If you don't know anything about status or how to attain it, stop giving advice.

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Guys on here who have no idea of what status really is or how to attain it in regards to getting hot girls should just shut up and stop giving advice, I mean it. I have seen various ways some guys on here giving advice try to find a cop out or some sort of a way to avoid looking like fools:

1. Giving open ended answers such as "it varies, a scientist is high status in one area while a rockstar is in another", we know idiot, but we were talking about getting hot girls and now we're stuck wishing your dad would have pulled out.

2. Downplaying its importance by dissing social media, in fact I just know that anyone on here who is dissing social media does not get hot girls because most guys with experience in the game just know how big it is to most hot younger women in today's world, at least in western society. These guys are the worst because they spread their trash on to younger and newer guys here who are being hurt by this piece of garbage advice.

But you can also see it with guys getting angry and bitter towards women who tend to value status, these guys aren't getting any because the guys that do get it are often not so bitter despite seeing the miserable state of the dating world.

If you do not know what the high status man is that gets hot girls or the kind of guy who fits the bill, it is clear that you don't actually run in the same world hot girls run in or have much experience with them.

With that being said, if you have no idea of what status or how to attain it in regards to getting hot girls, shut up.
 
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Guys on here who have no idea of what status really is or how to attain it in regards to getting hot girls should just shut up and stop giving advice, I mean it. I have seen various ways some guys on here giving advice try to find a cop out or some sort of a way to avoid looking like fools:

1. Giving open ended answers such as "it varies, a scientist is high status in one area while a rockstar is in another", we know idiot, but we were talking about getting hot girls and now we're stuck wishing your dad would have pulled out.

2. Downplaying its importance by dissing social media, in fact I just know that anyone on here who is dissing social media does not get hot girls because most guys with experience in the game just know how big it is to most hot younger women in today's world, at least in western society. These guys are the worst because they spread their trash on to younger and newer guys here who are being hurt by this piece of garbage advice.

But you can also see it with guys getting angry and bitter towards women who tend to value status, these guys aren't getting any because the guys that do get it are often not so bitter despite seeing the miserable state of the dating world.

If you do not know what the high status man is that gets hot girls or the kind of guy who fits the bill, it is clear that you don't actually run in the same world hot girls run in or have much experience with them.

With that being said, if you have no idea of what status or how to attain it in regards to getting hot girls, shut up.
So what's your answer of what status is and how to attain it?

What is YOUR status?
 
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Fvck status. It helps, sure, but there are plenty of guys getting laid with nothing but confidence and smooth talking.

Being confident in yourself conveys high status, whether it's true or not. Work on your inner game.
 
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Here are my thoughts on status. You will either think this makes perfect sense, or you will think it's nonsense.

To understand what status is, we must first go back in time to medieval Europe. Medieval Europe had a hierarchical structure called feudalism. It had 4 tiers. At the top was the king, below him was the nobility, below them were the knights, and below them were the peasants. Many other parts of the world had systems similar to European feudalism, but I am using Europe as the example because European societies advanced further than any other ones.

The king owned all the land in the kingdom, but he gave some to nobles because it was hard for him to administer such large amount of land. In return, the nobles gave him loyalty and knights in times of war. The nobles gave some of their land to knights in return for military service. The knights gave some of their land to peasants, who produced food for everyone, including themselves.

In a society like this, a persons status is very apparent.


With the invention of gunpowder, the king became more powerful, while the nobility became less powerful, and the knights virtually disappeared. Also, new classes grew such as merchants and artisans, as well as the "priest" class who had existed all along.

Eventually, kings grew more powerful because they controlled the military, as well as the tax revenue.

But kings were replaced by democracy, and true "Presidents" don't have a life term. Normal citizens gained rights, and gained protection from their own military (the U.S. Constitution prohibits the State from forcing citizens to house soldiers, for example), and it is written in many constitutions that civil law supersedes military law. So a soldier cannot get away with murder or theft, for example.

As nice as these changes in society sound, it also created somewhat of a "fake" society, where those who truly created and protected society (those with power, i.e. rulers and military) did not have as much power as they naturally would have.

