Why do men commit?

[Red Legg]

Rarely do men get dumped for being too much of a man. I will never sell out or compromise.

Happens all the time really....HB9's have so many options that they really don't care how manly you are,in fact there is always someone out there that is more manlier than you are.Some of my girlfriends orbiters are more alpha than me,one of them has huge muscles and is younger than I and has more money,he has pursued her for years,but she doesn't like him.For your HB9 to leave so suddenly tells me that she didn't like you,I could be wrong,if she returns do some investigative work on whether she likes you or not.You also stated yourself that she was very manipulative but then go on to still think that she liked you...no she didn't like you at all...she just manipulated you into thinking that she did.I know of a 24 year old HB10 that is infatuated with me (borderline obsessed) I will not give her the time of day because of her morals,but there is no reason for her to like me I am a disabled veteran almost twice her age ! why the he!! does she like me??she has millions of options lol they like who they like sometimes there is no rhyme or reason behind it.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Happens all the time really....HB9's have so many options that they really don't care how manly you are,in fact there is always someone out there that is more manlier than you are.Some of my girlfriends orbiters are more alpha than me,one of them has huge muscles and is younger than I and has more money,he has pursued her for years,but she doesn't like him.For your HB9 to leave so suddenly tells me that she didn't like you,I could be wrong,if she returns do some investigative work on whether she likes you or not.You also stated yourself that she was very manipulative but then go on to still think that she liked you...no she didn't like you at all...she just manipulated you into thinking that she did.I know of a 24 year old HB10 that is infatuated with me (borderline obsessed) I will not give her the time of day because of her morals,but there is no reason for her to like me I am a disabled veteran almost twice her age ! why the he!! does she like me??she has millions of options lol they like who they like sometimes there is no rhyme or reason behind it.

Can they like you enough and just want a man of their own and not care about options?

 

[Roober]

I agree 100%. Case in point review my OP from a couple weeks back: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/thread...e-gone-nc-right-wrong-thoughts-please.242188/.

Bottom line: Went exclusive with a HB9.5 after she came on strong and really pushed for it. I'd known her for a while and we had a lot of fun, lot's of good chemistry etc., so why not. A short time later I called her out for very bad behavior after she had a nuclear meltdown and flew into a jealous rage at the dog park because I merely LOOKED at another woman. I walked home alone after she wouldn't walk with me. When she did come home 5 minutes after I did, she changed into nicer clothes she initially came over with, said she didn't need a ride as she could get one, wasn't interested in anything I had to say and walked out. I let her walk and didn't chase. I assume she changed into nicer clothes because one of her beta orbiters met her somewhere and gave her a ride.

So far it's been NC by her and me for three weeks. I suspect now we will never talk again. Despite the high value I continually demonstrated and she validated along with the very high interest level she had (it was off the charts until this episode), she left me to prove a point, rather than apologize and try to work things out as the OP states.

So per @btownbuck2012 post, my exgf, the HB9.5, chose a beta over me (I assume as I haven't heard from her) because I called her out for bad behavior (I mean she literally stood there with her mouth open in dismay when I did it--like no man ever dared to do this before) and hasn't called to apologize--just to prove a point.

So if women are naturally attracted to more confident, DJ, non-s*it taking men, who stand up for themselves, why do they leave these men (me) and choose the beta--the supplicating she-male who gives into every demand and dares not to cross them? Makes no sense. A woman of value CANNOT be satisfied with a guy like this.

So the theory goes: Man dates hot HB9-10. Man acts DJ. Woman becomes wildly attracted. Woman misbehaves or **** tests DJ. DJ, being a DJ calls out woman for bad behavior. Woman says "How dare you! I always get what I want! Plus, with all the dating apps available I have MANY options and orbiters right now, GOODBYE!" Woman runs to beta--because he's always there. Woman eventually gets sick of beta because he's such a wuss. Woman meets a DJ and falls for him because he's a real MAN. And the cycle repeats...

True?

Thoughts?

If there is one thing I am really working on now, it is womane5e. Women and me communicate in different ways. What she says isn't ever what is really bothering her. That's for you to figure out unfortunately...

But it is fun trying to decipher their games. Based on your scenario, I would think she wasn't feeling your love. In one way or another, you weren't hitting the right buttons

 

[Roober]

If men commit, they need to just stay men! The problem is most let the woman work her magic by limiting the one resource we want from them

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If men commit, they need to just stay men! The problem is most let the woman work her magic by limiting the one resource we want from them

How can you stop them? You can't legally take it.

 

[Red Legg]

Can they like you enough and just want a man of their own and not care about options?

I think most hot women would rather have multiple "options" but of course will have a starting pitcher.

Can they like you enough and just want a man of their own and not care about options?

Hot women have lot's of orbiters I am pretty convinced that most want their cake and to eat it too.

 

[SuckItUp]

It all comes down to filtering and treating all women the same. Just because a woman is hot af doesn't excuse ratchet/crap behavior. Woman run away from men of principle because they're low quality women. I know it doesn't seem like it, but if a girl throws tantrums for ridiculous **** I don't care if she looks like <insert hot model name here> I'm out.

The best women don't give a crap if you look at other women because they are secure enough to know that they've got the goods and that any guy dumb enough to stray is losing out.

These types of women are rare mind you, hence their value.

 

[Roober]

How can you stop them? You can't legally take it.

And that is the real problem at the end of it all... Once married, she can cut off the sex and there is nothing you can do about it... Your best bet is to work on regaining attraction....

Well, also be smart when you are married...
-don't get with an unsuccessful woman. She needs to work and earn her keep.
-Have your own stash. Something she or nobody else knows about. Even if it means your just putting away a little bit each month.

 

[BeExcellent]

Can they like you enough and just want a man of their own and not care about options?

Yes. It's called character.

The best women don't give a crap if you look at other women because they are secure enough to know that they've got the goods and that any guy dumb enough to stray is losing out.

These types of women are rare mind you, hence their value.

Absolutely correct.

 

[Gan]

My hypothesis is that you need to use Red Pill type tactics at the beginning to build the suspense, create the fantasy, etc. but that you need to shift to being a good dude at some point. This is probably a very gradual thing that should occur and I think the key is to let it occur on your terms. Not hers.

Apart from creating a fantasy through red pill tactics, it can also be used to filter out women to your liking. You're basically putting them through a test. You reward those who pass your tests by being a little more flexible with them, as long as they don't take things for granted.