PLEASE UNBAN TENACITY!!

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I have never understood why the people who "don't like Tenacity" (and there are a LOT of them on this board), don't just put "Tenacity" on Ignore, rather than trying to ban my voice and ban my unique point of view from being expressed.
A lot of people have very frail grips on the views that define their identities. This makes them hyper defensive when someone challenges their belief system.

In other words.. when you don't validate some people's beliefs, they can't handle it.
 

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Welcome back!!!
Thanks boo :p

A lot of people have very frail grips on the views that define their identities. This makes them hyper defensive when someone challenges their belief system.

In other words.. when you don't validate some people's beliefs, they can't handle it.
100% truth and I've been reading some of your other commentary, I think you have held this place down brother! You've been having real, intelligent, logic based, market discussions, which paints a picture of REALITY rather than promoting "positive affirmations".

People often label me as too negative, I honestly believe I'm just a realist. The problem is that when it comes to our current dating market, there's not too many POSITIVE things to say about it.

Let's face it.......Social Media, texting, and online dating have destroyed the LTR market over the last couple of years, but have created a BOOMING Short Term Relationship/ONS market. We are now operating in a Great Depression when it comes to the LTR side of the market, but we are literally in a BOOMING market on the One Night Stand/Short-Term Relationship side.

As a result, if you are a guy that has his Looks, Finances, and Personality together.....you will have a lot of success building short-term plates and ONS. However, you will likely struggle finding quality LTRs and that's just because the market has changed.
 

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@Tenacity the reason is because you were giving off elliot rodgers vibes and thats just not cool. Obviously you have good points but no one here should be at the point of violence because of any female reasons.
My rant commentary was against the forum's rules and I completely understand that. What I don't understand, is why members like you are on this campaign to ban people you don't agree with? I've noticed that you did the same to Big Neil, when you could have easily just put Big Neil on Ignore.

Wr are supposed to be dj's, unfazable smooth players. Don juans.
Well, I don't know who is making up these rules, but Tenacity is a human being. Tenacity has strengths, weaknesses, high points, low points, things he likes, things he doesn't like, and YES....sometimes I lose my cool.

Sorry, I'm a human being. I'm not a cartoon character "Alpha Male" that is always smooth, in control, and nothing (literally nothing) bothers him. I honestly don't think ANY human being in America fits this description you've laid out. The only place I've seen this "person" you've described is in cartoons, movies, and on the World Wrestling Federation (entertainment).

Not some corny pissed off i hate girls type losers and you were crossing into dangerous territory with your points of view and ranting. I hope youve grown passed this an stop blaming women for your own downfalls.
- Number one, why does being pissed off at women make a man a loser?

- Number two, what downfalls are you referring to? I'm actually of the mentality of Cola in this post here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/if-im-high-value-why-should-i.243343/#post-2470928. I have ALL of my shyt together and the vast majority of women I run into are struggling in some major area. In all truth of the matter, I am the PRIZE that this forum talks about, but the women left on the market aren't honestly worth much more than the "box" in between their legs. That's not my fault....that's the failure of women.
 

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My rant commentary was against the forum's rules and I completely understand that. What I don't understand, is why members like you are on this campaign to ban people you don't agree with? I've noticed that you did the same to Big Neil, when you could have easily just put Big Neil on Ignore.



Well, I don't know who is making up these rules, but Tenacity is a human being. Tenacity has strengths, weaknesses, high points, low points, things he likes, things he doesn't like, and YES....sometimes I lose my cool.

Sorry, I'm a human being. I'm not a cartoon character "Alpha Male" that is always smooth, in control, and nothing (literally nothing) bothers him. I honestly don't think ANY human being in America fits this description you've laid out. The only place I've seen this "person" you've described is in cartoons, movies, and on the World Wrestling Federation (entertainment).



- Number one, why does being pissed off at women make a man a loser?

- Number two, what downfalls are you referring to? I'm actually of the mentality of Cola in this post here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/if-im-high-value-why-should-i.243343/#post-2470928. I have ALL of my shyt together and the vast majority of women I run into are struggling in some major area. In all truth of the matter, I am the PRIZE that this forum talks about, but the women left on the market aren't honestly worth much more than the "box" in between their legs. That's not my fault....that's the failure of women.

