Women prefer this to sex

[TheMonkeyKing]

That's funny. I've offered girls everything to have sex with them and they have still said no. You would think if it was a myth they would say yes.

With the greatest of respect, maybe whatever you were 'offering' wasn't what they were looking for. And that's essentially the point of my entire previous post.

What do you mean "a woman trying to fck a weak
man?" Woman don't try to do anything except manipulate the man to get resources from him. Sex is their bargaining chip. That's it.

What I actually meant was 'a woman trying to become aroused by a weak man....'

A very pessimistic outlook there all the same. Again, that's the point. Desirable men are in the driving seat with women. There's no bargaining involved. Sex happens as and when he pleases. If anything, a desirable man gets more investment than he gives. Take that as the voice of experience talking.

Only weak men allow themselves to be manipulated. By the very virtue of being manipulated, he proves his weakness in comparison to other stronger specimens. Being manipulated is a direct result of being weak.

How else do you enter the frame? Aren't women just good for sex and babies?

You never enter a woman's frame from the point of view of needing or even wanting something from her. Rarely if ever at all, in fact. She enters yours and you end up seducing her. Seducing a woman who is in your frame and entering a woman's frame in order to pull her are two competing approaches. And I have always favoured the former over the latter.

Again a very pessimistic outlook. If that's the way you view women, you're very unlikely to reach your mating potential.

 

[Dash Riprock]

I agree, but I dont think a man needs to be uncertaint abouth anything. we want the truth

Yes, but too much certainty leads to boredom and a need for variety; personally and professionally.

 

[Trump]

With the greatest of respect, maybe whatever you were 'offering' wasn't what they were looking for. And that's essentially the point of my entire previous post.

OK fair enough. But then if you can't say "the idea that women don't like sex as much as men is a myth." You have to preface it with "as long as you are offering use for them."

Desirable men are in the driving seat with women. There's no bargaining involved. Sex happens as and when he pleases. If anything, a desirable man gets more investment than he gives. Take that as the voice of experience talking.

Bro it's stuff like this that confuses. A new guy comes in and thinks "ok, SS tells me to be "desirable". Let me get in shape, get a haircut, get a job, dress well, get rich, not take crap. Where is the woman that SS promised me, that I can sex at my whim in any position?" Then they get angry and frustrated that the woman doesn't care 2 cents that he has done all that work.

Being desirable has nothing to do with getting women. It's not a cause and effect issue. I know Doctors, Surgeons, Top musicians, and Hollywood Directors that asked others to set them up, they are as "desirable" as it gets. It's great to be those professions, but it has nothing to do with sex and women.

If you have use for a woman, she will have sex with you. What you are describing is not real life. It's Hollywood Movies.

Only weak men allow themselves to be manipulated. By the very virtue of being manipulated, he proves his weakness in comparison to other stronger specimens. Being manipulated is a direct result of being weak.

Agree. But can't eliminate all risk in life.

You never enter a woman's frame from the point of view of needing or even wanting something from her. Rarely if ever at all, in fact. She enters yours and you end up seducing her. Seducing a woman who is in your frame and entering a woman's frame in order to pull her are two competing approaches. And I have always favoured the former over the latter.

I suppose. If you are smooth enough it can easily work the other way too.

Let me ask this: what do you do and how tall are you that you have good looking women begging and crying to give you sex?

 

[Dingo]

Another reason why men go find love elsewhere...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I view it as an act of domination and punishment...and use my c0ck, fingers, tongue and hands as the weapons of choice, hahaha

I was saying taking turns, hitting the accelerator, braking real hard, drifting, etc... LOL. I like to max their pleasure out and mines too. Not trying to torture no one!

To me the best sex is better than any drug ever.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

OK fair enough. But then if you can't say "the idea that women don't like sex as much as men is a myth." You have to preface it with "as long as you are offering use for them."

What you're offering them is their own desire. Nothing more nothing less. Yes, under certain circumstances, sex is an exchange - i.e the type of sex you are obsessing over. But sex can also JUST be a fulfillment of mutual desire. You don't really seem to grasp this concept.

If you are smooth enough it can easily work the other way too.

True enough.

what do you do and how tall are you

I earn an average wage and am slightly above average in height. That doesn't mean I'm 100% successful though.

Being desirable has nothing to do with getting women. It's not a cause and effect issue. I know Doctors, Surgeons, Top musicians, and Hollywood Directors that asked others to set them up, they are as "desirable" as it gets.

My friend if this really is your mindset, I can't really help you. It troubles me that your thought process works this way. It's like the polar opposite mentality of what is going to get you laid. What someone does for a living is only one aspect of their desirability. What reading have you done? Have you even studied the DJB?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Most women actually prefer and get off from arguing as opposed to having sex.

It satisfies their need for emotional drama in ways that sex can't.

That's like saying humans prefer air to water, since we breathe more than we drink, and we seem to be much more worried about not breathing than not drinking.

 

[Trump]

What you're offering them is their own desire. Nothing more nothing less. Yes, under certain circumstances, sex is an exchange - i.e the type of sex you are obsessing over. But sex can also JUST be a fulfillment of mutual desire. You don't really seem to grasp this concept.

I guess I don't.

I don't agree sex is a fulfillment of mutual desire. The man has the desire. But the woman is not having sex unless she gets something out of it. What girl in her right mind would? Her trump card, her ace in the hole, her one thing she can leverage out to the max, she is going give up easily because of desire? She would have to be dumbest girl in the world.

Suppose the most desirable guy took out an attractive girl because he really liked her. She knew he wasn't going anywhere because how much he liked her. Why would she give up sex on the 1st date? She would milk him as much and as far possible until the 10th or until she knew he was going to leave. Then she would give it up.

