN and your buddy BlueAlpha banned. You are confusing willful machinations disguised as emotional outbursts--with--unguided, uncontrollable outbursts. You commit the latter.

My "emotion" served a willful purpose; a contrived plan to serve an agenda. Your emotional outbursts are founded on being butthurt with the wish to go postal on the female population. Very different.

You are comparing apples to watermelons.

Actually you were, when I stated you have no/little emotional intelligence, I was referring to your personal, and you directed it to business.

 

[BeExcellent]

Happiness is a choice, my friend.

This is truth. None of us can control the situations or conditions that life imposes upon us entirely. We can greatly influence our own lives through our choices and behaviors, but at the end of the day random stuff still happens that is beyond our actual realm of control. Nobody in Puerto Rico could stop hurricane Maria, for example. However we have absolute and total control over how we respond to our circumstances. We have control over our emotional state and we have control over our perceptions. This is extraordinarily important because our perception is our de facto reality. The subconscious mind doesn't deal in fact at all. It deals in perceptions only. That is why (and this is exceedingly great news) it can be re-programmed. We can actually choose our reality since our reality is rooted not in fact but in perception.

This is why you can find happy rich people as well as unhappy rich people; happy poor people as well as unhappy poor people. All are living their lives according to their own perceptions and the limitations or possibilities found within their perceptions. This is why people have irrational fears. It's make believe.

If we take something like "Excellence" for example, and we quantify it, we can't. It is endlessly variable according to the person in question. Floyd Mayweather is never going to be Stephen Hawking, but I think most people would agree that both men have reached excellence in their own lanes.

Excellence is a striving toward a standard which is an inherently MOVING target. Think of it more like infinity. What is infinity? I don't know. It's infinite, having no end, it is unknowable. Nobody knows. That's the fun of it, the trying to find out.

Excellence and the pursuit of excellence is the same. The further you go and the closer you think you get the more you can see into the future possibilities. Just like approaching infinity in physics, approaching excellence in life simply lets you see just how much further back the goal posts can go, and then it becomes a choice to be satisfied of one's placement on the continuum or to strive further - to push beyond one's present self limiting perceptions (one's defacto reality) and expand more. In my real estate dealings I couldn't see financial independence at first. I had to take it on belief, on faith and head in that direction. As I passed milestones I began to see further possibilities, I could then SEE financial independence, and now I am just about there - and now looking further down the road at financial abundance...the point is this process has changed my perceptions of what I thought possible. *I* changed within myself what I thought possible!! Now if that isn't exciting I don't know what is! And I'm no great shakes really. If I can do it, so can anybody reading this.

We can chose to settle in and get comfortable or we can choose the discipline to keep striving. And neither choice is wrong, just different.

It not only applies to our inner world, but also to our outer world. Think for a minute about the manosphere for example, about red-pill/blue-pill, about all those techniques and labels and all that stuff that men here at SS are learning for example. Are they really learning anything? Not really in an impirical sense. Men are still men with a certain physiology and women are still women with a certain physiology...but men arrive here and learn to change their perception of themselves and in so doing learn how to influence how they are perceived by the greater world around them.

So happiness is a choice. Excellence is a choice. Our entire internal state and much of our external state is a choice. That is good news...or that is bad news gentlemen.

The choice is yours.

 

[Von]

Ironic it is that you are the walking, talking example of how money does not matter in regard to one's happiness with women. Money is great for getting women, but it has very little to do with, and I dare say an inverse relationship to, one's overall satisfaction with the female gender.

The other irony I see is that you are insistent that you are correct to be unsatisfied and angry. When we're talking about emotional state, if you're unhappy, there is some sort of failure somewhere. Unhappiness is not correct; it is not nirvana, I promise. But you preach it like a religion.

If you could turn off your obsession with your own money, then you stand a chance of meeting a woman who is not concerned about your bank account, either. But until that happens, you're inevitably going to keep meeting women who disappoint you.

This thread is about being "high value," which started out in the OP's post meaning to have the social value of being a bouncer. But now, of course, it has turned into a thread about how the only value in women's eyes is your money, which is why only rich guys get laid, which is why the world is overpopulated with rich people because they keep making so many babies, makes perfect sense.

