Amused Mastery

[MrJack]

@Fruitbat maybe you said something that made her minorly mad at you? Like why would she say "why did you even bring me?"

Either way who cares you got what you wanted later that night so you obviously had the right reactions to her (bipolarness?)

In my case with the girl I went to the movies with she was just being a drunk bimbo and seeing what she could get away with, with me. She quickly realized her games didn't phase me.

In your case she was probs doing the same and she saw that it didn't phase you so we both ended up with the same outcome... a polished rocket

 

[Roober]

Great example! This is something I struggle with mightily. When my current lady gets mad for whatever, I try to do this and it is rough. But when I do, it smoothes over sooooo quickly and nicely. I would always just shutdown and get mad too in previous relationships. The key though is nonchalance and just... Keep... Messing... With her.

If you guys haven't read "the way of the superior man", pick it up. He breaks this down well.

For me, I still need loads of practice at it as it is competely against how I handled these situations the last 35 years. Easy to think about, hard to practice.

 

[CMNILS87]

I.....just can't....must only be guys like you who can get women with 0 problems. Please tell me how to find these amazing, hastle free women, or perhaps I'm just not man enough to.

I'm just saying a new GF should be having so much fun with you and you guys should be joking 24/7 and goofing off with sex jokes and such. Even a new GF would be saving face and not being a little ***** while out on a date. You did well with the mastery, but she shouldn't be in a bad mood like that on s hike and pouting. That stuff should be limited to bedroom talk after sex.

(What you should have done is took her behind a bush and banged her brsins out quick). You'd be surprised what a quick bang does to a chicks mood. I still stand by my first response. My girl isn't perfect, but she'll bring stuff up like a bad roommate or bad stuff at work bothering her while we're cuddling or what not, never in the public eye.

 

[Fruitbat]

Yeah actually those are all great male icons to learn from. It seems like you take after pee wee herman, richard simmons, and a little bit of rosie odonnel.

Oh, and arent you the guy whos foreign girlfriend and her family had your bank info and used it for sketchy banking practices? Lol dude you really are clueless arent you.

Well I don't know who any of those people are so that's lost on me.

Dig away all you want, all of that was cleared up following a bank investigation but continue to dig you sour, sad little man.

 

[Julian]

Well I don't know who any of those people are so that's lost on me.

Dig away all you want, all of that was cleared up following a bank investigation but continue to dig you sour, sad little man.

lol what your doing right now is projecting your own insecurities online and at me. you come to a forum and ask for peoples opinions on your situation, and when someone is dropping redpill truth bombs on you and it doesnt fit your narrative you get defensive and decide to respond with sarcastic and petty insults, much like a very emotionally based person who reacts on their own hormonal deficiencies. typically low testosterone and high in estrogen. i guess that comes with being a flying "fruit".

 

[Fruitbat]

lol what your doing right now is projecting your own insecurities online and at me. you come to a forum and ask for peoples opinions on your situation, and when someone is dropping redpill truth bombs on you and it doesnt fit your narrative you get defensive and decide to respond with sarcastic and petty insults, much like a very emotionally based person who reacts on their own hormonal deficiencies. typically low testosterone and high in estrogen. i guess that comes with being a flying "fruit".

Oh, hitting me where it hurts.....my hormone levels and online avatar. Ouch.

Keep dropping them red pill truth bombs....and your pop-psychology, and what appears to be now, hormone testing, via a computer screen.

If you didn't come into this discussion with this attitude, then perhaps this could have been a grown up discussion with comradeship and spirit of mutual fellowship as men. I think you're still stuck waving your penis at things so I'll leave you be until you reach adulthood. You don't need to prove anything if you have it, son!

If you observe the track of this conversation, your initial gambit was provocative and confrontational right from the off. If you actually want to get on in life, you have to realise that other people do not take being lectured. You're going to find these situations a lot with this attitude. Nobody every wants to believe they are deficient or wrong about anything, and getting personal and rude with people, regardless of whether you, I, your mother or the gatepost think you're right, is never going to win anyone over. I don't recall ever being rude to you or cutting you down. It's basic social skills and courtesy. If you think others will roll over and accept your opinion as fact, you have some nasty surprises in store in life.

 

[Julian]

Oh, hitting me where it hurts.....my hormone levels and online avatar. Ouch.

Keep dropping them red pill truth bombs....and your pop-psychology, and what appears to be now, hormone testing, via a computer screen.

If you didn't come into this discussion with this attitude, then perhaps this could have been a grown up discussion with comradeship and spirit of mutual fellowship as men. I think you're still stuck waving your penis at things so I'll leave you be until you reach adulthood. You don't need to prove anything if you have it, son!

