Don’t mix your emotions with your women

[Bingo-Player]

I've had over 8 years’ experience in the field iv'e been through the one night stands, the heartaches , LDR’s ,LTR’s , FWB’s all of it

I promise you that if you emotionally invest in a woman she will eventually bring your world crashing down around your ears,

I made the critical mistake earlier in the year and the sad truth was that I SHOULD have known better, the writing was on the wall and I chose to ignore it because I “loved” her and never thought she would be capable of rap1ng my mind…… LOL

Yes it has made me stronger and wiser but personally I would prefer never to find myself in that situation again

However This doesn’t mean you have to turn in to woman hating hermit ………you can still meet women , have fun with them , fvck them treat them like a GF if you so choose

All I’m saying is that keep a part of your mind locked away from her ……a part which is always prepared to walk away, a part that wouldn’t particularly care if you walked in on her fvcking your best friend because ultimately that is what they are capable of and you are a fool if you think otherwise

It doesn’t matter how much money you have, how big your d1ck is, what car you drive I promise you if she’s between 18 & 40 she is more than capable of breaking you

They hate to be treated as objects but unfortunately that is what you must do in order to maintain your sanity

 

[bigneil]

All I’m saying is that keep a part of your mind locked away from her ……a part which is always prepared to walk away, a part that wouldn’t particularly care if you walked in on her fvcking your best friend because ultimately that is what they are capable of and you are a fool if you think otherwise

It doesn’t matter how much money you have, how big your d1ck is, what car you drive I promise you if she’s between 18 & 40 she is more than capable of breaking you.

Not sure about breaking, but aching.

I don't think we have much choice in the matter.

As we progress as seducers, we seduce younger and more beautiful women than before. At some point, the combination of youth + beauty overwhelms us (if we are lucky - and especially if we are lucky while in a slump). That is, we eventually get someone who is out of our (previous) league to fall in love with us. We reach the point of ecstasy for a limited time. Oxytocin, cuddling, obsession, infatuation, limerance, true love - whatever term you use, it wears off. Even if we always have one foot out the door, even if we walk away on a moment's notice, we'll still feel heartache. It's not something we can actively avoid. It's part of the growing process. As long as the women who are causing heartache are getting better and better, we are progressing. Also, if we learn to handle heartache and rejection properly, it's possible to have them return to us. This is because 97% of guys mess up, and at some point they whine, and act submissive. We just need to have the ability to date other women in the meantime.

 

[Urbanyst]

Today's women are trash.

Never compromise yourself for women and you can never get destroyed by them.

I've never had a relationship last longer than a year because I would never compromise myself. Stubborn like sh*t. Used to p*ss my mother off when I was a kid because I just don't budge on things no matter what the threat. Eventually learned to lie just to shut her up, but she never successfully got me to think her way. I've just always had a natural tendency to be disobedient towards women. Same with female teachers growing up. I would only be bad in classes where I had a female teacher. Just something about women made me not want to listen to them. So no lasting LTR's for me yet.. but no hitting rock bottom from buying into women's horse sh*t either.

 

[SmooveMooves]

You can't be in a LTR without investing emotionally. It's not even something you really can control, it happens naturally. Chemicals in your brain cause those feelings, you cannot shut them off. The only thing you can do is take a longer time to invest & learn to cope with emotional pain i.e:

Screen

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

A relationship is like a sculpture. First, you need to choose your materials carefully, and have then the right tools for the job.

It can be hard work. But there is it, a finished work of art, gleaming gloriously in the light of day.

 

[soulforge]

You can't be in a LTR without investing emotionally. It's not even something you really can control, it happens naturally. Chemicals in your brain cause those feelings, you cannot shut them off. The only thing you can do is take a longer time to invest & learn to cope with emotional pain i.e:

Screen

I totally agree with this.. Do you really think you can have a relationship and 2,3,4,5,6 years down the line, you are not going to emotionally invest in her?

