MGTOW: The Blind Leading The Blind?

[Solomon]

I have been studying this MGTOW thing for the last year or so more than ever, I have been aware of MGTOW since 2013. However I always found it curious that most MGTOW don't show their faces. You can certainly hear the effeminate voices, but I always found it odd about how guys claim to be alpha males in MGTOW. Yet make video after video crying about women, bytching about feminism. Seldom do I see mgtow videos talking about how to get in shape, invest your money etc. it's always about women

After an exchange with Desidova I'm reminded that this is what your average MGTOW guy looks like

No offense and not to cap on anyone here, but are we seriously gonna call these guys "alpha males" or "Winners"

I mean in the last video the guy clearly is clueless about women and wonders why they keep cheating on him?

Now You have MGTOW claiming that Lenoardo DiCaprio is a MGTOW, I'm pretty sure he has never heard of the term

anyway anytime you have someone claiming to be an alpha male yet is angry with women beware

just my .02 cents

 

[resilient]

I laughed when I noticed the PS4 box sitting up on the shelf in that last guy's video.

It's not helping his image as a MGTOW (lonely AFC)...

 

[Urbanyst]

Wait.. so some men are leaving the market which creates more abundance for men like us.. and this makes you angry? Lol

I don't follow the logic.

 

[Solomon]

I laughed when I noticed the PS4 box sitting up on the shelf in that last guy's video.

It's not helping his image as a MGTOW (lonely AFC)...

ha ha I just noticed that as well

Wait.. so some men are leaving the market which creates more abundance for men like us.. and this makes you angry? Lol

I don't follow the logic.

Who said I was angry? don't mistake my annoyance for angry, mgtow for the most part are low value men who are trying to blame their lack off success on women due to "feminism" let be clear

MGTOW has valid points, about the court system and marriage, but when you keep harping day after day about women. When you claim to be "going your own way" doesn't that make them bitter and angry? like the feminist they complain about?

 

[Who Dares Win]

Wait.. so some men are leaving the market which creates more abundance for men like us.. and this makes you angry? Lol

I don't follow the logic.

Wish that was so easy, the point is that those leaving the market are the bottom 20% which are no threat to us.

Basically women still welcoming the top 30% guys dont care if a 20% of the total 70% they are not interested decides to leave.

Its the same for us if the bottom 20% ugly old fat women stop dating...we wouldnt be interested in them anyway.

The difference would be if top 10% of men drop western women and seek east, that would make a difference and in fact gets a reaction from women.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Depends, some MGTOW give self better advice like Blackram313

 

[Urbanyst]

Who said I was angry? don't mistake my annoyance for angry, mgtow for the most part are low value men who are trying to blame their lack off success on women due to "feminism" let be clear

MGTOW has valid points, about the court system and marriage, but when you keep harping day after day about women. When you claim to be "going your own way" doesn't that make them bitter and angry? like the feminist they complain about?

But now YOU are complaining about THEM. They really shouldn't matter to you. That's what I'm saying.

I love MGTOW. More women for ME. Let them whine and complain all they want. I hope they do it even more so that more men become MGTOW and more women are available for me.

 

[Urbanyst]

The difference would be if top 10% of men drop western women and seek east, that would make a difference and in fact gets a reaction from women.

That might eventually happen if Western women don't learn to be better wives.

 

[Fruitbat]

Solomon is right. they are mirrors of feminists.

Going your own way is what we all do?? Hopefully some women join you on that way and have great times with you?

Isn't the fact they "go their own way" in completely shunning women indicative that before, they went the woman's way? Perhaps that's why they didn't get anywhere. Now, when they actually start leading a truly fulfilling life on their own terms, they reject women? Dumb as hell.

You are born into this world alone, and you die alone. We all go our own way. You could find the woman of your dreams and have her die on your wedding night.

The law beat men down, but other than that, MGTOW is embarrasing to men.

 

[zekko]

I always found it odd about how guys claim to be alpha males in MGTOW.

It's because PUA gurus have spread the lie that all it takes to be an alpha male is to have the right mindset. Read the right pickup material, and have the right mindset, and poof you're an alpha male.

The main thing I agree with MGTOWs about is that women are not a top priority. They're in there on the heirarchy list somewhere though.

 

[RangerMIke]

MGTOW are men that understand the nature of women and society and have decided that the only way to win is to not play. I get that, and honestly I do not have a problem with it. Getting into relationships with chicks is dangerous business. I have seen really great guys just get destroyed by women.

As far as being anonymous, well, can you blame them? Depending on what you do for a living, you might get labeled as a woman hating misogynist for just telling the truth, and your job is history.

