What the heck happened?

[Leaf]

I had this HB pursue me for weeks and we finally went out. Went until midnight hooking up, french kissing etc.

We then had planned for a mid-week catch up and something else on the weekend but she just cancelled one due to a meeting she had for work (this was expected) and turned down seeing me on the weekend to help my housemate with some errands as she is going away.

Thing is after turning me down, she's now just agreed to drop by ours that date to help my housemate instead.

What gives? She admitted she suffered from anxiety issues in the past but I wouldn't think a girl would be like that.

So what do I do now? I just can't figure her out for someone who spent 3 weeks knitting me a gift.

 

[bigneil]

• Wait, to clarify, hooking up means having sex. Why would you list having sex before French kissing?
• You asked her to come over to help your housemate with errands, for a date? That's not a fun date.
• "Drop by ours that date"? English please. She's dropping by after all?
• One date and you know about anxiety issues?
• You thought you found the one and you could send "good morning" texts 7 days a week, and she'd always reply, but now you humped her leg too much.
• Stop all communication and only respond to her texts. Find a new woman.

 

[Leaf]

• Wait, to clarify, hooking up means having sex. Why would you list having sex before French kissing?
• You asked her to come over to help your housemate with errands, for a date? That's not a fun date.
• "Drop by ours that date"? English please. She's dropping by after all?
• One date and you know about anxiety issues?
• You thought you found the one and you could send "good morning" texts 7 days a week, and she'd always reply, but now you humped her leg too much.
• Stop all communication and only respond to her texts. Find a new woman.

Sorry bigneil for my poor grammar. Admittedly this was written in haste to stop me from going all AFC on her.

1) No, was 4 hours at a local lookout making out and chatting up (her suggestion after dinner)

2) I'd organised something mid week which she turned down as she was busy with a meeting but then had free enough time to drop by mine to help my housemate with errands after (they're both friends).

3) Well we've known eachother for a while and she has been the one pursueing and I finally caved and went on the first date.

4) And no good morning texts or calling her 'beautiful' etc from me any more. I'm a bit older and a bit more smarter. She double texts to ensure I'd be continuing conversations.

5) Fair enough; agreed.

 

[Meektrop]

Sorry bigneil for my poor grammar. Admittedly this was written in haste to stop me from going all AFC on her.

1) No, was 4 hours at a local lookout making out and chatting up (her suggestion after dinner)

2) I'd organised something mid week which she turned down as she was busy with a meeting but then had free enough time to drop by mine to help my housemate with errands after (they're both friends).

3) Well we've known eachother for a while and she has been the one pursueing and I finally caved and went on the first date.

4) And no good morning texts or calling her 'beautiful' etc from me any more. I'm a bit older and a bit more smarter. She double texts to ensure I'd be continuing conversations.

5) Fair enough; agreed.

If she has been pursuing, let her keep pursuing.

My 2 cents

 

[RangerMIke]

• You thought you found the one and you could send "good morning" texts 7 days a week, and she'd always reply, but now you humped her leg too much.

@bigneil gets it right again.... You became too needy and comfortable thinking you had this one in the bag. You tried to make a date, she pushed back... keep your cool and let her come to you... If she doesn't so what, go date other chicks.

 

[ManlyMichael]

The worst mistake a guy can do is hook up with the girl too soon. Once some contact comes between you too, you can allow it to go just a little bit. It should start she just trying to touch and hug you nonstop, than one day you two kiss, and than you limit her fun right there! Watch how much she wants you when you won't actually do any pleasing her after all that.... she starts losing all control for her desire, DONT GIVE HER WHAT SHE DESIRE UNTIL YOU TRAIN HER FOR YOUR DESIRES,
A man has to learn to control his sexual desire to control his woman, otherwise it's a wreck, you will end up just having sex and a complete relationship crumbling. You will realize that you have nothing you like about her and you were just trying to have sex, and those things you thought you liked about her?? Watch how quickly you see she was telling lies and you discover her faults, it can get to the point where you basically are disgusted at her.

This doesn't matter if you want a serious relationship or not, a friend is a friend and it's very unmanly to not have a respectable relationship, just give her a little play at a time, let her try to get with you at least 10 times, and each time just cut it off somewhere, let her see your not satisfied with her and you had to come back to your senses and stop thinking with your stick. Unless you want to be like these other guys here who have had 20-50 woman and gain nothing from it? Training a woman to work for you and not against you is essential to a great life, and it starts with your sexual desire being controlled more than hers. Don't even let the thought enter your mind that's she is worthy to get your stick, honestly she will rarely ever be truly worthy of it, you just got to train her till you see she can potentially one day be worthy, you see that she listens and obey, no fuss, girl you know who the boss, until you got her like that in complete control, it means you are the one who is at fault.

Hope this helps you brother, it's really important for your overall life

 

[Dash Riprock]

The worst mistake a guy can do is hook up with the girl too soon. Once some contact comes between you too, you can allow it to go just a little bit. It should start she just trying to touch and hug you nonstop, than one day you two kiss, and than you limit her fun right there! Watch how much she wants you when you won't actually do any pleasing her after all that.... she starts losing all control for her desire, DONT GIVE HER WHAT SHE DESIRE UNTIL YOU TRAIN HER FOR YOUR DESIRES,
A man has to learn to control his sexual desire to control his woman, otherwise it's a wreck, you will end up just having sex and a complete relationship crumbling. You will realize that you have nothing you like about her and you were just trying to have sex, and those things you thought you liked about her?? Watch how quickly you see she was telling lies and you discover her faults, it can get to the point where you basically are disgusted at her.