Come on off course you will, and as smoothmoves pointed out, it will just happen and it's not something you can control.

This why it's of great importance that you are emotionally investing in the RIGHT girl.

Have strong boundaries, learn to spot the red flags.. Within the first 6 months, you should have a good idea if she is worth investing in..

Too many red flags? Then find the courage to walk away, until you find a better quality girl

 

[Von]

A relationship is like a sculpture. First, you need to choose your materials carefully, and have then the right tools for the job.

It can be hard work. Buttere is it, a finished work of art, gleaming gloriously in the light of day.

Bingo, you'll be alrigth... bounce back fast and hard


Émotions are the key in LTR but frame is the handle

Never let your émotions blur your SCREENING

Never let émotions disrupt your frame and selfrespect

You need émotions to be in love, you need frame to control your emotions

Women attack your frame constantly, to see how MANLY you are

But there is a LIMIT: that's why screening and frame are important keys

 

[Bingo-Player]

You can't be in a LTR without investing emotionally. It's not even something you really can control, it happens naturally. Chemicals in your brain cause those feelings, you cannot shut them off. The only thing you can do is take a longer time to invest & learn to cope with emotional pain i.e:

Screen

its not something you can control unless you've already been through it and remember the pain it cause

you are more than capable of mastering your own mind with enough discipline and willpower , i dont see how something like holding a part of your emotions back cant be done with enough training

also i dont think ive witnessed one relationship in 25 years that is a "gleaming glorious work of art"

sorry guys you have to be ruthless and honest with yourselves here we are in an extremely morally poor period of existence

proceed as you wish , but dont say i didnt warn you.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

also i dont think ive witnessed one relationship in 25 years that is a "gleaming glorious work of art"
.

Yes, because it is an increasingly rare thing. Something that overcomes the sordid reality in which we live.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

It's not possible to be completely emotionally void (unless you are clinically psychopathic); we either repress emotions, we experience and express them like women, or we deal with them in a calm and considered manner.

-Repression never lasts, and repressed emotions just compound each other and eventually come out anyway, uncotntrolled.
-Feminine expression is what modern men are conditioned is 'good' for them (i.e. most men on this forum).
-Stoicism: 'a person who can endure pain or hardship without showing their feelings or complaining'.

There's a big difference between repression and being stoic.

Repression is pretending that you don't / shouldn't care, when actually you do (and always will). Trouble is, you're still trying to experience 'love', passion and romance the way that Hollywood and Disney prescribe - i.e. like a woman. You'll go on dating women, but have very porous, unfulfilling relationships, owing to the refusal to 'invest'. Whereas, it's not really about 'investing', as much as it is about simply 'experiencing'. All the while, you'll come back to SS, time ad nauseum, bemoaning women, using these threads as some pitiful passive-aggressive outlet for those repressed feelfeels, like all the other women-hating MGTOWs. Yes, at the moment, society wants you to hate women.

Learn to emote like a man rather than a woman and life becomes infinitely easier, especially when dealing with other people.

Soticism (from wiki, as good a place as any) - is a school of Hellenistic philosophy that flourished throughout the Roman and Greek world until the 3rd century AD. Stoicism is predominantly a philosophy of personal ethics which is informed by its system of logic and its views on the natural world. According to its teachings, as social beings, the path to happiness for humans is found in accepting this moment as it presents itself, by not allowing ourselves to be controlled by our desire for pleasure or our fear of pain, by using our minds to understand the world around us and to do our part in nature's plan, and by working together and treating others in a fair and just manner.

Particularly pertinent here is the 'fear of pain'. And, furthermore, the pain itself.

Refusing to emote, or equally expressly emoting, is a child-like or feminine (often very similar reactions) reaction to pain.

Learning how to manage and deal with please and pain in rational and logical manner is the masculine path.