This is the principle weapon of the SJW... out anyone that says anything controversial, and punish them with threats of boycott or firing. Why are some so public about their philosophy? Who knows... they like the attention. Maybe it is someone cathartic for them. Perhaps they are just trying to make some money.

Anyway, I understand them, but don't agree with their approach. Just don't get into relationships with chicks... you don;t have to avoid them.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

MGTOW are men that understand the nature of women and society and have decided that the only way to win is to not play. I get that, and honestly I do not have a problem with it. Getting into relationships with chicks is dangerous business. I have seen really great guys just get destroyed by women.

As far as being anonymous, well, can you blame them? Depending on what you do for a living, you might get labeled as a woman hating misogynist for just telling the truth, and your job is history.

This is the principle weapon of the SJW... out anyone that says anything controversial, and punish them with threats of boycott or firing. Why are some so public about their philosophy? Who knows... they like the attention. Maybe it is someone cathartic for them. Perhaps they are just trying to make some money.

Anyway, I understand them, but don't agree with their approach. Just don't get into relationships with chicks... you don;t have to avoid them.

Or they're guys who have to wake up every day and work a job they hate so they can send alimony and child support to an ex wife who cheated on them and was just using them the whole time.

What guys don't realize is that even if a girl doesn't "want" to do that to a guy, the system allows her to.

 

[Fruitbat]

Or they're guys who have to wake up every day and work a job they hate so they can send alimony and child support to an ex wife who cheated on them and was just using them the whole time.

What guys don't realize is that even if a girl doesn't "want" to do that to a guy, the system allows her to.

I have a colleague with (no ****) 8 kids. He has to give her 20%.

I hear horror stories but I am not sure how bad it gets.

50/50 asset split is only generally where you have a solid 10 years with kids.

Is it as bad as people say? Even if I split, if I had a kid, I wouldn't die in a ditch to 20% of my earnings which helps support my kids.

I seem to know a fair few women who tell me the CSA (UK service to get cash from dads) is very bad and you can dodge it and make it difficult if you don't play ball.

Not sure who to believe or what the truth is.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I have a colleague with (no ****) 8 kids. He has to give her 20%.

I hear horror stories but I am not sure how bad it gets.

50/50 asset split is only generally where you have a solid 10 years with kids.

Is it as bad as people say? Even if I split, if I had a kid, I wouldn't die in a ditch to 20% of my earnings which helps support my kids.

I seem to know a fair few women who tell me the CSA (UK service to get cash from dads) is very bad and you can dodge it and make it difficult if you don't play ball.

Not sure who to believe or what the truth is.

You go to jail for not paying child support in Florida.

But I looked at the child support tables the other day and if I made $720,000/year, I would pay about $46,000/year in child support if she had 100% custody. I guess that's not really that much and is probably worth it to be able to have kids.

Maybe I should start going out looking to impregnate girls lol.

 

[Fruitbat]

You go to jail for not paying child support in Florida.

But I looked at the child support tables the other day and if I made $720,000/year, I would pay about $46,000/year in child support if she had 100% custody. I guess that's not really that much and is probably worth it to be able to have kids.

Maybe I should start going out looking to impregnate girls lol.

If you make that then that's peanuts.

I've always been surprised at the level of it. Of course, being awarded a house is a bummer but it seems they don't just give everything to the woman.

If men resent paying anything to the upkeep of their kids, with a cheating spouse or not, it never seems like huge numbers.

I hear with super high profile big money divorces it's about proving she was introduced to a completely different life e.g. average girl who built a life in hollywood with an aging rock star. Then, they argue giving her modest amounts means she has to move to an average neighbourhood, lose her friends and social life and take her kids to a tough school after being in a brilliant one.

In the UK, one woman married a mega rich banker. She could not have kids and the poor dude bought her 2 horses and stables to "make up for it". On divorce, she got money to keep her horses and stables until they died.

I think the real rip offs come when you marry miles down and you are super rich.

A couple of hundred pounds a month seems the norm here, which isn't a big deal because kids do actually cost money.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

So-called "MGTOW" is nothing more than a cult of man-children sent on their way by the same women that never wanted them in the first place. "MGTOW" idea of "going your own way" is doing nothing but sitting at the exit door, online, going in circles, making idle threats while trying to recruit more angry rejects into their cult for some beta "power" movement and going nowhere but their online hideaway "male safe space". Weak AF.

MGTARDS claim "MGTOW" is "whatever you want it to be". Well if it's "whatever you want it to be then it could be described as the above and there's no need for a label on something that's "whatever you want it to be".

Even G@ys are more manly than MGTARDS as they are out in the open. MGTOW act like their still stuck in the closet undercover bum chums in 2017 no less.