Yeah he wanted to ban me too lol
 

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My rant commentary was against the forum's rules and I completely understand that. What I don't understand, is why members like you are on this campaign to ban people you don't agree with? I've noticed that you did the same to Big Neil, when you could have easily just put Big Neil on Ignore.



Well, I don't know who is making up these rules, but Tenacity is a human being. Tenacity has strengths, weaknesses, high points, low points, things he likes, things he doesn't like, and YES....sometimes I lose my cool.

Sorry, I'm a human being. I'm not a cartoon character "Alpha Male" that is always smooth, in control, and nothing (literally nothing) bothers him. I honestly don't think ANY human being in America fits this description you've laid out. The only place I've seen this "person" you've described is in cartoons, movies, and on the World Wrestling Federation (entertainment).



- Number one, why does being pissed off at women make a man a loser?

- Number two, what downfalls are you referring to? I'm actually of the mentality of Cola in this post here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/if-im-high-value-why-should-i.243343/#post-2470928. I have ALL of my shyt together and the vast majority of women I run into are struggling in some major area. In all truth of the matter, I am the PRIZE that this forum talks about, but the women left on the market aren't honestly worth much more than the "box" in between their legs. That's not my fault....that's the failure of women.

Im not trying to get people banned who i dont agree with i think certain posters are a cancer to this forum and should be removed period. And obviously the mods agreed. I didnt get bigneil banned, he got himself banned and thats a fact, jack. Idiots tend to weed themselves out.

As for you, you think you got all your chit together but that superficial chit doesnt matter. You think your special because you workout, have a job, and an apt ot whatever. Thats surface level basic chit on my eyes. You should be striving for true greatness ib my opinion. You say you got all yout chit together, generically you do perhaps..but your mental is still fkedm Maybe you should look into stoicism if you find yourself being reactionary to your emotions or being obssessive about certain negative thoughts you reaccuringly have.
 

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Im not trying to get people banned who i dont agree with i think certain posters are a cancer to this forum and should be removed period. And obviously the mods agreed. I didnt get bigneil banned, he got himself banned and thats a fact, jack. Idiots tend to weed themselves out.
Sir, I must remind you, that to be banned from Sosuave does not mean you're an idiot. What it means is that you violated rules set out by the site's administer, rules that from time-to-time are broken unintentionally. I don't want to speak for @bigneil but he seemed to be doing well for himself in life financially and "idiots" don't get to that level.

As for you, you think you got all your chit together but that superficial chit doesnt matter. You think your special because you workout, have a job, and an apt ot whatever. Thats surface level basic chit on my eyes.
You are sounding like a hater, however, if money doesn't matter, do you mind if I have your money? You could shoot it over via check, Paypal, ACH, or wire.
 

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I think that my fundamental problem with you over the years has been that you have no love for this game, whatsoever.
You're actually right Deesade for a couple of reasons:

- Number one, I believe that men who waste their time, energy, and talent playing the "seduction" game are just delimiting the potential of their own lives.

- Number two, I believe that the seduction game in and of itself, isn't even required if you have your Looks, Finances, and Personality together. Basically, if a woman finds you attractive, I don't think you need GAME (aka techniques).

- Number three, you love cold approaching and I think it's a significant waste of time considering that there's much more faster methods to build up a steady form of plates today. Cold approaching takes too much time out of the day that can be better utilized elsewhere.

This is because deep down you are just a pissed off white knight.
I wouldn't say deep down I'm a pissed off white knight. I am PISSED deep down though....that's for sure. I think my frustration comes with the fact that I have reached a certain level in life through making massive investments in myself to where I have no issues getting women.......but the problem is that women as a whole have NOT made the same level of quality investments in themselves.

Notice that even on this forum, we tell guys to "self-improve, self-improve, self-improve"......but we never point out the FACT that women are not making this level of investment into "self-improvement" for us. With women, their mentality is "take it or leave it".
 

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Welcome back,

Your writing looks more mature, more held.... hopefully it will be the same in 2-3 weeks.

I'll add, like Deesade, cause I believe we have the same view of you...

