Creating Infatuated Women - Female Orbiters

[beforeimgone]

Hi guys,

I havent posted here in a while because a lot of the lost and bitter guys post more often than the quality guys which leads to a not so cool environment.

The point of this post was a theory that I've been working on. It's a theory of how to proactively game women instead of waiting on **** tests.

Every since I learned of game, I tried to boil everything down to one or two words. Everything being approaching, fvcking, ltr, arguments, **** tests, frame, etc. It all boils down to controlled selfishness and indifference. Once I figured out how to use those tools in situations with women, I started wondering if this is the end. Getting bvtches is all about getting my needs met, listening to the occasional outburst, and letting her bury herself with bad decisions without interfering physically or emotionally.

That lead to lots of pvssy, infatuated/crazy women(not a bad thing most of the time), my stuff getting broken, pvssy on call, etc. The only problem was that I couldn't do anything proactively to increase the love they felt. I couldn't extend the honeymoon phase. I had to wait on a **** test or orchestrate some event to make my value increase which in my eyes is unnecessary work.

I decided that I want to make the honeymoon phase last forever and turn her logical brain off around me for good. I wanted to be their personal deity. I want two or three to live with me and be willing to take a bullet for me just because. I figured out a way to proactively game women and extend the honeymoon phase. Thus far I have been successful. I have had women get tattoos of my name, give me their money, etc. I use the sunken cost theory and broken glass theory in my dealings with women. That is my secret.

The method is nowhere near complete, but it is beautiful. It's also effortless and doesn't cause me to break Frame ever. If you have any ideas, suggestions, or improvements please feel free to post them. I am very interested in improving this method or helping you implement this so you can help a woman reach deep levels of happiness ;-)

What do you think?



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[TheMonkeyKing]

When you get past the shock value, this is a pretty good post. [I agree about the lost and the bitter by the way. It gets fcking tiresome]

You do have to get them doing stuff for you, investing in you. A lot of the time they actually want to do it; the maternal, nurturing instinct extends beyond the care of offspring.

listening to the occasional outburst, and letting her bury herself with bad decisions without interfering physically or emotionally.

This is a massive thing. Just. Don't. Get. Involved. Let her have her tantrum, whether the storm and talk her down from her high horse. My go to line: "Stop being grumpy". Then leave them be for half a day. Go back, "How are you feeling now?". When you're just solid and unwavering, they always come back. Always.

Some guys seem to assume that being rid of emotions is going to have a negative impact on their lives. For me, it's been the most liberating process I've ever gone through. Positive emotion, contentment and happiness, quite often, are simply the absence of negative emotion. It's not a man's place to be emotional, it's a woman's.

My ideal is a harem as well. I have a few on rotation that call on me regularly, but always looking to make new additions. Though they do not directly know each other, they know of each other, yet they will still call on me. It's not uncommon for guys to have multiple girlfriends these days.

The way I am at the moment, I'm not sure I ever want 'just one' woman. As is said, 'One is too close to none'. Never say never, but she will have to be something pretty special for me to commit. And, she will have to prove her commitment to me, over and over again, forever.

 

[Desdinova]

The point of this post was a theory that I've been working on. It's a theory of how to proactively game women instead of waiting on **** tests.

New theories are always welcome in my books. The more tools men have, the better they get at succeeding.

The only problem was that I couldn't do anything proactively to increase the love they felt.

IMO, that has to do with them riding the c0ck carousel. They're used to having their heart broken and not falling in love. Try going for women who are a bit younger and less experienced. You might see a bit more love and devotion from them.

 

[beforeimgone]

When you get past the shock value, this is a pretty good post. [I agree about the lost and the bitter by the way. It gets fcking tiresome]

You do have to get them doing stuff for you, investing in you. A lot of the time they actually want to do it; the maternal, nurturing instinct extends beyond the care of offspring.


This is a massive thing. Just. Don't. Get. Involved. Let her have her tantrum, whether the storm and talk her down from her high horse. My go to line: "Stop being grumpy". Then leave them be for half a day. Go back, "How are you feeling now?". When you're just solid and unwavering, they always come back. Always.

Some guys seem to assume that being rid of emotions is going to have a negative impact on their lives. For me, it's been the most liberating process I've ever gone through. Positive emotion, contentment and happiness, quite often, are simply the absence of negative emotion. It's not a man's place to be emotional, it's a woman's.

My ideal is a harem as well. I have a few on rotation that call on me regularly, but always looking to make new additions. Though they do not directly know each other, they know of each other, yet they will still call on me. It's not uncommon for guys to have multiple girlfriends these days.