The truth is that women see value in a lot of traits, which can be confusing even to women, and if a woman is confused about the reasons behind her emotions, you as a man should just give up trying to understand them yourself and go with it. I'll repeat my advice no one follows: go volunteer at an animal shelter, meet a girl there, and tell me all she cares about is your money. It's not going to happen. She'll be into you because you displayed value other than money. Why is volunteering to save the homeless kitties a demonstration of value? It's supply and demand. You're not going to do it. Neither is any other guy who reads this web site, because if you followed advice like that, you wouldn't be on this web site.

Actually, your advice is gold if you want to meet a rich woman or ''daughters'' of rich people who have more ''social time'' and ''giving back'' attitude. Such place will increase your chances

High Value is contextual.... High Value I believe is about being the provider between the ''client/girls/guys/prospect/etc'' and the ''service(clubs, business, networking, sech etc..''....

In a nightclub for the club people, the bouncer has high value because he's the one to decide WHO gets in

The bartender has high value because ... he controls THE ALCOHOL (and he's surrounded by people)

The Manager less high value for the clients of the bar... but for the employees he's HIGH VALUE (thus get the bartender female co-worker) because he CONTROLS the place.

The owner has high value.... because he's the reason they all working he OWN IT


Dancing: On a dance floor or a dance school

The PRO Dancers are HIGH VALUE because they control the flow of their DANCE + they guarantee a GOOD time during the dance

The teacher is HIGH VALUE because you NEED them to LEARN and they CAN lead (+ they in contact with people all the time) etc....

You own a business? You high value to those who NEED / USE your Service/product, your employees, etc...

High Value is contextual and even among the TOP10, TOP5, TOP3 some have higher value than others (yep, even among the elite there is a social ranking of high value and hierarchy) etc...

Being HIGH VALUE has still some basis... It's about CONTROLLING THE NEED of the people, it's about PROVIDING what they seek, it's about RECEIVING for the service or deed.

So if you are HIGH value, I am glad... but it won't necessarily bring the girl to you... why? She might be passive in the approach, she might not know you high value, she might be overshadowed (like want a 9 to 5 guy she can control).... beside if she knows you high value... she likely will expect you to be GOOD AT SEDUCTION (if you ain't... her expectations might crash your chances)

So you need to approach girls.... why? Training, Increase Social Circle, increase your VALUE

Ever noticed... in a PUA forum, SoSuave, or any places... the guys who get the most girls are considered HIGH VALUE by the others?

Focus on yourself, build your life, girls are optional but learn to master the trade of seduction... the girl who loves you will always consider you HIGH value and HIGHER value than the others who seek her attention.

So you should approach because you HIGH Value... being in the top... I know that making it to the top is actually the EASY part... remaining at the TOP... that's another story and a lot of work in itself....

Being happy will increase your chances, improving yourself will increase, being in a provider spot will increase your chance, knowing the seduction game will increase it.... if you want money out of it... it will come like a woman... as a side plate.

 

[Suckerpunch]

If a willful act of emotion serves a directed purpose, great. It served to get NN and your buddy BlueAlpha banned.

My "emotion" served a willful purpose; a contrived plan to serve an agenda.

You should include that as one of your of life's greatest accomplishments on your online dating profiles.

 

[Tenacity]

I promise I'm not trying to kick you when you are down. I hope you don't see it that way.

A now-deceased friend of mine went through court-ordered drug rehab. He told me about a conversation he had with a counselor. That counselor had been at the job for several years. He said every person who plops down in his office chair and starts talking will tell him their life story. One of the things that struck him was that two different people might tell him virtually the exact same life story. But at the end, one of the two people would conclude that they were unlucky and had a miserable life and the other person would claim that they were very lucky and were happy to be so fortunate. The only difference was the perception inside their minds.

Another story about perspective - I know of a 22 y/o mma fighter who got cancer, a big tumor in his chest. That's pretty fvcking depressing, to anyone, and certainly was to him at first. He felt very unlucky. But then, as part of his chemo, he met a lot of little kids at the hospital who were a lot worse off than him. Try telling a six year old with a brain tumor that YOUR life isn't fair. That changed his perspective. He was lucky compared to them. His own cancer was curable, and his new attitude didn't hurt either. Now he is a pro mma fighter again, true story. He never believed any of the doctors who told him he would never fight again.

Happiness is a choice, my friend. No one can make that choice for you. It has to come from you.

This is a very good post and I would agree that happiness COULD be a choice, the only problem is that some people have certain conditions physically, emotionally, psychologically, financially, etc., where it becomes very difficult to make the "choice" to be happy when everything is pulling you down.