You write alot of good stuff and realist things.

However, it's plagued by this inner anger (which so far in your writing isn't showing but you still keep your ground)

You might be High Value and have your stuff together.... but Anger is a proof that inside you ain't together.... and girls smells is MILES AWAY.... so if you wonder why quality doesnt exist.... it's because of your anger

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.... you have every thing in order in the ''society'' but your ''inner'' game has anger... so you attract people who are attracted to anger... and well they toxic...

It actually kills your ''highvalue''....

Work on it... and you'll have a great life... if that's what you really want.... also if you think your market area is weak.... just move to another location... it might improve your prospect... but unless you solve the inner game... well your issues will follow you

Looking forward to see positive and productive wisdom from you. And more: Improvement
 

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Welcome back,

Your writing looks more mature, more held.... hopefully it will be the same in 2-3 weeks.

I'll add, like Deesade, cause I believe we have the same view of you...

You write alot of good stuff and realist things.

However, it's plagued by this inner anger (which so far in your writing isn't showing but you still keep your ground)

You might be High Value and have your stuff together.... but Anger is a proof that inside you ain't together.... and girls smells is MILES AWAY.... so if you wonder why quality doesnt exist.... it's because of your anger

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.... you have every thing in order in the ''society'' but your ''inner'' game has anger... so you attract people who are attracted to anger... and well they toxic...

It actually kills your ''highvalue''....

Work on it... and you'll have a great life... if that's what you really want.... also if you think your market area is weak.... just move to another location... it might improve your prospect... but unless you solve the inner game... well your issues will follow you

Looking forward to see positive and productive wisdom from you. And more: Improvement
No. YOU sir are actually one of the reasons I was banned. Remember when you said you were adding me to your "Ignore List" and I responded saying that I didn't care that you were adding me to your (insert vulgar word here) Ignore List? Well, that was one of the posts referenced by the Moderator (in addition to my rant thread) for justification of my ban.

As a result, I'm asking you to stay committed to your declaration to have me on Ignore. Stop responding to my threads, stop responding to me, and put me on your Ignore List. You have announced now 3 or 4 times that you were doing it....so why are you still responding to any thread about Tenacity? This is the type of stuff that makes NO SENSE.
 

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#1 - you are playing the game whether you like it or not. Better to do it self-aware, than not. You don't even seem self-aware to your own game sometimes.
When I refer to GAME, I'm talking about using various techniques and tactics. I'm talking about analyzing what you're going to say and how you're going to say it. That to me is a waste of time and energy.

#2 - You seem to only be focusing on pulling women. How long was your longest ltr, mate? It's not like we just suddenly stick our feet up for that - just go and make money to keep her happy, or something.
I've already explained that the LTR market is in a Great Depression

#3 - Cold approaching has intrinsic value in the process itself, which something like online dating doesn't.
Cold approaching women is a waste of time in my opinion. You disagree....that's fine.

I do think that you are a pissed off white knight, and I mean that with no sort of insult. Your posts are entirely based around your soul mate myth being shat upon.
Well, you should be entitled to your own opinion. You think I'm a pissed off white knight, I disagree. Now you must make the decision to continue to read Tenacity's commentary (which you believe is coming from a pissed off white knight) or NOT.

I agree with this. Men tend to look for ways to improve, whilst the average western woman tends to look for any excuse not to.

But that's outside your influence. Why keep worrying about things that are outside of your influence?
That's like telling an American (that directly doesn't control what goes on in the Government), why continue to worry about what the Government is doing, what laws they are passing, what freedoms they are taking away, what taxes they are imposing on us next, what regulations are they increasing, etc.

The arguments you guys make just don't make sense to me most of the time. But to answer your question, the reason I "worry about it", it because I have to LIVE with it Deesade. I have to live, operate, work with, etc......WOMEN....that I believe are day by day getting more out of control.
 

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My beef with you Tenacity is that for all the problems you used to list out with regard to dealing with the women you were seeing and how you considered them all trash, the guys here on this site offered good advice. You didn't take it or ignored it or even crapped all over the advice given.

Some time goes by, then you'd come back griping more about the same thing. Then you'd say (essentially) that every single woman is trash and there is no hope for men.

