Don't ever think a woman is out of your league.....

[oc16]

You will soon be out in public and see a Short, fat, balding man with a hot woman on his arm and you will kicking yourself for thinking like that to begin with!

Ask yourself, how many times have you seen a guy who was dating a woman beyond his "pay scale"? I bet, more times than you can count.

 

[Urbanyst]

Sure.. an ugly or broke man might be able to date a HOT woman. The real question is how much power does the man have in that relationship? How well is the man treated?

I'm not interested in having a dysfunctional relationship or a relationship full of drama and sh*t tests just because the woman is HOT. And I dated two very HOT women this summer who turned out to be lame down the road.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Sure.. an ugly or broke man might be able to date a HOT woman. The real question is how much power does the man have in that relationship? How well is the man treated?

I'm not interested in having a dysfunctional relationship or a relationship full of drama and sh*t tests just because the woman is HOT. And I dated two very HOT women this summer who turned out to be lame down the road.

She might be a nice woman whose happy to be treated well. In our culture even a club or bar rat that's nearly unemployed thinks they are a higher level than a successful white collar person making $100+k a year. It's bull. No you should never put anyone over you. But realize how they may look at the world. Dont waste time on ladies who aren't into you.

 

[Urbanyst]

She might be a nice woman whose happy to be treated well. In our culture even a club or bar rat that's nearly unemployed thinks they are a higher level than a successful white collar person making $100+k a year. It's bull. No you should never put anyone over you. But realize how they may look at the world. Dont waste time on ladies who aren't into you.

Most club and bar rats are too ignorant to see the value in an educated man who can string a sentence together without spelling mistakes.

That type of lizard brain woman only responds well to muscles, tattoos, cocaine and pop culture references. The type of women who will judge you if you never heard of her favorite TV show, rapper or rocker lol. Dumb as a bucket of shrimp.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Most club and bar rats are too ignorant to see the value in an educated man who can string a sentence together without spelling mistakes.

That type of lizard brain woman only responds well to muscles, tattoos, cocaine and pop culture references. The type of women who will judge you if you never heard of her favorite TV show, rapper or rocker lol. Dumb as a bucket of shrimp.

Or if your a member of the right group. We used to be with our NFL friends and by association the h0es skyrocket you to upper echelon.

Your right, lizard brain. Appealing to someone lizard brain is smart.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think this whole lizard brain thing is the key. It bypass rationalize thinking and gets to primal desires such as "I must eat", "I must find shelter", "I must win or die"

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think this whole lizard brain thing is the key. It bypass rationalize thinking and gets to primal desires such as "I must eat", "I must find shelter", "I must win or die"

That being said lizard brain can be dumb as h3ll cause it does not fully consider consequences. It will however go with a Max effort for what it thinks it wants.

 

[Urbanyst]

I think this whole lizard brain thing is the key. It bypass rationalize thinking and gets to primal desires such as "I must eat", "I must find shelter", "I must win or die"

That's how you know intelligent women from stupid women. Their ability to know what's good for them vs. what feels appealing at the moment. People who make dumb and impulsive decisions (most people) are lizard brain. People with self control and foresight are intelligent (less common).

If a woman doesn't value education or CLASS she is lizard brain. If she would rather go shopping or get drunk than go to a museum, she is lizard brain. There isn't much chemistry between intelligent people and stupid people.

 

[soulforge]

Hey guys I was actually considering starting a similar thread like this today?

What are the chances of a relationship being successful, if the female is earning more money than you, also has a nicer house and car?

But looks wise you are both equal...

Wouldn't she likely have more power in the relationship?

My ex earnt more money than me, had a nicer car etc.. I always kinda felt like, she thought she was better than me..

And financialy she abviously was better than me..

After my bad experience with her, I am now very cautious about getting involved with a woman who might be out of my league, I am certain those females will treat you like crap?

 

[Murk]

Hey guys I was actually considering starting a similar thread like this today?