 

[Tenacity]

Everything revolving SMV is quantitative, even looks. See photofeeler.com.

However, there are preferences. But in no way does one girl's preference negate your SMV. SMV applies to the whole market.

For example,

A 8 guy will have more success with attracting women than a 7 guy. Although, the 7 guy might beat the 8 guy with a particular girl or group of girls does not mean the 7 guy has greater SMV, as the 8 guy will have more options as a whole than the 7 guy. Not complicated stuff here.

This doesn't even make any sense. First of all, are you in agreement that attraction is subjective? If you agree, then SMV is also subjective as someone's sexual market value is tied to their level of attraction. Which means there is no universal SMV that applies across the board. A guy that's an "8" to this girl might be a "6" to another girl. A guy that's a "7" to this group of girls might be a "9" to another group. Same thing applies with women, not every guy agrees on what a "dimepiece" looks like.

The 5 or so girls you deemed "quality" dropped you. Stop back-pedaling.

That's not the way it happened.

If a willful act of emotion serves a directed purpose, great. It served to get NN and your buddy BlueAlpha banned. You are confusing willful machinations disguised as emotional outbursts--with--unguided, uncontrollable outbursts. You commit the latter.

So when you act overly emotional.....that's OK because you are deliberating doing it? But when I do it, that's not OK because I'm serious when I'm doing it?

Actually you were, when I stated you have no/little emotional intelligence, I was referring to your personal, and you directed it to business.

My question is this....in all seriousness.....why do you care so much about psycho-analyzing Tenacity? There's a large group of you guys that disagree with me, can't stand my commentary, YET, you just can't help but to continue to try to "figure Tenacity out". Why waste all of your time, energy, and mental capabilities trying to figure out someone you said you DON'T LIKE?

 

[Suckerpunch]

If a willful act of emotion serves a directed purpose, great. It served to get NN and your buddy BlueAlpha banned.

Well, since you brought me up, Ponzi. Be careful to speak your exposer's name in vain. Wouldn't want to risk him coming back for one night only to out your "consulting" nosense once again, since it's barely recovered from when he did to it 6 months ago? Too late now

Let's face it, you're a clown and a characature. When you tell that hilarious story of how your friend "ratted" you out, you use Wolf of Wall Street jargon like "rat" because it's all part of the wannabe-mafia gimmick. Ever see Shutter Island? It's about a "federal marshal" being beckoned to investigate a disappearance on an island prison for the criminally insane. At the end, you find out he was actually the most dangerous patient on the island and this was all just an experiment.

For a non-cinema example, you're what most people like to call a "bluetooth dousche". It's a meme of a guy who dresses to the nines and is constantly "closing deals" in a very loud manner in public. For a demonstration, watch a Grant Cardone training video on YouTube. His men fancy themselves "high end closers", but they're telemarketers who annoy people during their dinner. If you didn't know, your HB9 cashier hates you when you walk away from the counter to swear at your friend for not "closing" by "the noon deadline" as a means to impress her.

People like you, tinyneil (an autistic old curmudgeon) and BeStrange (a woman beater) spend an ungodly amount of time on this website living out a fantasy alter ego. Anybody with any critical thinking skills can see that the life you claim to live is inconsistent with any other millionaires in history. Successful people have more pressing matters than a "Decade Of Delusion" on an anonymous PUA forum. That should be the name of your "life coaching" brand that you pedal in PM's here, actually. It's why you were so unhinged with panic and fear with my old "Beware the life coach" thread. I was exposing the way you are trying to make a living since nobody will hire you now.

To all readers: DON'T LISTEN TO PONZI unless your idea of living that millionaire lifestyle is going off on racist tirades on internet forums in between trips to the slammer for the better part of 10 years. Be careful who you take advice from. Anybody can, and obviously will, make large claims for themselves when there is no responsibility or compulsion to actually live up to these ideals because this is an anonymous PUA forum for men down on their luck, and not real life.

And if you have a problem with anything I said today Ponzi, call my lawyer.
1-800-MIC-DROP

 

[Julian]

Wtf is this thread even about anymore lol

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Wtf is this thread even about anymore lol

Some peoples takes the internets way too serious. Always have, always will.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

It really is time to get over it.

