BetterCallSaul
Master Don Juan
So i finally decided to get off my ass and type this thread up that I've been meaning to post for a while.
Over the past couple months I spent a lot of time reading different red pill type sites that were not SS. Different web sites, different discussion forums, hell even some chat rooms dedicated to red pill. My conclusion is that the manosphere movement that I see to help empower men to act like real men is essentially destroying itself to some extent in the same manner feminism has done in the U.S.
I won't get into a long drawn out post, but I will say that here on SS, we do have a pretty decent collection of guys offering constructive input for the most part whenever new people come here with problems. Sure, we have our arguments amongst us, we b!tch at each other sometimes, get into stupid virtual p!ssing contests on this site....but overall I'd say the majority of the members here do offer good useful criticism on real-life situations that any guy could come across. It's one of the primary reasons I continue to come back and try to stay active.
When I perused these various other sites, one common theme I noticed was that when a new person joined up and asked genuine questions over some problem he was having with a woman, the usually tendency of guys on these sites was dogpile the new person and make him feel like utter sh!t. There are still lots of guys out there who are blue pill through and through and to get them to swallow red pill thinking and tactics is going to take some time. Berating the guy because of how stupid he is, telling him he doesn't earn enough money or doesn't work out enough or is life's ultimate loser isn't constructive. Every single one of these sites I visited you were worthless unless you were pulling in 7 figures annually, regularly on the cover of GQ magazine, dont bang anything less than 9s which happen to be camped outside your front door every single day, and can easily bench 500 pounds.
What became amusing to me was after seeing this type of recurring "advice" being given it was obvious the guys posting this sh!t were total posers. The problem though is that you have guys who are genuinely lost and really do want to learn - they don't know they're receiving bad advice from these a$$holes. These guys also think that there is only one way to approach a problem with a woman and be successful: their way.
I'll use @bigneil as an example because everyone knows him and he can be an interesting character. I don't always agree with his methods, which does include picking up women at strip clubs. However based on the results he has posted of the women he pulls, I cannot argue with his success. So if I were one of these a$$holes on the other sites I mentioned, I would be sitting here in full keyboard commando fashion telling Neil "You're a loser picking up women in a strip club. You gotta go out and daygame/nightgame to meet the REAL women". However, Neil posts pics of his results and it works for him.
Let's translate this for a second.
Neil plays basketball game.
Some a$$hole internet poser plays football game.
Said poser then posts "Neil you suck because you play basketball game; you gotta play football game".
The thing is though that Neil's game actually works for him, and if it works for him and he's happy with the results, who f*cking cares?
These manosphere a$$holes who live on these forums aren't helping anyone. There are a lot of times too that I read that by doing a certain activity, you aren't meeting "real" women. Certain activity could mean picking up stripper or dating women via online dating apps. These guys will then say you gotta daygame/nightgame. Then I started reading about how that game was weak and you gotta meet more chicks via social circles, and on and on.
I have two big takeaways from this casual research over the past couple months:
1. The collective group we have here on SS is pretty good and maybe it isn't as well known, but I prefer quality myself.
2. Your time is valuable. As a man, this is probably your most important asset. A lot of guys I've noticed get anxious and p!ssed because they got flaked on. Don't worry because it's gonna happen. Usually guys get angry because they have no other plans. You need to have something you can always fall back on to help improve yourself, even if its something mundane like going for a workout that night. However if you generally suck at nightgame and tend to have more success with online, then stick with it for a while especially if it's giving you better results.
We are all here to improve ourselves but I also wouldn't expect someone who has done daygame for 20 years to suddenly show strong ambition toward changing his stripes and go for online/text game.
I hope some of you find this post useful.
Over the past couple months I spent a lot of time reading different red pill type sites that were not SS. Different web sites, different discussion forums, hell even some chat rooms dedicated to red pill. My conclusion is that the manosphere movement that I see to help empower men to act like real men is essentially destroying itself to some extent in the same manner feminism has done in the U.S.
I won't get into a long drawn out post, but I will say that here on SS, we do have a pretty decent collection of guys offering constructive input for the most part whenever new people come here with problems. Sure, we have our arguments amongst us, we b!tch at each other sometimes, get into stupid virtual p!ssing contests on this site....but overall I'd say the majority of the members here do offer good useful criticism on real-life situations that any guy could come across. It's one of the primary reasons I continue to come back and try to stay active.
When I perused these various other sites, one common theme I noticed was that when a new person joined up and asked genuine questions over some problem he was having with a woman, the usually tendency of guys on these sites was dogpile the new person and make him feel like utter sh!t. There are still lots of guys out there who are blue pill through and through and to get them to swallow red pill thinking and tactics is going to take some time. Berating the guy because of how stupid he is, telling him he doesn't earn enough money or doesn't work out enough or is life's ultimate loser isn't constructive. Every single one of these sites I visited you were worthless unless you were pulling in 7 figures annually, regularly on the cover of GQ magazine, dont bang anything less than 9s which happen to be camped outside your front door every single day, and can easily bench 500 pounds.
What became amusing to me was after seeing this type of recurring "advice" being given it was obvious the guys posting this sh!t were total posers. The problem though is that you have guys who are genuinely lost and really do want to learn - they don't know they're receiving bad advice from these a$$holes. These guys also think that there is only one way to approach a problem with a woman and be successful: their way.
I'll use @bigneil as an example because everyone knows him and he can be an interesting character. I don't always agree with his methods, which does include picking up women at strip clubs. However based on the results he has posted of the women he pulls, I cannot argue with his success. So if I were one of these a$$holes on the other sites I mentioned, I would be sitting here in full keyboard commando fashion telling Neil "You're a loser picking up women in a strip club. You gotta go out and daygame/nightgame to meet the REAL women". However, Neil posts pics of his results and it works for him.
Let's translate this for a second.
Neil plays basketball game.
Some a$$hole internet poser plays football game.
Said poser then posts "Neil you suck because you play basketball game; you gotta play football game".
The thing is though that Neil's game actually works for him, and if it works for him and he's happy with the results, who f*cking cares?
These manosphere a$$holes who live on these forums aren't helping anyone. There are a lot of times too that I read that by doing a certain activity, you aren't meeting "real" women. Certain activity could mean picking up stripper or dating women via online dating apps. These guys will then say you gotta daygame/nightgame. Then I started reading about how that game was weak and you gotta meet more chicks via social circles, and on and on.
I have two big takeaways from this casual research over the past couple months:
1. The collective group we have here on SS is pretty good and maybe it isn't as well known, but I prefer quality myself.
2. Your time is valuable. As a man, this is probably your most important asset. A lot of guys I've noticed get anxious and p!ssed because they got flaked on. Don't worry because it's gonna happen. Usually guys get angry because they have no other plans. You need to have something you can always fall back on to help improve yourself, even if its something mundane like going for a workout that night. However if you generally suck at nightgame and tend to have more success with online, then stick with it for a while especially if it's giving you better results.
We are all here to improve ourselves but I also wouldn't expect someone who has done daygame for 20 years to suddenly show strong ambition toward changing his stripes and go for online/text game.
I hope some of you find this post useful.