What are the chances of a relationship being successful, if the female is earning more money than you, also has a nicer house and car?

But looks wise you are both equal...

Wouldn't she likely have more power in the relationship?

My ex earnt more money than me, had a nicer car etc.. I always kinda felt like, she thought she was better than me..

And financialy she abviously was better than me..

After my bad experience with her, I am now very cautious about getting involved with a woman who might be out of my league, I am certain those females will treat you like crap?

It all depends on how you handle the situation and how you set out from the beginning. My ex was my old boss, she had more money than me (more money than most people) and it didn't effect anything. She actually spent quite a bit on me but I never let her use that as a stick to beat me with.

Don't make it an issue and keep your integrity and it's BAU.

 

[Urbanyst]

Hey guys I was actually considering starting a similar thread like this today?

What are the chances of a relationship being successful, if the female is earning more money than you, also has a nicer house and car?

But looks wise you are both equal...

Wouldn't she likely have more power in the relationship?

My ex earnt more money than me, had a nicer car etc.. I always kinda felt like, she thought she was better than me..

And financialy she abviously was better than me..

After my bad experience with her, I am now very cautious about getting involved with a woman who might be out of my league, I am certain those females will treat you like crap?

I don't tell women how much money I make.

 

[soulforge]

It all depends on how you handle the situation and how you set out from the beginning. My ex was my old boss, she had more money than me (more money than most people) and it didn't effect anything. She actually spent quite a bit on me but I never let her use that as a stick to beat me with.

Don't make it an issue and keep your integrity and it's BAU.

My ex made more money than me, but she would hardly EVER spend anything on me.. She expected me to pay half for everything... down to the last pound.

Plus she disrespected me on several occasions.. So i believe the root of her behaviour towards me, came from maybe the belief that she was better than me!

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Hey guys I was actually considering starting a similar thread like this today?

What are the chances of a relationship being successful, if the female is earning more money than you, also has a nicer house and car?

But looks wise you are both equal...

Wouldn't she likely have more power in the relationship?

My ex earnt more money than me, had a nicer car etc.. I always kinda felt like, she thought she was better than me..

And financialy she abviously was better than me..

After my bad experience with her, I am now very cautious about getting involved with a woman who might be out of my league, I am certain those females will treat you like crap?

Depends upon her personality. Some women can have that and just want to share it with you.

 

[Serenity]

@soulforge I think the problem in such cases is that the man perceives himself as inferior (since he perceives her as superior). He accepts being treated poorly because that's what he think he must do to keep that woman, he fears being dumped if he stands up for himself.

I think that in itself is why it fails. He loses his spine, THE thing that women find attractive in a man, in the hopes of keeping her. What an inferior feeling man does to keep a woman is what drives her away. The woman doesn't have more power just because she's prettier or richer, it's men who surrender their power for such women.

I think such relationships can work out well, but it is VERY important that the man does not give away his power, does not accept unjustified poor treatment and walks away with his self-respect intact if she doesn't respect the man.

If a woman has more money or better looks than a man, but still wants him, then it was obviously something else that attracted her. So I think being hung up on money and looks is in that case very misguided. What is left must be who he is as a person, which quickly deteriorates if he is intimidated by her in any way. Meaning the very thing that attracted her is now gone.

So, never regard a woman as out of your league. Never put her on a pedestal above you (not implying you should put yourself on a pedestal above her, that will fail too). The moment you do you will lose everything she values in you.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

That's how you know intelligent women from stupid women. Their ability to know what's good for them vs. what feels appealing at the moment. People who make dumb and impulsive decisions (most people) are lizard brain. People with self control and foresight are intelligent (less common).

If a woman doesn't value education or CLASS she is lizard brain. If she would rather go shopping or get drunk than go to a museum, she is lizard brain. There isn't much chemistry between intelligent people and stupid people.

Killer whales have learned and adapted to be able to kill the less Intelligent great white shark.