They won't. Their problem is projection personal insecurity on to women, not women themselves, as they always cry about. Though far from being the only ones in these parts.

I still have no idea how a man like Tenacity can acquire over 200 notches and be in complete game denial.

Because he bangs easy sixes out of the slum; i.e. genuinely low quality women. Then wonders why they all turn out to be hoes; like riding a bike but never taking the stablisers off. He clearly doesn't have any game, per se. Fck, I can go out every night of the week, for a whole year and bang a 6 (if I manage to actually get it up), as I imagine you could. But you know, we have more self respect than that.

 

[Tenacity]

Some peoples takes the internets way too serious. Always have, always will.

Some of you guys are so inconsistent.

- One minute you claim this site is like a "cult" and the information provided here is what guys should take back out into the field/reality and apply to their own lives (which would mean they are taking this site seriously).

- Then the next minute, you hear the same guys saying don't take this website so seriously.

Which is it? Should a guy use the information, DJ Bible, and other commentary on this website as a "serious" self-improvement resource? Or, should he not take any of this seriously and this is nothing but a random website?

They won't. Their problem is projection personal insecurity on to women, not women themselves, as they always cry about. Though far from being the only ones in these parts.

What personal insecurity am I masking and putting all on women? You mean to tell me that by questioning why a lot of women have bad finances, bad attitudes, bad hair weaves, and 6 kids from 6 different criminals....this means I'm an insecure guy?

Because he bangs easy sixes out of the slum; i.e. genuinely low quality women.

You are making stuff up again. I have told you a million times that most of the women I date are "educated" women, not hoodrats. The issues I've been describing are across the board.

I still have no idea how a man like Tenacity can acquire over 200 notches and be in complete game denial. Seriously no idea how that works.

Any guy with two brain cells to rub together starts to get an inkling that there's more to this sh*t after the first 5.

Well, like I said I don't utilize "Game" techniques. That's what you do, which is fine, I don't. I believe if a guy fixes his Looks, Personality, and Finances to where he's "attractive" to women, he doesn't need "Game".

In terms of how can I acquire as many women and not utilize "Game"? It's simple:

- Most women say that I'm "cute". Even women on this website said that. Plus the 6 pack adds to the overall "good looks".

- Personality wise there's never a dull moment around me. I'm the life of the party, the class clown in a lot of ways.

- Finances wise, well, you already know about that so there's no need for me to spell it out further or else I might be considered "bragging".

 

[Tenacity]

Listen, you are talking to me. Not some fvcking idiot.

I honestly don't know Deesade because it seems very HARD to have a real discussion with you....when you keep flat out lying, saying that I've said things that I never said, making up cartoonish stories about me, etc. For example.....

And you haven't had one girlfriend in the entire time that you've been on this website.

Another lie. When did I say this Deesade? Can you please post the thread I made, or the post within someone else's thread, or the private message I said this to you in, or anything of the sort? Again, it's hard to have a REAL discussion with you about our different viewpoints when you just keep making up stuff man.

I think we have a strong potential here for a quality discussion. For example, you come from the viewpoint that cold approaching should be a solid foundation and that using "game techniques" should be included in every guy's "style". I disagree with both points. So there is potential here for a very great discussion with both of us debating our various sides and putting ALL of the information out there so the readers can take what they need from it and apply it to their own lives.

But I can't do this man if you keep making up stuff about me.

You are starting to get like @guru1000. There's a very HIGH potential between me and him to have real, long, quality, discussions about our different viewpoints. But it's very HARD to do that with him because he always goes off the deep end making up stuff, or if you really back him into a corner, he just starts "clownin".

 

[Cambridge]

This thread is about being "high value," which started out in the OP's post meaning to have the social value of being a bouncer.

Why the f*ck am I approaching females?

Shouldn't they be approaching me?
I mean you date me I generally gain nothing.. Sex..

this fvcking epic question. stay on subject

when you realize that virtually the whole d4mn world revolves on the labor of men: infrastructure, civil engineering, architecture, systems, agriculture, primary systems, defense....

an observer in the 1800s noted that "manly character is glorious"

who was it who said "women are takers of value"?

women won't be of any use in this world unless _we_ make room for their talent. maybe we need to rediscover them. maybe it is us that needs to see differently.

otherwise we'll probably keep getting the same sh1t: a generation of lewd, media controlled, loose, bitchy, complaining, feminist, manipulative...alpha widows.