With industrialization, some merchants became very wealthy and were able to influence the government.

Add to this all the inventions of modern society that detach us from reality even further (television, radio, popular music, etc.) and it is now very hard to see who truly has "status" in society. Truthfully, there is no absolute monarch, and even the military does not have absolute power.

In such a democratic society governed by civil law (as opposed to martial law), the people who are seen to have "status" actually have a very false status. But if enough people believe something is true, it will become true.

So here is a list of some people who have a faux status in society today....

Famous actors/actresses, famous musicians, professional athletes....

Hooters girls, bartenders (both male and female), strippers.....

Business owners, frat guys....

And I'm sure there's a million others, but truthfully they are all citizens under the law.

Or you could use the argument that status=power, so this would mean that the richer you are, the more potential status you have.... although nobody is above the law.

So I'm not sure that "status" really exists other than to people who are too stupid to see through the fakeness of modern society.

Am I supposed to worship the bottle girls working at clubs? I don't think so.

Also, females have a very fake and unnaturally high position in today's society. It's utterly ridiculous.
 

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Status is simply how you compare to other men in your same age, race, class and culture group. Are you THRIVING or are you struggling?

I'll be the first to admit that LOOKS, fame and a fun personality will take you far in the short term. However, MONEY is the smartest approach to gaining status simply because it automatically solves lots of problems. In some cases, it can even solve the LOOKS problem if you are willing to go under the knife.

If you're not finding ways to put MONEY in your pocket your future is probably going to be grim as far as pulling HOT women goes no matter how many weights you lift or PUA books you read. Because after a certain age MONEY is the only status. A guy in his 40's or 50's who is broke is a LOSER no matter what else he has going on.

I'm only in my early 30's but I'll still give this advice to younger guys. Make MONEY and plan to build something in your life of significance. Don't spend your days sucked into the dysfunctional d*ck measuring contest of "alpha behavior" and other horse sh*t that won't matter in 20 years.

Why do you think immigrants and foreigners are literally BUYING the United States under our feet? Because when they come here they focus on MONEY while we focus on being "hip" posting on Facebook and chasing shallow women. Who do you think will have the edge later in life?
 

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in fact I just know that anyone on here who is dissing social media does not get hot girls
Categorically, patently false. Do I need to publish more 98+ rated photos? I've taken about 10 gorgeous women on dates in the past 6 months. Only one was my Facebook friend. I don't have Instagram. All you need is text (and email).

Most dating coaches (see Corey Wayne) say we use WAY TOO MUCH social media.

Try creating actual media. Or antisocial media.
 

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This is such a limiting belief. Why limit yourself to saying that the only way to get women is through status? I bet you that scum of the earth drug dealers and ex cons get laid more than you do and they've got infamy to their name. No one here needs to relegate their methods of interacting with people based on what you say. Get off this site already. All you do is make posts about how hard it is to get laid or how much it sucks out there. You're a worse influence on the newer guys than anyone else here.
 

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Status comes from mastering skills that people value.

Social media is just another means of communication. Just like all means of communication you can over do it. Posting your whole life on social media ruins curiosity-- curiosity is a key component to initial attraction. I don't advise against it, just don't abuse it.
 

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Oh FFS put your ego down. You are not the sole source of getting hot girls. Also, define a "hot girl". I bet you mean dumbass bimbos who sit doing their nails all day. Here is a newsflash, not all men want this. This is not a site for you, or your outlook, or your views on what women you want and how to attian them. Some men want completely different things from you.

Yes, indeed, a scientist can pull intelligent women. A rockstar will pull any, if they are famous. Brad Pitt, as another poster said, got dumped. Women have totally different values too.

I bet you are thinking about ****ing stupid instagram sloots. and you'll come back in ten years saying "All women are stupid ho's who branch swing from one guy to another. All women are stupid trash and it's all value" etc etc.

Newsflash mate, not all guys want stupid fvcking bimbos. We have a variety of interests and things which attract us. I like homely, quiet women. Some guys are into blonde chicks who are fitness models. Some like women with good careers. Get over that fact.