If you havent noticed its a dog eat dog world. Im not here to stand in mutual circlejerkship like you are apparently. My prerogative is the golden rule so if you come at me sideways dont expect to receive any respect as a man because you dont fit that category based on your behavior. Maybe you didnt like the tone of my post? well guess what I really dont care about sugar coating my thoughts on here. no where did i insult you at all. if you wanted to be an adult you could simply respond to the points you dont agree with, instead of making some snarky passive aggressive beta male leftist liberal comment. Infact dont even respond to this because honestly im done with you.

 

[Fruitbat]

If you havent noticed its a dog eat dog world. Im not here to stand in mutual circlejerkship like you are apparently. My prerogative is the golden rule so if you come at me sideways dont expect to receive any respect as a man because you dont fit that category based on your behavior. Maybe you didnt like the tone of my post? well guess what I really dont care about sugar coating my thoughts on here. no where did i insult you at all. if you wanted to be an adult you could simply respond to the points you dont agree with, instead of making some snarky passive aggressive beta male leftist liberal comment. Infact dont even respond to this because honestly im done with you.

I'll just leave this to hang because it says more than I ever could.

 

[Fruitbat]

Gezzus you guys wtf. Its only a girl man. Lol
And dogs return to their own vomit.

Teenage boys who've read a few threads on "the red pill" need to be schooled in some manners.

 

[Fruitbat]

Well fruitbat some ppl dont know how to comprehend what they read. Aka DJ material because if they did there would be less emotional girly meltdowns in here.
A small certain percentage actually get it. The know things others do not because there state and self control is worthy.

This is true and I know who I listen to, and who I don't. I post about 2 threads a week on stuff, and there are always a few who just dissect everything with a view to saying "Huh! I'd never tolerate xyz" "I don't need to do this because I'm like xyz" "Your a loser for doing this, I would do xyz"

There is a BIG difference between constructive advice and egotism. I couldn't really care if I come off butthurth here, I don't buy having a "frame" for an online forum. This is one of the few places you don't have a frame.

Bottom line is, it puts me and (I assume) others off asking for help or sharing shyt. If it's just about putting yourself out there as some guru and telling oneself your own BS, what's the point? I come here to learn. One upmanship is stupid as hell.

 

[ubercat]

Totally agree with that. I keep telling guys let your weaknesses and stupidity show here. Until you get to a stage you're comfortable with you should always be working on sticking points. So you posted a field report where you are asking for some perspectives on possible mistakes you might have made. Now of course because you are focusing in on your weaknesses it looks like you have crap game. So what we all have strengths and weaknesses which are specific to us. And then of course some Alpha douche will lay into you on the thread. Ignore them a couple of experienced guys will always wander past and you'll get some good info.

 

[guru1000]

I'm sure amused mastery is a good skill in an LTR, but within the screening phase (< 3 mos.), any seemly unwarranted behavior should be dealt with strictly. This is not relationship maintenance. Rather, she is on trial. The precedence you set in the beginning will direct future behavior.

 

[ubercat]

If it was a euro girl I'd agree. Asian girls who haven't been over how long are normally pretty boyfriend centred. So as I said I'd see this more along the lines of s*** testing before she adopts that girlfriend role totally. But yes if the level or frequency of s*** testing goes up I'd certainly withdraw.

The other option of course if she cuts up rough is to downgrade her to plate and leverage the social capital of being seen with a hot chick to get some side chicks going. It's modern times I'm sure you've got plenty of pics.

 

[Fruitbat]

Well, sadly I did observe a push notification on her phone from her email with some woman messaging her about being sorry about "the man who broke her heart" in the first few lines.

Could have been from months ago, could have been from yesterday. Could have been a question about somethig related to us but referencing her history.

Mulled over a lot of things regarding this but the fact she told me/showed me when said dude has been in touch with her and let me message the guy telling him she had a BF (!!), I've just let it go. What can I do? "How dare you still be heartbroken!" I can't win by confronting that. I considered breaking up with her or cancelling our next date, but why? I've been heartbroken over girls and this wouldn't change the focus. She's been very good generally to me, sechs regular, spends a lot of time with me, mainlyv loving. I can't punish her for this. I just decided to ignore it and be honest enough to know that people do get heartbroken and she might not even still liove the guy. I hate chicks who cut me up once I am with someone new.

I have, however, started investing a little less. We have a social function coming up, I am half tempted to cancel saying that I am not sure if she is ready but she would probably get the idea I saw that message as she knew I was next to her phone and she suspeted I saw it.

Bottom line is other than a few shyt tests, everything is peachy. I know nexting might be an option to wrestle frame back, but given she has a flock of men who follow her, given shes pretty, asian and mid 20s, I could also just give her licence to explore other options when I am in pole position. All her weekends and time is with me, she is off online sites. Why risk all this?

