Unless you are really hot you are better off not wasting your time on Tinder

[skinnyguy]

I must be smokin hot then since 2015 I have fvcked about 30 Tinder women.

How do we know they aren't ugly? I could get laid off POF and tinder all the time if I had no standards.

 

[Urbanyst]

Another thread about how horrible OLD is lol.

I don't get the hatred everyone has for it on this forum. I enjoy it a lot and get laid off these apps.

I think a lot of guys are just low VALUE or have sh*t text game. Its not that hard to get dates and sex off Tinder and Bumble. Even losers who are not that attractive pull women off these apps. If you're using these apps EXCLUSIVELY to meet women that's pretty stupid. You should be out in the world meeting women the normal way too. But you have nothing to lose by also utilizing Tinder and other apps to add to your rotation of plates.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The funny thing is, the 9's on Tinder are 5's in real life.

Yep, and other OLD sites and Facebook are the same. I've seen a lot of girls with the pics of 9s who are just good at taking pics. Younger girls take selfies constantly, then they post the one out of twenty or so where they look good. Men tend to be the opposite. They take one pic flexing in the mirror and looking creepy. Pictures are important in OLD, and women are better at them than men.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Great obscure references.... Bet 90% of the guys here won't get it... Bravo...

Yep, but they also have wikipedia at their fingertips.

 

[Solomon]

Another thread about how horrible OLD is lol.

I don't get the hatred everyone has for it on this forum. I enjoy it a lot and get laid off these apps.

I think a lot of guys are just low VALUE or have sh*t text game. Its not that hard to get dates and sex off Tinder and Bumble. Even losers who are not that attractive pull women off these apps. If you're using these apps EXCLUSIVELY to meet women that's pretty stupid. You should be out in the world meeting women the normal way too. But you have nothing to lose by also utilizing Tinder and other apps to add to your rotation of plates.

I actually agree with this guy for once, OLD is all about looks and presentation

If most guys where to post their pics here we would know why

A bunch of guys claiming to look like younger Leonardo Di carpo's when they actually look like Matt Forney

 

[Red Legg]

How do we know they aren't ugly? I could get laid off POF and tinder all the time if I had no standards.

They have all been hb7 plus,don't you know? all posters on SS are honest ??

 

[bigneil]

If most guys where to post their pics here we would know why A bunch of guys claiming to look like younger Leonardo Di carpo's when they actually look like Matt Forney

Given that the formally 99-rated women I've posted photos of (the same women who studies show would get 1000 likes on Tinder) have been routinely called 5's, and given how my 6'5" 220 and (demonstrably leaner) physique is called "dad bod" by virgins here, it's no wonder many of these armchair bodybuilders won't dare go public.

@marmel75 this means you, little flexer man.

 

[bigneil]

I get play from HB 8 + waitresses all the time. And no I m not tipping ....

You're not tipping your waitresses??

You know they are still sleeping with the bar manager, correct? Does he pay for it when he gives them a job and then later seduces them? Did Alfred Hitchcock pay the women he seduced on his movie sets? Imagine that... when you hire women for legitimate jobs you have a better chance to seduce them.

Do you have a job, ubercat?

 

[Erik VL]

Great info.

Explanation

• A girl who is a 10 (lower right) will only like a guy who is a 10.
• A girl who is an 8 will only like a guy who is a 9.6.
• A girl who is a 6 will only like a guy who is a 9.2.

Meanwhile

• A guy who is a 6 will like a girl who is a 1.
• A guy who is an 8 will like a girl who is a 2.

Thank you; although I can understand the graph, putting it in numbers like this makes it easier to remember and pass on.

.......
Of course some emotional guys will look at this and assume that women are somehow to blame, because they somehow refuse to lower their standards. However, what this fundamentally shows is that the population of men on the whole actually enable more low value women to have sex/relations etc, than the population of women do of low value men.
.......

Great effortpoast. Looking at this part, as you say later it makes evolutionary sense. But not just for the women. Men going after women of different quality also makes evolutionary sense, since it spreads the man's behavioral genes. So those are the genes we have. (But not only. Men also have the instinct to stay with a woman and raise offspring together, so we have two contradictory instincts. Especially people from colder climates have this instinct, since otherwise the offspring won't survive. But I digress.)

This is why I always have a forgiving tone toward both men's and women's general behavior. Because if it is indeed a general behavior, it is because evolution made it that way. And evolution made it that way because that is what increases survival. That is not something to curse, but simply something to understand.