By allowing pleasure to override judgments of logic and rationale, we demonstrate weakness.
By allowing pain to override judgments of logic and rationale, we demonstrate lack of resolve.​

 

[bigneil]

The best solution is: let her do 80% of the initiating. It's hard to get overinvested when she is chasing you. If her chasing fades, the relationship fades slowly. You walk away and wait until she comes back, and repeat.

 

[bigneil]

Refusing to emote, or equally expressly emoting, is a child-like or feminine (often very similar reactions) reaction to pain.

I pointed to Tom Brady after he won his 5th Super Bowl (and after years of being dragged through court and called a cheater), how he was crying. I said to my then girlfriend "See? Real men do show emotion, they just don't show emotion during crunch-time, until after they accomplish their mission". Feminists have taught women that men should NEVER show emotion, or that they are weak.

 

[resilient]

The rub with screening is often enough you don't spot the red flags until you've been hooking up for a while and their "true" self-emerges. Given time, she'll let down her guard and reveal who she is.

The hard part, then, becomes when you become more emotionally invested because of the sechs that all those neurochemicals swarming around in the hamster-brain bring that clouds sound judgment and allows rationalizing walking away.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Tom Brady

In summary....

-Crying because you won the Superbowl = manly.
-Crying because you married Gisele = ghey.

 

[Trump]

You can't be in a LTR without investing emotionally. It's not even something you really can control, it happens naturally. Chemicals in your brain cause those feelings, you cannot shut them off. The only thing you can do is take a longer time to invest & learn to cope with emotional pain i.e:

Screen

Or you could not get into a LTR and spin plates.

Your thinking appears to be "when women do as they wish in a LTR, learn to cope with it and screen better." But if women acted and behaved better there would be no reason to cope with the emotional pain. There would be happiness and harmony. You are blaming the victim instead of the offender.

Getting into a LTR shouldn't come at the expense of the men's emotional and psychological well being. Society labels men as losers who are not committed to a woman, but they could care less of the repurcussions.

Society: "You are a loser if don't have a woman!"
Society: "Your fault she is not happy!"
Society: "Your fault she cheated!"
Society: "Your fault she broke up with you!"

You: "But I invested my time and effort and money in her for over 4 years!"

Society:"Doesn't matter. Even though her value goes down by the day and her expectations go up, she is worth more than you and you are disposable."

Brutal.

 

[SmooveMooves]

It's not possible to be completely emotionally void (unless you are clinically psychopathic); we either repress emotions, we experience and express them like women, or we deal with them in a calm and considered manner.

-Repression never lasts, and repressed emotions just compound each other and eventually come out anyway, uncotntrolled.
-Feminine expression is what modern men are conditioned is 'good' for them (i.e. most men on this forum).
-Stoicism: 'a person who can endure pain or hardship without showing their feelings or complaining'.

There's a big difference between repression and being stoic.

Repression is pretending that you don't / shouldn't care, when actually you do (and always will). Trouble is, you're still trying to experience 'love', passion and romance the way that Hollywood and Disney prescribe - i.e. like a woman. You'll go on dating women, but have very porous, unfulfilling relationships, owing to the refusal to 'invest'. Whereas, it's not really about 'investing', as much as it is about simply 'experiencing'. All the while, you'll come back to SS, time ad nauseum, bemoaning women, using these threads as some pitiful passive-aggressive outlet for those repressed feelfeels, like all the other women-hating MGTOWs. Yes, at the moment, society wants you to hate women.

Learn to emote like a man rather than a woman and life becomes infinitely easier, especially when dealing with other people.

Soticism (from wiki, as good a place as any) - is a school of Hellenistic philosophy that flourished throughout the Roman and Greek world until the 3rd century AD. Stoicism is predominantly a philosophy of personal ethics which is informed by its system of logic and its views on the natural world. According to its teachings, as social beings, the path to happiness for humans is found in accepting this moment as it presents itself, by not allowing ourselves to be controlled by our desire for pleasure or our fear of pain, by using our minds to understand the world around us and to do our part in nature's plan, and by working together and treating others in a fair and just manner.