 

[MrJack]

Well, sadly I did observe a push notification on her phone from her email with some woman messaging her about being sorry about "the man who broke her heart" in the first few lines.

Could have been from months ago, could have been from yesterday. Could have been a question about somethig related to us but referencing her history.

Mulled over a lot of things regarding this but the fact she told me/showed me when said dude has been in touch with her and let me message the guy telling him she had a BF (!!), I've just let it go. What can I do? "How dare you still be heartbroken!" I can't win by confronting that. I considered breaking up with her or cancelling our next date, but why? I've been heartbroken over girls and this wouldn't change the focus. She's been very good generally to me, sechs regular, spends a lot of time with me, mainlyv loving. I can't punish her for this. I just decided to ignore it and be honest enough to know that people do get heartbroken and she might not even still liove the guy. I hate chicks who cut me up once I am with someone new.

I have, however, started investing a little less. We have a social function coming up, I am half tempted to cancel saying that I am not sure if she is ready but she would probably get the idea I saw that message as she knew I was next to her phone and she suspeted I saw it.

Yea can't really change her heart brokenness. But you guys have been dating for 6-7 weeks and if she received a text/email notification from her friend, they're obviously talking about it currently and she probs still has feelings for him.

I only say that because it's happened to me in the past and I was the "void filler" for the time being until she decided to drop me and run back to Chad Thundercock.

Part of me thinks she wanted to make him jealous by saying she has a bf and also wanted to shyt test you at the same time to see how you'd react to her being in contact with him. Get two birds stoned at once, if you will.

Your girl seems more open with you and less cold than mine was though. I was living in beta fantasy land back then and ignored my gut.

I think you'll be fine.

 

[Fruitbat]

Yea can't really change her heart brokenness. But you guys have been dating for 6-7 weeks and if she received a text/email notification from her friend, they're obviously talking about it currently and she probs still has feelings for him.

I only say that because it's happened to me in the past and I was the "void filler" for the time being until she decided to drop me and run back to Chad Thundercock.

Part of me thinks she wanted to make him jealous by saying she has a bf and also wanted to shyt test you at the same time to see how you'd react to her being in contact with him. Get two birds stoned at once, if you will.

Your girl seems more open with you and less cold than mine was though. I was living in beta fantasy land back then and ignored my gut.

I think you'll be fine.

Thanks mate. To be fair, right off the bat she told me she was hurt, plus it was my idea to tell the dude she had a BF. She had a couple of chats with him before but I observed her being sterile and cold.

The dude basically said she was a nasty visa hunter so I'm not sure what she feels. She might feel like I did when I got gamed for attention, not heartbroken at her, but at the situations and being a sucker.

Whatever happens, I have limited control. Just stick to the basics and don't develop oneitus.

There's an outside chance she's pregnant anyway :-( Ducks for cover.

 

[ubercat]

Well that might not b a bad thing. She and u r the right respective ages. And Asian girls really aren't keen on being single mothers.

The downs would b make or break for a just budding relationship. And the family would rally round which would put in deep in cross cultural no man s land. And believe me the subject of marriage will come up real fast.

But don't freak. Remember the 10 pound POMEs and the war brides. People have made a go of far worse deals. Maybe she's keen on u and the visa and has taken action.

I ve got a mate who s married to a Thai girl. Lots of dramas working out an international life. But they came through and sem very happy.

 

[Fruitbat]

Well that might not b a bad thing. She and u r the right respective ages. And Asian girls really aren't keen on being single mothers.

The downs would b make or break for a just budding relationship. And the family would rally round which would put in deep in cross cultural no man s land. And believe me the subject of marriage will come up real fast.

But don't freak. Remember the 10 pound POMEs and the war brides. People have made a go of far worse deals. Maybe she's keen on u and the visa and has taken action.

I ve got a mate who s married to a Thai girl. Lots of dramas working out an international life. But they came through and sem very happy.

Absurdly beta of me but I feel on this page too. She has said she wanted to prepare for 6 months before having kids but she wasn't running for the morning after pill. It was MY fault, I just cannot use condoms these days and we are working on old fashioned methods, but I just couldn't hold back.

We both want them. We were at an unlikely part in her cycle so I think we both kinda thought if nature wants it, let it happen.

I'm tired of the flange carosel to be honest and starting over. I've wanted kids since I was 25. She DEF seems good mother material, and as you've said, only the worst bits are published here. You don't post on SS like "hey, she cooked me dinner and blew me again!"

I've been happier with her, less shyt and hastle, than with any of my previous girls, no contest. She's just a bit young hence silly games....and she looks, and acts, younger than she is, seems like she was mollycoddled a bit but not entitled. Just acts more like a teenager than a woman of 24.

Without being crude, I had no fapped for like a week before we did it that night and the dose she had was enormous. Teaspoon it wasn't.

The Gods will decide.