So, men's eagerness to sleep with whoever will keep driving women online toward the top men. Since they see that they will get offers from all strata it is best to go for the highest. Men would do the same if we got that many offers.

It isn't so much fun for women either, though. They get flooded with messages from not just high-quality men, or low-quality men, but from creeps who all dwell on dating sites. It isn't fun for women to read what creeps write, and know that creeps are looking at their pictures and want to sleep with them. And it all takes time to wade through. Plus, women look for relationships, and it is very hard to see which men seriously want a relationship, and which (the majority) just want to lead them on, sleep with them and then leave.

So, understanding all around, is my advice. Note though: it IS possible to find someone online. In my twenties I had much success with online dating. You just have to send out tons of messages. But even though that is tiring, it takes less time than you'd spend in a night club for the same result.

 

[Solomon]

I find it curious that a lot of guys seem to hold the belief that OLD, social circle, cold approaching, etc. are all completely different things with completely different types of women. That this game is better quality that game, that game yields slvts/hags, this game gets better quality women...


But it's all the same sh1t. That woman we're cold approaching most likely has an OLD profile somewhere, and if you have a healthy social circle, she may very well know someone in it too.

Just to prove this, in just the last hour alone, I came across 3 women on Tinder who are within my social circles. There were 4 or 5 more I came across in just the last few days prior.

I've had experiences where I've gone completely random with cold approaching and ended up finding women who happened to know someone I also knew.

I've drawn women in, instead of approaching them. Still find women with profiles online or share some mutual friends.

lol. It's all the same sh1t. Why shouldn't we find ways to utilize all of it?

Quality just boils down to who we are, how we present ourselves, how well we socialize, interact and explore people in general and how we screen for those people we're looking for. Do it right, and I believe a man will yield a nice piece no matter what process he uses.

I agree with what you say however I have to go by my environment so I gotta play devils advocate and disagree here

#1. I live 20 minutes from some big colleges from my state, when I do Tinder for 18-25 year old it doesn't yield much results, However going into bars/house parties yields more results why? believe it or not the town i live in in 2017 in a small midwestern city tinder is still looked as Taboo. Sure there are college girls on Tinder but it's easier to approach them in person especially being a guy whose 33, most women think I'm 25 in Person. Online unless you gonna have a lot of girls pass you up because of your age unless she is into older men.

1.A The quality is different because the women are hotter and much more feminine since most of them don't use tinder and if they do well usually most of them are ran through chicks

#2 While most women have OLD profiles once again there some that don't I reckon once chicks get out of college most of them will have one, but the top tier chicks in my city don't need tinder. Usually if you see a super hot chick on tinder it's because she is a hoe and the whole town knows it that's why no one in her social circle will wife her up. These college chicks have tons of guys in their social circle or around them no need to use tinder.

#3 The question is how many of those girls did you swipe right too and how many of them are keen to meet up IRL I find that most girls if you have mutual friends tend to swipe left in my experience. However if you were to meet them in person, via social circle you would automatically have an "in" it makes the game easier when your face to face. Able to show your charisma make jokes, and trigger those attraction switches. Online by swiping all they care about is how hot you are

For example
Ever seen an average fella with a hot chick, everyone always assumes the guy is rich but what if he met her through a social circle. The girl would not have giving him any play on tinder. I have seen this scenario play out in real life countless times

 

[Solomon]

I agree with 80% of your post

So, understanding all around, is my advice. Note though: it IS possible to find someone online. In my twenties I had much success with online dating. You just have to send out tons of messages. But even though that is tiring, it takes less time than you'd spend in a night club for the same result.

Disagree depending on the nightclub venue you can meet hundreds of girls in 2-3 hours and get numbers/dates/lays. For sport a buddy and I use to mass approach after 2 hours we would have a dozen numbers between the both of us. I can send out 100 messages online and would be lucky to get back 5 numbers much less a lay

I agree with 80% of your post

It isn't so much fun for women either, though. They get flooded with messages from not just high-quality men, or low-quality men, but from creeps who all dwell on dating sites. It isn't fun for women to read what creeps write, and know that creeps are looking at their pictures and want to sleep with them. And it all takes time to wade through. Plus, women look for relationships, and it is very hard to see which men seriously want a relationship, and which (the majority) just want to lead them on, sleep with them and then leave.