 

[bigneil]

Date the most beautiful women possible. They train you on what makes them happy. Your brain will record things at a much higher frame rate in her presence, and your subconscious mind will learn from each frame what worked and what did not. Once you've made love to the most beautiful woman you ever saw, no woman can ever phase you, and they pick up on that. Also, do whatever it takes to make your body match hers. Hit the gym. Hire a physical trainer. Eat organic.

 

[bigneil]

Even if you have to pay beautiful women to go out with you, it's worth it. They train you on how to get them free. It's not whether you paid or not. Every man pays in some capacity (whether by virtue of his money, looks, or social status). The key is how much you paid (in terms of how much time you spent, including the time you worked to earn what you paid her). It's called value.

People will say "She USED you"! It's pure spite from fat, old women and broke men (who deserve each other but are too hypocritical to admit it). Consider that the word used means utilized. If someone said "She UTILIZED you!" you'd say "Of course, duh".

 

[soulforge]

@soulforge I think the problem in such cases is that the man perceives himself as inferior (since he perceives her as superior). He accepts being treated poorly because that's what he think he must do to keep that woman, he fears being dumped if he stands up for himself.

I think that in itself is why it fails. He loses his spine, THE thing that women find attractive in a man, in the hopes of keeping her. What an inferior feeling man does to keep a woman is what drives her away. The woman doesn't have more power just because she's prettier or richer, it's men who surrender their power for such women.

I think such relationships can work out well, but it is VERY important that the man does not give away his power, does not accept unjustified poor treatment and walks away with his self-respect intact if she doesn't respect the man.

If a woman has more money or better looks than a man, but still wants him, then it was obviously something else that attracted her. So I think being hung up on money and looks is in that case very misguided. What is left must be who he is as a person, which quickly deteriorates if he is intimidated by her in any way. Meaning the very thing that attracted her is now gone.

So, never regard a woman as out of your league. Never put her on a pedestal above you (not implying you should put yourself on a pedestal above her, that will fail too). The moment you do you will lose everything she values in you.

Grewd you are spot on here.. However in my case, I always stood up to my ex, and totally made her aware I will not tolerate BS.

But the disrespect would rear it's ugly head again.. It wasn't constant, things would be great for months, then she would just suddenly drop some disrespect on me!

In the end, I dumped her and walked.. 6 months NC i have never looked back.

When I first met her, for the first few months I felt a little inferior to her, but then I kinda stopped giving a fuk, and just stopped treating her, like she was something special.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Even if you have to pay beautiful women to go out with you, it's worth it. They train you on how to get them free. It's not whether you paid or not. Every man pays in some capacity (whether by virtue of his money, looks, or social status). The key is how much you paid (in terms of how much time you spent, including the time you worked to earn what you paid her). It's called value.

People will say "She USED you"! It's pure spite from fat, old women and broke men (who deserve each other but are too hypocritical to admit it). Consider that the word used means utilized. If someone said "She UTILIZED you!" you'd say "Of course, duh".

I still don't think it's wise to pay anyone to be around you.

 

[Serenity]

Grewd you are spot on here.. However in my case, I always stood up to my ex, and totally made her aware I will not tolerate BS.

But the disrespect would rear it's ugly head again.. It wasn't constant, things would be great for months, then she would just suddenly drop some disrespect on me!

In the end, I dumped her and walked back.. 6 months NC i have never looked back.

When I first met her, for the first few months I felt a little inferior to her, but then I kinda stopped giving a fuk, and just stopped treating her, like she was something special.

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply you were one of those guys who turn beta. You gave it a chance, but in the end you weren't satisfied with the relationship so you did the right thing and left.

Part of my point is that it's not so much the socioeconomic status as it is a woman's individual personality that is the problem. You shouldn't avoid dating someone "out of your league" on the assumption all or most of them are like your ex. There is a wide variety of different personalities within a specific socioeconomic group. Good and bad women exist across the entire spectrum.

All that matters is that you do not give away your power and walk away if she doesn't respect it. I'm sure some women with higher income and/or better looks will respect it.