Oh, while I am ranting, I have been actually sabotaged by some of the received wisdom on here. Its not a formula, I know women who marry and date down. Why? Because they are insecure, they like being the together one. Many dumb slvts want the status guy, true, you need your shyt together. Some had loser dads, and they don't want the captain of the football team. George Clooney@s wife - MEH. Life is different for different folks.
 
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Just reading the responses so far shows me how out of touch most of you in here are and have no idea of what you're talking about at all when it comes to getting hot girls. I would say that @Amante Silvestre is probably the guy only guy on the thread that made a good post, the rest are coping and living in a tight little bubble of their own thoughts.

@Urbanyst well you and I are familiar with this immigrant debate all too well aren't we? What immigrant groups make the most money? What immigrant groups struggle the most with women? The answer is clear.

I am not saying money doesn't matter, in fact I would argue that it has always mattered as guys who grew up rich enjoyed higher quality girls in their teens than guys who grew up poor.

The issue is, HOW you use the money matters more than actually having and HOW you use the money is status, but very few if any guys on here actually know the answer to that.

Status is quality friends, being a part of quality circles that hot girls run in, having a good perception among those hot girls, being a part of the "in crowd", and having that kind of a life.

But how many guys could have answered that? None.

How many guys on here know how to get that? None.
 

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Guys on here who have no idea of what status really is or how to attain it in regards to getting hot girls should just shut up and stop giving advice, I mean it. I have seen various ways some guys on here giving advice try to find a cop out or some sort of a way to avoid looking like fools:

1. Giving open ended answers such as "it varies, a scientist is high status in one area while a rockstar is in another", we know idiot, but we were talking about getting hot girls and now we're stuck wishing your dad would have pulled out.

2. Downplaying its importance by dissing social media, in fact I just know that anyone on here who is dissing social media does not get hot girls because most guys with experience in the game just know how big it is to most hot younger women in today's world, at least in western society. These guys are the worst because they spread their trash on to younger and newer guys here who are being hurt by this piece of garbage advice.

But you can also see it with guys getting angry and bitter towards women who tend to value status, these guys aren't getting any because the guys that do get it are often not so bitter despite seeing the miserable state of the dating world.

If you do not know what the high status man is that gets hot girls or the kind of guy who fits the bill, it is clear that you don't actually run in the same world hot girls run in or have much experience with them.

With that being said, if you have no idea of what status or how to attain it in regards to getting hot girls, shut up.
This just in: Not all advice is good advice--in life and dating.
 

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Status is simply how you compare to other men in your same age, race, class and culture group. Are you THRIVING or are you struggling?
Not necessarily. Even if you are thriving doesn't mean you have status. A Doctor who spent years and years and years studying has status, he may not be thriving. A business who got lucky on a few deals may be thriving, but he has no status. One does not equate to the other.

I'll be the first to admit that LOOKS, fame and a fun personality will take you far in the short term. However, MONEY is the smartest approach to gaining status simply because it automatically solves lots of problems. In some cases, it can even solve the LOOKS problem if you are willing to go under the knife.
I would say education is the smartest approach. When you talk about going under the knife for looks, you are talking very extreme and border illiogical.

If you're not finding ways to put MONEY in your pocket your future is probably going to be grim as far as pulling HOT women goes no matter how many weights you lift or PUA books you read. Because after a certain age MONEY is the only status. A guy in his 40's or 50's who is broke is a LOSER no matter what else he has going on.

I'm only in my early 30's but I'll still give this advice to younger guys. Make MONEY and plan to build something in your life of significance. Don't spend your days sucked into the dysfunctional d*ck measuring contest of "alpha behavior" and other horse sh*t that won't matter in 20 years.
OK, get money, get money, get money, get money, get money so you are in 40s, you can pull HOT women and are not a loser. No hot women will be available or even care you have money at THAT age. They want it when you are young and exciting, not when you are in your 50s.

It's kind like a 40+ year old caring about a car he drives. At that age he doesn't really care. At that age he values friends and relationships and marriage much more than the car he drives.

