Question about relationships and sex

[Juanto]

When a woman starts decreasing the frequency of sex in a relationship, there seems to be 2 lines of thought about how to handle it. One is you should just start looking for other woman and withdraw your attention, another line says you should court your woman like you used to do more in the beginning (like Corey Wayne suggests among others) and the sex should get back to normal.

What is the take of the experienced DJs here on the subject?

 

[Juanto]

Anyone else?

 

[Trump]

When a woman starts decreasing the frequency of sex in a relationship, there seems to be 2 lines of thought about how to handle it. One is you should just start looking for other woman and withdraw your attention, another line says you should court your woman like you used to do more in the beginning (like Corey Wayne suggests among others) and the sex should get back to normal.

What is the take of the experienced DJs here on the subject?

First one.

If she starts withdrawing the sex, she is slowly starting to introduce change in the relationship, trying to shift the dynamic from your terms to her terms. This gives her what she wants, power and control.

Think about it: if you didn't do anything differently from when you first met, why would she suddenly do something in the relationship that could cause disruption and a power shift? Control.

I don't know who Corey Wayne is but court her like you did? So you do things on her terms so she gets what she wants and still decides when to give you sex? I don't think so. Sex first. Then the relationship.

 

[lizardking82]

It depends on why she's doing this, dude. Maybe she's having a stressful period of her life and is not in the mood for too much sex right now. Maybe she's cheating. Maybe her attraction is lost. Maybe she's bored. The only adult, proper thing to do is try and talk it with her ONCE. If she refuses with anger or anxiety, sth is up so you start rolling in the actions on your side now.

What kinda actions? First of all, wake up to reality. Do not be all into this relationship no matter how much you like or love the girl. Something is off, she rolled the changes, so you do, too. Not to spite her, but because it will hurt you if you keep on with the idea that everything is OK. Less sex and give her less time. That'll get her thinking, too.

And finally, any kinda sudden change in the behaviour of a woman that has been OK otherwise should be seen with doubt and you don't pull out directly, but always be ready to jump a sinking ship.

 

[beforeimgone]

When a woman starts decreasing the frequency of sex in a relationship, there seems to be 2 lines of thought about how to handle it. One is you should just start looking for other woman and withdraw your attention, another line says you should court your woman like you used to do more in the beginning (like Corey Wayne suggests among others) and the sex should get back to normal.

What is the take of the experienced DJs here on the subject?

If she is refusing sex, she is testing you or getting it elsewhere. Very binary situation.

It's best to just leave and get it elsewhere until she straightens up if at all

 

[highSpeed]

If she is refusing sex, she is testing you or getting it elsewhere. Very binary situation.

It's best to just leave and get it elsewhere until she straightens up if at all

Never that simple once you're married. Believe me, sex becomes a power struggle. And once you're married, you don't have the power and she knows it. Sex becomes a tool in her arsenal to manipulate you into giving her your balls. Ever see the guys carrying their girl's bags in the mall? Yep, that's a guy who's given up their balls. Don't give up your balls? You're going to be one frustrated motherf*cker.

 

[beforeimgone]

Never that simple once you're married. Believe me, sex becomes a power struggle. And once you're married, you don't have the power and she knows it. Sex becomes a tool in her arsenal to manipulate you into giving her your balls. Ever see the guys carrying their girl's bags in the mall? Yep, that's a guy who's given up their balls. Don't give up your balls? You're going to be one frustrated motherf*cker.

Relationships, marriage, friendships, etc mean absolutely nothing to women.

The rules that they break or follow come from the male they're involved with. Their power is derived from making said male backtrack on his beliefs. Their control over said male comes from him binding himself with honor and pride and stuff ie not cheating, being honest, etc.

In a marriage or any relationship with a female you can have complete control once you realize that their perspective/morals/boundaries/etc doesn't exist until they hear yours. It's a game

 

[highSpeed]

Relationships, marriage, friendships, etc mean absolutely nothing to women.

The rules that they break or follow come from the male they're involved with. Their power is derived from making said male backtrack on his beliefs. Their control over said male comes from him binding himself with honor and pride and stuff ie not cheating, being honest, etc.

In a marriage or any relationship with a female you can have complete control once you realize that their perspective/morals/boundaries/etc doesn't exist until they hear yours. It's a game

It has nothing to do with perspective in a marriage, unless you have some way of punishing them for bad behavior. Article today talks about a billionaire married for 10 years, had no prenup, now getting divorce. She put in her time, made sure she had 2 kids and is now entitled to billions. Did she make the money? F*ck no but she's getting paid. Look, I don't have any intention of gaming my wife for my entire life. The thought of having to jedi mind trick someone into going my way the rest of my life is exhausting. I'd rather be single, make lots of money (already got that part down cold) and f*ck chicks with no strings attached. Far less game than trying to convince some over indulged, infantalized woman that she has it good. Nope, if she can't understand how great she's got it, I'm sure as h*ll not going to try and mind trick her into it.

 

[beforeimgone]

It has nothing to do with perspective in a marriage, unless you have some way of punishing them for bad behavior. Article today talks about a billionaire married for 10 years, had no prenup, now getting divorce. She put in her time, made sure she had 2 kids and is now entitled to billions. Did she make the money? F*ck no but she's getting paid. Look, I don't have any intention of gaming my wife for my entire life. The thought of having to jedi mind trick someone into going my way the rest of my life is exhausting. I'd rather be single, make lots of money (already got that part down cold) and f*ck chicks with no strings attached. Far less game than trying to convince some over indulged, infantalized woman that she has it good. Nope, if she can't understand how great she's got it, I'm sure as h*ll not going to try and mind trick her into it.