It depends on the app, on tinder and bumblee women get to choose whom they speak with. 90% of women will select a guy on how hot he is first, if a hot guy is creepy so be it but women have the choice . The 2nd part i will agree with but women are idiots thinking that men are looking for a serious on a "hook up" app (which Tinder is)

 

[Urbanyst]

I find it curious that a lot of guys seem to hold the belief that OLD, social circle, cold approaching, etc. are all completely different things with completely different types of women. That this game is better quality that game, that game yields slvts/hags, this game gets better quality women...

But it's all the same sh1t. That woman we're cold approaching most likely has an OLD profile somewhere, and if you have a healthy social circle, she may very well know someone in it too.

Just to prove this, in just the last hour alone, I came across 3 women on Tinder who are within my social circles. There were 4 or 5 more I came across in just the last few days prior.

I've had experiences where I've gone completely random with cold approaching and ended up finding women who happened to know someone I also knew.

I've drawn women in, instead of approaching them. Still find women with profiles online or share some mutual friends.

lol. It's all the same sh1t. Why shouldn't we find ways to utilize all of it?

Quality just boils down to who we are, how we present ourselves, how well we socialize, interact and explore people in general and how we screen for those people we're looking for. Do it right, and I believe a man will yield a nice piece no matter what process he uses.

Exactly.

The market is the market. The top 5% of women who don't "need" OLD are usually women you'll never meet anyway because they are chasing after Ryan Gosling or the CEO of a fortune 500 company lol. Either that, or they're already married to their high school or college sweetheart.

The market is the market. Doesn't matter HOW you meet women.. as long as you meet them.

 

[Solomon]

I believe there are no universal laws in game. Everything, at some point, is going to be subject to exceptions. That's the beauty of discussion rather than mud-slinging. You and I don't really disagree on much, we're just exposing the exceptions.


I stated earlier on page one of this thread that I swipe left on them too, specifically for the reasons you've stated. Social circle is the better "in", especially once you know they are on Tinder, often describe what they're looking for and I know how to find them outside of the platform AND they don't know that I actually know these things about them. It's like cold-approaching women on the outer fringes of your social circle armed with the knowledge of their own interests, desires, etc. from their OLD profile that they don't know you've read. That's almost as golden as her "BFF" telling you exactly what she likes and hates before you meet her. Fish in a barrel.

You know what you're doing mate, glad to see that there some guys on this forum who are winning

Keep us posted on your updates

would be curious to know how you maintain social circles, Im having a heck of a time but than again i am in my 30s

 

[Trump]

https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

Translation from the guy who wrote the article:

"I haven't been able to attract and seduce good looking women online from what I've posted, so I'm going to impose myself and produce some data in my favour to prevent others from even trying.

That way, while I haven't accomplished anything useful, I've prevented others from the chance of having sex and it makes me feel better about myself. If I can't do it, I'm going to do my best to drag down others."

It's a doggy dog world!

 

[El Payaso]

It's a doggy dog world!

The quote you're looking for is dog eat dog.

 

[nismo-4]

The funny thing is, the 9's on Tinder are 5's in real life.

But they're 9's because of beta male attention and desperation!

 

[Who Dares Win]

OK...in the spirit of Savaronela and the Luddites, this calls for a Bonfire of the Vanities!

Smash and burn all smart phones men!

Steve Jobs may you burn in hell!.... I take that back.

Wasnt savonarola or I got the quote wrong?

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Wasnt savonarola or I got the quote wrong?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonfire_of_the_vanities

A bonfire of the vanities (Italian: falò delle vanità) is a burning of objects condemned by authorities as occasions of sin. The phrase usually refers to the bonfire of 7 February 1497, when supporters of the Dominican friar Girolamo Savonarola collected and publicly burned thousands of objects such as cosmetics, art, and books in Florence, Italy, on the Mardi Gras festival.[1] Such bonfires were not invented by Savonarola, but had been a common accompaniment to the outdoor sermons of San Bernardino di Siena in the first half of the century.

The focus of this destruction was nominally on objects that might tempt one to sin, including vanity items such as mirrors, cosmetics, fine dresses, playing cards, and even musical instruments. Other targets included books that were deemed to be immoral, such as works by Boccaccio, and manuscripts of secular songs, as well as artworks, including paintings and sculpture.

 

[MatureDJ]

"the bottom 80% of men are fighting over the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are fighting over the top 20% of men."

View attachment 996

https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

The mathematical function called the "hypergamum".

 

[MatureDJ]

Meanwhile

• A guy who is a 6 will like a girl who is a 1.
• A guy who is an 8 will like a girl who is a 2.

If the only action I could get were at the level of 2, I would commit Darwinian suicide and expend all of my sexual energy @ Chatturbate.