The way I am at the moment, I'm not sure I ever want 'just one' woman. As is said, 'One is too close to none'. Never say never, but she will have to be something pretty special for me to commit. And, she will have to prove her commitment to me, over and over again, forever.

Yes, exactly. Traditional relationships were created to control women and men. They kinda suck. I was thinking of creating feelings so strong in our harem that we become leaders of our own personal cult

 

[beforeimgone]

New theories are always welcome in my books. The more tools men have, the better they get at succeeding.



IMO, that has to do with them riding the c0ck carousel. They're used to having their heart broken and not falling in love. Try going for women who are a bit younger and less experienced. You might see a bit more love and devotion from them.

You may have misinterpreted what I meant. I receive the love and infatuation from women that deal with me, but I was looking for a way to increase those feelings even more in order to deify myself in her mind. I wanted to make them feel that honeymoon stage forever. I wanted to have them wrapped around my finger so tight that it physically would hurt them if they couldn't be around me.

traditional game doesn't allow you to actively game their hamster after some time. In the beginning, you try to bed her and receive **** tests. Pass those and the sex comes. In order to keep the attraction, you need to continually pass **** tests. The **** tests comes when she feels they should. I found that you can't construct a **** test of your own to pass.

I see this as waiting and reactive game in a way because there is nothing a man can do but do his own thing and Wait on her tests to come to you.

What I'm talking about when I mention using the sunken cost theory is getting her to do things for you regardless of how menial. This way you can actively game her hamster and increase attraction without having to wait on a **** test. Know what I mean?

 

[bigneil]

We learn to love only through rejection. Ultimately, you need to reject women (at the right time) to get them to feel love.

Anxiety is separation anxiety, and it leads to desire.

It will dissolve into a power struggle though, it's hard to keep the pendulum balanced and it swings out of control.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

we become leaders of our own personal cult

Like ol' Charlie Manson, you mean?

I'm not so bothered about being in any sort of 'control' over people. And, I have every intention of continuing to provide as well, when the feeling takes me. But, indeed, why limit ourselves to being adored by one woman, when we can be adored by a dozen. Two dozen.

And you are right about selfishness and indifference. Very insightful.

 

[beforeimgone]

We learn to love only through rejection. Ultimately, you need to reject women (at the right time) to get them to feel love.

Anxiety is separation anxiety, and it leads to desire.

It will dissolve into a power struggle though, it's hard to keep the pendulum balanced and it swings out of control.

Yes, true. I find that rejection comes in the form of mini power struggles. But that's when the selfishness kicks in.

If she isn't pleasing, there is no reason to talk to her in my opinion. If I ask her to do something and she denies then I leave and try to get some other chick to do it. The funny thing is, she ends up breaking her back to do it first me when I get back. It's beautiful

 

[beforeimgone]

Like ol' Charlie Manson, you mean?

I'm not so bothered about being in any sort of 'control' over people. And, I have every intention of continuing to provide as well, when the feeling takes me. But, indeed, why limit ourselves to being adored by one woman, when we can be adored by a dozen. Two dozen.

And you are right about selfishness and indifference. Very insightful.

Yes precisely. Those women would do anything for him. And thanks!

 

[Julian]

What do you mean by sunken cost an broken glass theorys can you elaborate

 

[beforeimgone]

What do you mean by sunken cost an broken glass theorys can you elaborate

Yes. Sunken cost theory states that the more time and money you sink into anything, the more attached to that thing you become which makes it less likely that you can give it up.

The broken glass theory is correcting the small problems before they become huge problems. For instance, calling her out when she raises her voice so you don't have to deal with a female that yells

 

[kenpiffyjr]

Mastering Dread Game.

When you speak of harems and what not, you are subliminally pointing towards the use of dread game and how it affects women.

In my recent post I have advised for men to frame situations to women so the men control the situations by treating their situations like a harem.

Men grow up in western society like harems are evil, unrealistic, and "pimpish"...when if you think about it...everything in current society is to punish the natural order of things. "Traditional" relationships are to hide the nature of men being allowed to have a harem of women. Advocating for "Nice guys" are there to hide the fact that women in general prefer the bad boy. Women can't say they love men with other women...and they can't say they love men who treat them poorly because it pulls the cover off of them being illogical and not of equal to men.

Women will not treat you like Sh!t for your ability to control other women. They will see that you "get the secret" and actually treat you better and with more respect. Let the woman be a physically attractive woman on the 8-10 scale and watch the reaction. Watch your own mother look at you like you get it. These things have happened to me.

This in a sense is what you are talking about in being proactive. Does it make women love you forever...I don't know. Their love has a lot to do with respect so if you maintain your respect, you perhaps can maintain their love....but - you are always fighting with nature using nature...and nature says women are hypergamous so that makes women unpredictable.