Why do you hold marriage in such a high regard? Marriage means nothing.

Women game men without trying. When the men fail the game, the woman uses him without remorse or grows tired of him and stops fvcking him and ends the relationship. If you don't feel like gaming your wife all the time then you will lose her. She will stop giving you sex. She will be less nice and feminine and will start showing signs of being open to sex elsewhere. Become game or lose.

Game isn't about convincing some female of anything. It's primarily selfish. She will never understand "How great she has it" for many reasons

 

[highSpeed]

Why do you hold marriage in such a high regard? Marriage means nothing.

Women game men without trying. When the men fail the game, the woman uses him without remorse or grows tired of him and stops fvcking him and ends the relationship. If you don't feel like gaming your wife all the time then you will lose her. She will stop giving you sex. She will be less nice and feminine and will start showing signs of being open to sex elsewhere. Become game or lose.

Game isn't about convincing some female of anything. It's primarily selfish. She will never understand "How great she has it" for many reasons

Honestly? I've learned to categorically hate marriage. Unfortunately, that knowledge has come to me too late. Am I bitter? H*ll yes I'm bitter. You can't game someone who doesn't want to be gamed. Dread loss? Chatting up some cutie and then making my wife jealous? Removing my attention? I guess, but if I'm going to go that far, why not complete the deal and f*ck the h*ll out of some other chicks? I know, I know, get gaming or get another woman. And at the end of the day and I've gamed her into going my way, I'm going to be p*ssed for having to do that anyway and resent the sh*t out of her.

Believe me, if you keep her like a carrot on a stick, chasing what she wants from you for a long time or forever, you have all of the "game" you'll ever need.

 

[Roober]

I would say most of the time, the sex decreases because the man is not what the man was. He doesn't keep giving his love, he doesn't keep fvcking her like they did in high school, he gets boring and or lazy...

Sex may decrease as lives get busy, but there should be absolutely no reason for a drmatic decrease. If she is constantly saying no, you are not making her pvssy tingle any more. I am willing to bet this is the case 90% of the time.

And I would agree that you are always "gaming" your lady. I don't mean literally, but she has to feel your love... All the time... Men don't do this, they screw it all up then wonder why they are not getting laid. They go from being a sexual being into a puppy dog. Would you want to fvck a puppy dog?

Now some women aren't very sexual, but you will know that long before you get into an ltr/marriage

 

[beforeimgone]

Honestly? I've learned to categorically hate marriage. Unfortunately, that knowledge has come to me too late. Am I bitter? H*ll yes I'm bitter. You can't game someone who doesn't want to be gamed. Dread loss? Chatting up some cutie and then making my wife jealous? Removing my attention? I guess, but if I'm going to go that far, why not complete the deal and f*ck the h*ll out of some other chicks? I know, I know, get gaming or get another woman. And at the end of the day and I've gamed her into going my way, I'm going to be p*ssed for having to do that anyway and resent the sh*t out of her.

Believe me, if you keep her like a carrot on a stick, chasing what she wants from you for a long time or forever, you have all of the "game" you'll ever need.

Yes, you should still be fvcking other women. No need to be bitter. Women are women and they can get nasty If you don't protect yourself. I would just accept the fact that your woman is like all other women. It makes life easier

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Never that simple once you're married. Believe me, sex becomes a power struggle. And once you're married, you don't have the power and she knows it. Sex becomes a tool in her arsenal to manipulate you into giving her your balls. Ever see the guys carrying their girl's bags in the mall? Yep, that's a guy who's given up their balls. Don't give up your balls? You're going to be one frustrated motherf*cker.

The power is that simple. She took away something she knows you want. And all you can do is stop helping her out and get it elsewhere.

 

[bigneil]

Often it means another man is willing to put up with her BS more than you are, so she is trying to leverage more control over the relationship.

A woman will often leave a man who she cannot control and choose a man who she can control. It doesn't mean he had better game, quite the opposite. This is why we must have principles and hold to them regardless of what she does. Sometimes we'll win and sometimes we'll lose.

 

[beforeimgone]

The power is that simple. She took away something she knows you want. And all you can do is stop helping her out and get it elsewhere.

Exactly, no arguing and no explanations. Try for sex and after you're denied just go get it elsewhere. She will straighten up or she will leave. Binary

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Exactly, no arguing and no explanations. Try for sex and after you're denied just go get it elsewhere. She will straighten up or she will leave. Binary

Yep.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Often it means another man is willing to put up with her BS more than you are, so she is trying to leverage more control over the relationship.

A woman will often leave a man who she cannot control and choose a man who she can control. It doesn't mean he had better game, quite the opposite. This is why we must have principles and hold to them regardless of what she does. Sometimes we'll win and sometimes we'll lose.

You win from getting rid of a albatross like her.

 

[beforeimgone]

;be

You win from getting rid of a albatross like her.

Or lose by caring about getting rid of her

 

[bigneil]

I've said this for a few years now, but it's actually great to end relationships cold turkey when they go awry. That way you preserve whatever good memories you had instead of watering them down with a slow decline to the point where you feel nothing for them and vice versa.

"Never be afraid to lose a woman - if there is one lesson you should take, it is that" - M from 33Secrets.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

;be

Or lose by caring about getting rid of her

So it's nothing to care about. She knows she's marginalizing you and you don't have to take it.