Gotta love when they claim they want nothing to do with women cuz "alimony" "child support" "single moms" etc. yet those retards are still paying for that through their taxes and denying themselves a woman.

MGTARDS never had any value to withhold since they had no value to begin with.

Idiots the lot of them.

 

[MgtowAlmighty]

I have been studying this MGTOW thing for the last year or so more than ever, I have been aware of MGTOW since 2013. However I always found it curious that most MGTOW don't show their faces. You can certainly hear the effeminate voices, but I always found it odd about how guys claim to be alpha males in MGTOW. Yet make video after video crying about women, bytching about feminism. Seldom do I see mgtow videos talking about how to get in shape, invest your money etc. it's always about women

After an exchange with Desidova I'm reminded that this is what your average MGTOW guy looks like

No offense and not to cap on anyone here, but are we seriously gonna call these guys "alpha males" or "Winners"

I mean in the last video the guy clearly is clueless about women and wonders why they keep cheating on him?

Now You have MGTOW claiming that Lenoardo DiCaprio is a MGTOW, I'm pretty sure he has never heard of the term

anyway anytime you have someone claiming to be an alpha male yet is angry with women beware

just my .02 cents

I can help you people. Some of you are wise and got MGTOW right, whilst others are little boy children whining about men you don't understand. "Oh, well that's just more women folk for us he men! Hahahah, bunch of losers with tiny peckers who can't get laid! Prolly live in their mother's basements, too! Hahahaha! Fat, lazy, losers! Hahaha." You sound just like the feminists and gynocentrists. That's wrong think, boys, and it'll get you in a ton of trouble. For instance, that whole thing someone posted about alimony only being such and such based on such and such an income. Wrong. Those are guidance numbers for judges and have zero bearing on what you'd pay in real life. Those are the numbers they put out to fool you into making bad choices. It's like the stats they put out on how good marriage is for men and how much longer men live if married. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics!" Judges have discretion on how to assign your wealth to others, regardless of the numbers that wanna be lawyer posted.

I've been following the MGTOW mindset for seven years - so I'm an original. Help me help you. I'm a pro.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

I can help you people. Some of you are wise and got MGTOW right, whilst others are little boy children whining about men you don't understand. "Oh, well that's just more women folk for us he men! Hahahah, bunch of losers with tiny peckers who can't get laid! Prolly live in their mother's basements, too! Hahahaha! Fat, lazy, losers! Hahaha." You sound just like the feminists and gynocentrists. That's wrong think, boys, and it'll get you in a ton of trouble. For instance, that whole thing someone posted about alimony only being such and such based on such and such an income. Wrong. Those are guidance numbers for judges and have zero bearing on what you'd pay in real life. Those are the numbers they put out to fool you into making bad choices. It's like the stats they put out on how good marriage is for men and how much longer men live if married. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics!" Judges have discretion on how to assign your wealth to others, regardless of the numbers that wanna be lawyer posted.

I've been following the MGTOW mindset for seven years - so I'm an original. Help me help you. I'm a pro.

Most MGTOWs seem to have a delusional scenario in their head - all the women of the world wailing, crying "why didn't we validate Johnny??? Now he spends all his time playing Counter Strike!!! Oh woe is us!!!"

mgtow is a weak coping strategy for societal rejects that are only "attractive" enough to beta provide to escorts.

MGTOWs would drop their beliefs in an instant if a chubby single mom looking for a beta buck cuck provider dated them.

So go "your own way". But stop looking over your shoulder waiting for a reaction. It's pathetic.

 

[MgtowAlmighty]

Most MGTOWs seem to have a delusional scenario in their head - all the women of the world wailing, crying "why didn't we validate Johnny??? Now he spends all his time playing Counter Strike!!! Oh woe is us!!!"

mgtow is a weak coping strategy for societal rejects that are only "attractive" enough to beta provide to escorts.

MGTOWs would drop their beliefs in an instant if a chubby single mom looking for a beta buck cuck provider dated them.

So go "your own way". But stop looking over your shoulder waiting for a reaction. It's pathetic.

Ok. So you're an idiot. I get it. You don't have to go proving it over and over.

 

[zekko]

Anyway, I understand them, but don't agree with their approach. Just don't get into relationships with chicks... you don;t have to avoid them.

That's what I was told MGTOW were - just more guys spinning plates, who avoided commitment. If that's true, I don't really see any difference between them and PUAs.

My original impression of MGTOWs was a lot like Leisuresuitlegend's. Losers who had failed with women, knew they were never going to get anywhere with women, so just decided to make the best of life without them.

I think there's a certain pragmatism about that, but I was told that's not what they were. They were just plate spinners. So I don't know what is supposed to set them apart.