This doesn't matter if you want a serious relationship or not, a friend is a friend and it's very unmanly to not have a respectable relationship, just give her a little play at a time, let her try to get with you at least 10 times, and each time just cut it off somewhere, let her see your not satisfied with her and you had to come back to your senses and stop thinking with your stick. Unless you want to be like these other guys here who have had 20-50 woman and gain nothing from it? Training a woman to work for you and not against you is essential to a great life, and it starts with your sexual desire being controlled more than hers. Don't even let the thought enter your mind that's she is worthy to get your stick, honestly she will rarely ever be truly worthy of it, you just got to train her till you see she can potentially one day be worthy, you see that she listens and obey, no fuss, girl you know who the boss, until you got her like that in complete control, it means you are the one who is at fault.

Hope this helps you brother, it's really important for your overall life

Some of this holds true but keep in mind that when you have sex with a woman she releases a huge amount of oxytocin which is a bonding hormone. She will never see you the same again, aka "friend," because of the this. Sure, you could turn out to be a total loser and she'll dump you, but because of the bond you two created, at least in her mind, it makes it a bit more difficult than if you never f*cked her.

I think there's a sweet spot here: F*ck her too early, 1-2 dates, and she perceives it as only a hookup. Also, I generally don't view women as LTR material if they do screw me on the first or second date. Wait too long, beyond 5-6 dates and she starts thinking of you as a friend, or you can't get it up, or you have horrible PA, or just lack confidence. I think the best dates to have sex are 3-5 dates in. You've gone out, run your game, shown her you're a confident guy, and are fun. Get her back to your place, start on the couch, and start firmly caressing her and touching her. Gauge her reaction. If she closes her eyes and starts breathing heavier, go for a huge kiss, lightly kiss her neck (women love this), and then start undressing her. This has worked for me 99% of the time.

Good luck.,

Dash

 

[wifehunter]

It's just sex...she can get that anywhere. Guys are a dime a dozen.

Most are worthless, unsurprisingly.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Some of this holds true but keep in mind that when you have sex with a woman she releases a huge amount of oxytocin which is a bonding hormone. She will never see you the same again, aka "friend," because of the this. Sure, you could turn out to be a total loser and she'll dump you, but because of the bond you two created, at least in her mind, it makes it a bit more difficult than if you never f*cked her.

I think there's a sweet spot here: F*ck her too early, 1-2 dates, and she perceives it as only a hookup. Also, I generally don't view women as LTR material if they do screw me on the first or second date. Wait too long, beyond 5-6 dates and she starts thinking of you as a friend, or you can't get it up, or you have horrible PA, or just lack confidence. I think the best dates to have sex are 3-5 dates in. You've gone out, run your game, shown her you're a confident guy, and are fun. Get her back to your place, start on the couch, and start firmly caressing her and touching her. Gauge her reaction. If she closes her eyes and starts breathing heavier, go for a huge kiss, lightly kiss her neck (women love this), and then start undressing her. This has worked for me 99% of the time.

Good luck.,

Dash

This is good stuff. I have a sweet spot pattern I follow. FIrst date end it with a kiss on the cheek. 2nd date end it with a deep, prolonged kiss and third date invite her over to a restuarant close to your place and take her back home and f*ck.

I truly believe the simple act of initiating a kiss seperates you from 50% of guys out there. Most guys just dont initiate anything. period.

 

[ManlyMichael]

So sad! You guys who have a routine set up, saying 3-5 times and make a move, and setting a number to life, your not living. Your like a voicemail, you activate after the set number of rings, your a machine when you should be a man. just because it worked it doesn't mean it is the good way to go.

So sad! Have you forgotten the younger days when the girls just see you and you said a few words and they got obsessed?! What makes you think anything changed!?

So sad! Your worried about how to please a woman sexually, even if you busted a nut after just 30 mins she would be happy, even if you could only go 10 minutes she would be satisfied, even if you were done in 5 minutes she would still say she had fun!

So sad! You guys are so blind and disconnected from these woman because you hit and quit and never get to know them! You can have sex with 25/30/50 woman or more, but if you never commit to any to really get to know them your almost on the same knowledge level as a virgin! See what pride does to you

So sad! You act as if any one treats you better for banging many woman, neither men. Or woman treat you any better if you banged lots of woman, opposite! Both men and woman will look down on that and they will know you are a prideful one looking to prove you are better and compete rather than help people

So sad! Your missing on the best part of a woman, seeing her change from trying to impress you to being your side kick, letting all her guard down and trusting you. Are you really valuing sex more than the many other moments you live and breathe?

So sad! Why shut off the woman because she did something wrong? Don't set rules, they are just small advice to keep you safe, until you see a situation that you are committed to fixing.

No more blindness my brothers, wake up, sex is a small thing, don't make it into a main event.