Isn't that common sense?

I earn an average wage and am slightly above average in height. That doesn't mean I'm 100% successful though.

You are at an average wage and above in height, yet good looking women are crying because you won't give them enough sex? Come on bro, does that make sense to you?

I can see you speak well, but that won't be enough for a good looking women to give it up. There is something else you are telling us.

My friend if this really is your mindset, I can't really help you. It troubles me that your thought process works this way. It's like the polar opposite mentality of what is going to get you laid. What someone does for a living is only one aspect of their desirability. What reading have you done? Have you even studied the DJB?

I just don't agree with your word "desirable" and sex is "mutual desire." If you change the word "desirable" with "use", we agree.

I have been out with Maxim models and good looking women, so I guess I am doing something right.

 

[Who Dares Win]

She can invite me to go out with her friends and I will provide so much drama and conflict that she will need medications to keep her mental health.

I can troll the sh1t out of them, piss them off, behave like a 90s wrestler, point their weakness and so on...when they push me too much they usually regret it and cry exhausted.

I make it clear from the beginning that if they fvck with me then I fvck with them and there is no limit of holy ground...they know I like it much more than they do.

I also get off from that, if I can have a femnale group of friends to throw stuff at each other after a trolling attack, my brain will come so hard that eroine will do jack&sh1t compared to it.

I'm done trying to reason logically with women, they get me drama I get them trolling.

 

[skinnyguy]

Most women actually prefer and get off from arguing as opposed to having sex.

It satisfies their need for emotional drama in ways that sex can't.

They also get off from instagram likes more than actual co ck

 

[Masculinity]

Most women actually prefer and get off from arguing as opposed to having sex.

It satisfies their need for emotional drama in ways that sex can't.

Phuck these hoes.

 

[sazc]

She can invite me to go out with her friends and I will provide so much drama and conflict that she will need medications to keep her mental health.

I can troll the sh1t out of them, piss them off, behave like a 90s wrestler, point their weakness and so on...when they push me too much they usually regret it and cry exhausted.

I make it clear from the beginning that if they fvck with me then I fvck with them and there is no limit of holy ground...they know I like it much more than they do.

I also get off from that, if I can have a femnale group of friends to throw stuff at each other after a trolling attack, my brain will come so hard that eroine will do jack&sh1t compared to it.

I'm done trying to reason logically with women, they get me drama I get them trolling.

It kinda sounds like you enjoy the drama as well. Why would you choose to stay with a female that is not only dramatic, but that pushes your buttons? and in a way that makes you want to retaliate?

The way you post about it, it's as if you want everyone to believe this is how you maintain frame over the female. but once you allow someone to get you to the point where you want to retaliate, the frame is totally in their hands, they are the ones directing.

This is why it's better to pull back and go NC and/or clearly state your boundaries and what you will and will not tolerate in the relationship. Her level of respect for you, and her clarity on what a healthy relationship is, will be revealed when you make it clear verbally what your standards are.

 

[Urbanyst]

Probably because 95% of guys are terrible at sex.

Sex is not for the woman. Its for the man.

Are you a woman?

Most women actually prefer and get off from arguing as opposed to having sex.

It satisfies their need for emotional drama in ways that sex can't.

That's because most men are so timid and weak around women they get bored out of their minds lol.

 

[sazc]

Sex is not for the woman. Its for the man.

Are you a woman?

Sup @bigneil

 

[Urbanyst]

Sup @bigneil

Lol you think I'm bigneil?

I know women enjoy sex, but guys LIVE for sex. Sex is for us.

Same as men enjoy relationships and marriage, but women LIVE for relationships.

 

[sazc]

Lol you think I'm bigneil?

I know women enjoy sex, but guys LIVE for sex. Sex is for us.

Same as men enjoy relationships and marriage, but women LIVE for relationships.

Lol, that's just exactly something he would say "are you a woman?". Just don't start to call people put by nationally or mention welfare, ok?

 

[sosousage]

Lol, that's just exactly something he would say "are you a woman?". Just don't start to call people put by nationally or mention welfare, ok?

no he would say that we are virgins and are attacking him

 

[Who Dares Win]

It kinda sounds like you enjoy the drama as well. Why would you choose to stay with a female that is not only dramatic, but that pushes your buttons? and in a way that makes you want to retaliate?

The way you post about it, it's as if you want everyone to believe this is how you maintain frame over the female. but once you allow someone to get you to the point where you want to retaliate, the frame is totally in their hands, they are the ones directing.

This is why it's better to pull back and go NC and/or clearly state your boundaries and what you will and will not tolerate in the relationship. Her level of respect for you, and her clarity on what a healthy relationship is, will be revealed when you make it clear verbally what your standards are.

If I had to read your post and guess who was the author I would have undoubdetly said a middle aged woman.

That amount of patronizing, shaming and random blue pilled nonsense while producing nothing useful in such a natural way can hardly come from any other demographics.

Reading your posts got me closer to andropause.

 

[marmel75]

Sex is not for the woman. Its for the man.

Are you a woman?

The simplest way to make your life easier with women is to fvck them better than anyone ever has. Do that and you'll never have to worry about getting laid again in your life. Men should strive for excellence in all endeavors they participate it.

But I guess that's too much work to go from where you are at in the bedroom to actually being good huh?

 

[ubercat]

Hmm not sure about that one. I'd probably put myself in the top 20% because I've had wide experience and bothered to take the time to learn. Hasn't stopped a number of woman walking away because I wasn't on board with their marriage agenda.

In an early plate scenario I can see how that would keep them coming back for more