 

[Desdinova]

You may have misinterpreted what I meant. I receive the love and infatuation from women that deal with me, but I was looking for a way to increase those feelings even more in order to deify myself in her mind. I wanted to make them feel that honeymoon stage forever. I wanted to have them wrapped around my finger so tight that it physically would hurt them if they couldn't be around me.

I didn't mis-interpret you. I honestly don't believe that a woman with a high lay count can feel that permanent honeymoon phase with a new man. They can do it when their lay count is low or non-existent, and they can achieve it with a man they were interested in before they hopped on the c0ck carousel. Other than that, the women in question are permanently damaged.

That's why I suggested trying it with women who are young with a low or non-existent lay count.

 

[beforeimgone]

I didn't mis-interpret you. I honestly don't believe that a woman with a high lay count can feel that permanent honeymoon phase with a new man. They can do it when their lay count is low or non-existent, and they can achieve it with a man they were interested in before they hopped on the c0ck carousel. Other than that, the women in question are permanently damaged.

That's why I suggested trying it with women who are young with a low or non-existent lay count.

I see where you're coming from. Once a female has lived a life full of cvck she will be less likely to experience the bliss of love.

You may be very right. I am in my twenties and handpick the chicks I allow to do stuff for me because they can get crazy fast. Younger ones are more likely to allow themselves to fall deep in love and reach that cult like state. I normally don't go for glaringly obvious slvts because they appear to have lost their feminine touch and I can't deal with a non feminine female for longer periods.

I suspect that this method would make a carousel female fall harder than the average female due to her lack of feeling something so strong in herself for such a long period.


How would this method go on an older chick that's been on the carousel and is jaded?

Mastering Dread Game.

When you speak of harems and what not, you are subliminally pointing towards the use of dread game and how it affects women.

In my recent post I have advised for men to frame situations to women so the men control the situations by treating their situations like a harem.

Men grow up in western society like harems are evil, unrealistic, and "pimpish"...when if you think about it...everything in current society is to punish the natural order of things. "Traditional" relationships are to hide the nature of men being allowed to have a harem of women. Advocating for "Nice guys" are there to hide the fact that women in general prefer the bad boy. Women can't say they love men with other women...and they can't say they love men who treat them poorly because it pulls the cover off of them being illogical and not of equal to men.

Women will not treat you like Sh!t for your ability to control other women. They will see that you "get the secret" and actually treat you better and with more respect. Let the woman be a physically attractive woman on the 8-10 scale and watch the reaction. Watch your own mother look at you like you get it. These things have happened to me.

This in a sense is what you are talking about in being proactive. Does it make women love you forever...I don't know. Their love has a lot to do with respect so if you maintain your respect, you perhaps can maintain their love....but - you are always fighting with nature using nature...and nature says women are hypergamous so that makes women unpredictable.

Mastering Dread Game.

When you speak of harems and what not, you are subliminally pointing towards the use of dread game and how it affects women.

In my recent post I have advised for men to frame situations to women so the men control the situations by treating their situations like a harem.

Men grow up in western society like harems are evil, unrealistic, and "pimpish"...when if you think about it...everything in current society is to punish the natural order of things. "Traditional" relationships are to hide the nature of men being allowed to have a harem of women. Advocating for "Nice guys" are there to hide the fact that women in general prefer the bad boy. Women can't say they love men with other women...and they can't say they love men who treat them poorly because it pulls the cover off of them being illogical and not of equal to men.

Women will not treat you like Sh!t for your ability to control other women. They will see that you "get the secret" and actually treat you better and with more respect. Let the woman be a physically attractive woman on the 8-10 scale and watch the reaction. Watch your own mother look at you like you get it. These things have happened to me.

This in a sense is what you are talking about in being proactive. Does it make women love you forever...I don't know. Their love has a lot to do with respect so if you maintain your respect, you perhaps can maintain their love....but - you are always fighting with nature using nature...and nature says women are hypergamous so that makes women unpredictable.

Yes, the way you described it does indeed sound like what I meant. Gaming the hamster and increasing the feelings would be a more accurate term.

You're right, it may or may not make them love you forever. I alluded to that only to increase the odds of a valuable member posting on this thread. I had to be a little gimmicky. The truth of the matter is Love is the opposite of hate and the two can easily be intertwined so one would need to be careful. Lol. Like you said women are unpredictable. The only thing that these methods guarantee is stronnnnng feelings.

The areas to maintain mostly would be self respect(broken glass theory), indifference, controlled selfishness, and utilizing the sunken cost theory.

This method works for me and allows me to effectively live with two women at the moment, but occasionally things don't go perfectly. How do you think this method can be improved?