Particularly pertinent here is the 'fear of pain'. And, furthermore, the pain itself.

Refusing to emote, or equally expressly emoting, is a child-like or feminine (often very similar reactions) reaction to pain.

Learning how to manage and deal with please and pain in rational and logical manner is the masculine path.

By allowing pleasure to override judgments of logic and rationale, we demonstrate weakness.
By allowing pain to override judgments of logic and rationale, we demonstrate lack of resolve.​

@Bingo-Player


This is said well better than I could have. You can pretend you don't have emotions if you want to. You are not a robot, your relationships will suffer and you'll make more threads here complaining about women while burning resentment of women builds. You cannot shut off emotions sorry. Learn to be stoic. Learn to manage them.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Your thinking appears to be "when women do as they wish in a LTR, learn to cope with it and screen better."

No. My thinking is don't pretend not to have emotions in order to protect yourself. You have emotions. You cannot shut them off. In the past there were strong male figures to teach younger men how to deal with emotions. Now we have a bunch of men getting hurt and wishing they were sociopaths.

But if women acted and behaved better there would be no reason to cope with the emotional pain. There would be happiness and harmony. You are blaming the victim instead of the offender.

So in other words if women were perfect we wouldn't women have to worry about emotions? Women aren't the only thing that can cause you emotional pain. The world is not perfect. People are not perfect. No relationship will ever be only happiness and harmony. What type of fantasy land are you imagining?

Getting into a LTR shouldn't come at the expense of the men's emotional and psychological well being.

Experiencing emotions is not sacrificing your emotional and psychological well being. Pretending that you are psychopathic is.

Society: "You are a loser if don't have a woman!"
Society: "Your fault she is not happy!"
Society: "Your fault she cheated!"
Society: "Your fault she broke up with you!"

You: "But I invested my time and effort and money in her for over 4 years!"

Society:"Doesn't matter. Even though her value goes down by the day and her expectations go up, she is worth more than you and you are disposable."

Brutal.

Boohoo. You seem to want the world to be fair. It isn't.

 

[Trump]

No. My thinking is don't pretend not to have emotions in order to protect yourself. You have emotions. You cannot shut them off. In the past there were strong male figures to teach younger men how to deal with emotions. Now we have a bunch of men getting hurt and wishing they were sociopaths.

Don't you have to pretend not to have emotions to protect yourself? Biologically you can't shut them off, but in the real world, with a woman you like, you have to. Otherwise she will destroy you. Anyway I've seen it.

Women aren't the only thing that can cause you emotional pain.

In my experience, they are pretty much the only thing that can cause it. Non withstanding health and family death. What else can?

Experiencing emotions is not sacrificing your emotional and psychological well being. Pretending that you are psychopathic is.

You can experience them but you can't show them to a woman you like. Again, in my experience, if you do it, she will use it AGAINST you. Have I seen too much or am I too naive?

 

[ubercat]

This is why I choose HB7s for relationships. Cute but not so beautiful that they are going to turn your head upside down. I can easily maintain their interest by just being a solid man I don't have to become Superman. And if she starts being a b**** easily replaced.

 

[bigneil]

Don't you have to pretend not to have emotions to protect yourself? Otherwise she will destroy you.

Why are we using language like this? "She will destroy you". "She will ruin your world". "She will break you... unless you become a robot". Stop empowering women this way.

Behind Blue Eyes (1971)

"No one knows what its like
To feel these feelings
Like I do, and I blame you!
No one bites back as hard
On their anger
None of my pain woe
Can show through

But my dreams they aren't as empty
As my conscience seems to be
I have hours, only lonely
My love is vengeance
That's never free

No one knows what its like
To be mistreated, to be defeated
Behind blue eyes
No one know how to say
That they're sorry and don't worry
I'm not telling lies

But my dreams they aren't as empty
As my conscience seems to be
I have hours, only lonely
My love is vengeance
That's never free"