Why do you think immigrants and foreigners are literally BUYING the United States under our feet? Because when they come here they focus on MONEY while we focus on being "hip" posting on Facebook and chasing shallow women. Who do you think will have the edge later in life?
These immigrants buying up the States didn't work at a 9-5 job saving up coin. They are corrupt, they steal, they hide, they trick, they have connections. They need a safe haven to put it in, out in the West.

I think to focus on money in your 30s you are wasting your time. You can ALWAYS make money. Focus on education, focus on health, focus on making connections, focus on getting married.

It is much easier to get women and married when you are younger with less money than older with more. Girls care more about AGE than money.
 
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Fvck status. It helps, sure, but there are plenty of guys getting laid with nothing but confidence and smooth talking.

Being confident in yourself conveys high status, whether it's true or not. Work on your inner game.
This. Women feel status; it's not something that they really consciously analyze from a rational perspective. It only exists in the moment.

It's why in restaurants the busboy, who objectively has lower status than any guy there, has more ready access to mating opportunities with the hot waitress than the wealthy patrons (assuming he has confidence & game or looks or is even just the last man standing at 3AM when the waitress is horny).

It's why on any given night, when you're feeling really good about yourself you go out and pull girls or even have girls throwing themselves at you; and when you feel sh1tty, you don't--even if you work the same job, drive the same car, have all the same past accomplishments.

It's why some women with wealthy, successful, confident husbands slum it with the pool boy.

You only have so much control over how the environment perceives you or the values by which that environment assigns status; you do have control over how you feel & how you choose to interact with said environment. But don't take it from me ;) I just drive sh1tty cars & tell girls I work in fast food & I never have steamy pornstar sex with girls I just met who have rich parents & are often already dating guys with way higher status than I do.
 

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The issue is, HOW you use the money matters more than actually having and HOW you use the money is status, but very few if any guys on here actually know the answer to that.

Status is quality friends, being a part of quality circles that hot girls run in, having a good perception among those hot girls, being a part of the "in crowd", and having that kind of a life.

But how many guys could have answered that? None.

How many guys on here know how to get that? None.
There is no such thing as the "in crowd" once you leave high school and college. Unless you're talking about Hollywood.

Every city you travel to will have groups of people living in that city who are THRIVING and making lots of money. Its not just one social circle either. You have the artists in one circle, the empire builders in another circle, the "heal the world" people in another circle, the industry leaders in another circle, the different ethnic group inner circles and the list goes on.

There is not this one magical "in crowd" you can join and then every HOT woman suddenly wants to jump in your bed. Wanting to be part of an "in crowd" is for people with the emotional maturity of a teenager. Those high social circles develop due to similar interests and levels of success. People make friends with people who are on their level.

MONEY alone does not give you instant sex appeal. But it is a tool that makes it easier to get around whatever is damaging your sex appeal. What you do with your TIME will impact which women want to date you. Without MONEY, you have limited choices regarding how you spend your time though. Making sandwiches all day and taking the bus home isn't "sexy" to a hot woman. Traveling around the world is. You need MONEY to travel around the world.

Ever notice women who are complete strangers are very willing to chat you up on almost any flight? Even more if you travel first class. Not the same case on a city bus. I'm the same man on a city bus as I am on a first class flight. Do the math.
 

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Fvck status. It helps, sure, but there are plenty of guys getting laid with nothing but confidence and smooth talking.

Being confident in yourself conveys high status, whether it's true or not. Work on your inner game.
I agree......OP is full of horsehockey....I am an old veteran who lives in a hotel with zero social status....lol.... and I don't want any social status I might add.... and I am in an LTR with a hot young real blonde...before her I pulled countless hot YOUNG women back to my room,all the guys that live here look at me with amazement.
 

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@Urbanyst

You know there is no "in crowd" how?

There is ALWAYS an in crowd and groups where hot girls run in and associate with, it doesn't end in high school, college, or the 20s. In fact there is always an inner circle of people that includes hot girls, important guys, and important social experiences. Denying it shows me you have no idea of what you are talking about.

You can make a lot of money and still struggle to get hot girls because of this very reason, you have no status in the right crowds.
 
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