Why post sh!t like that, because it is sh!t, saying essentially the world is ending and there is no hope? You offer no alternative solutions if you think the advice given is crap. New people coming to this site honestly searching for real advice because they need help could easily stumble across this and become jaded like you.
 

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My beef with you Tenacity is that for all the problems you used to list out with regard to dealing with the women you were seeing and how you considered them all trash, the guys here on this site offered good advice. You didn't take it or ignored it or even crapped all over the advice given.
What "advice" was given besides moving out of Michigan? And when I was offered this advice and provided information that guys across the country are having the same problems (including the places you guys wanted me to move to)......I heard crickets?

I will await your answer.

You offer no alternative solutions
I have offered solutions and recommendations. I said do not do any legal relations with women and if you MUST do it, be very careful, screen, and get a very good attorney involved early. I also said that you should fix your Looks, Personality, and Finances as that's what makes you attractive.......this allows you to enjoy the booming One Night Stand/Short Term Relationship market, even though you might have issues finding a quality LTR as that market is in a Great Depression.

New people coming to this site honestly searching for real advice because they need help could easily stumble across this and become jaded like you.
Right, "Tenacity" is the problem......rather than:

- The chick who just dumped him because she wanted to be with some loser fresh out of jail

- The chick who is taking him through the ringer in the Family Court

- The chick who refuses to let him see his kids

- The chick who is collecting lifetime alimony from him

- The chick who just took a large divorce settlement from him, setting him back financially

- The chick who just slapped a fake domestic violence charge on him

- The chick who seemed interested and then FLAKED out of the blue, randomly, at the 11th hour

Yes, "Tenacity" is the reason the guy is jaded, rather than the actual real-life problems he is dealing with from women of this market.
 

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What "advice" was given besides moving out of Michigan? And when I was offered this advice and provided information that guys across the country are having the same problems (including the places you guys wanted me to move to)......I heard crickets?

I will await your answer.



I have offered solutions and recommendations. I said do not do any legal relations with women and if you MUST do it, be very careful, screen, and get a very good attorney involved early. I also said that you should fix your Looks, Personality, and Finances as that's what makes you attractive.......this allows you to enjoy the booming One Night Stand/Short Term Relationship market, even though you might have issues finding a quality LTR as that market is in a Great Depression.



Right, "Tenacity" is the problem......rather than:

- The chick who just dumped him because she wanted to be with some loser fresh out of jail

- The chick who is taking him through the ringer in the Family Court

- The chick who refuses to let him see his kids

- The chick who is collecting lifetime alimony from him

- The chick who just took a large divorce settlement from him, setting him back financially

- The chick who just slapped a fake domestic violence charge on him

- The chick who seemed interested and then FLAKED out of the blue, randomly, at the 11th hour

Yes, "Tenacity" is the reason the guy is jaded, rather than the actual real-life problems he is dealing with from women of this market.
Tenacity is back and he's kicking azz and taking names.

All you little undercover "MGTOW" posers posing as DJ's get in line and stop the flip flopping. We see you.
 

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you are playing the game whether you like it or not. Better to do it self-aware, than not.
I have always found it "fascinating" the percentage of men who are unaware of the game,some of them you can tell till you are blue in the face and the veil still will not lift from their eyes.
 

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I have always found it "fascinating" the percentage of men who are unaware of the game,some of them you can tell till you are blue in the face and the veil still will not lift from their eyes.
Probably because they still get laid without needing to feel good about themselves based on some cult religion of nonsense.
 

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Probably because they still get laid without needing to feel good about themselves based on some cult religion of nonsense.
Why did you join the forum Ducksauce?
 

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Not to be part of a cult religion for autists. Did you?
22.1% I wanted to find out about what a vagina is.
77.9% I wanted to join a cult.

if you joined a forum not to be part of it's cult religion, then that's a bit odd. I think you're playing hard to get.
 

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......if you joined a forum not to be part of it's cult religion, then that's a bit odd.
So is this site about becoming a Don Juan then, or not? Because last I checked (based on the definition) a Don Juan is his OWN man, not a member of some "group" or "cult".
 
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