I just want to thank the red pill community..

[sazc]

I get them to meet outside the club.

Oh I guess we're going to hear the "Neil should be with a woman his age" story. Is sazc Presbyterian by chance?

chill out gramps, not every comment needs to be taken to def-con 5 situation, you know?

 

[sazc]

True, so if one man dates 10 non-strippers, and another dates 10 strippers, won't the man who dates strippers essentially get a lesson in manipulation, and thus in the process learn it as you say, and be that much better at it himself?

You would think this but people are seriously SLOW. Esp men when it comes to great pvssy..... From what these boards tell me, great pvssy can be like heroin - really hard to drop cold turkey. You see it from a different side because of what you know from here, etc. The majority of men dont have this advantage.

I've said it before - the majority of people are not self introspective they dont examine their own patterns, what is motivating them and which choices lead to consistent failure.

 

[bigneil]

You would think this but people are seriously SLOW. Esp men when it comes to great pvssy..... From what these boards tell me, great pvssy can be like heroin - really hard to drop cold turkey. You see it from a different side because of what you know from here, etc. The majority of men dont have this advantage.

I've said it before - the majority of people are not self introspective they dont examine their own patterns, what is motivating them and which choices lead to consistent failure.

Indeed she tried to break me. I can only imagine how many men she has broken that way. I might be the first man to ever LJBF her, and the first man to ever say goodbye. At least it never turned into talk about money, on either side. That would have made it so much easier. Imagine if we could just pay our way out of relationship problems, like we do in court with traffic citations? Quitting cold turkey (30 days ago now) was painful, I won't lie. Bob Dylan seemed to express it best in "Simple Twist of Fate" (1975).

 

[fastlife]

I was just at a family wedding Friday. My cousin was there. He's a blonde, cute surfer from cali, mid 20's and ripped. At lunch my relatives were telling me about all the MILF action he was getting at the bar the night before. Apparently he was great entertainment. Cool dude.

What I found odd was, at the wedding, he had ZERO game. There were obviously single ladies around his age there, but he stood next to my uncle/us/the family most of the night chillin and having some drinks. Of course I didn't say anything but I really did wonder why this good looking, built, tan, cali boy wasnt at least trying. I concluded he must not know how. Damn shame.

Rejection isnt that hobbling. Rejection is not personal. It IS worth it to try.

Probably too small of a sample size to judge. If the venue doesn't have any girls who make my cutoff or I'm there with friends that I don't get to see often, or if I'm just tired or a little oversexed, then I'd be in the same boat as your cousin. Sustaining certain relationships has way more longterm residual value than a one off.

But back to the OP, I had very much the same experience as @cola working a couple years at a Hooters-like restaurant. Those girls learn quickly the ins-and-outs of male validation as currency, and are never quite the same. That said, Instagram & Tinder & Twitter has done a pretty good job of getting 'civilian' girls up to speed.

If you're interested in gaming these girls (though if you work with them, for me at least, you won't be for long), then from my observation here are the guys they're actually sleeping with:

• The staff--cooks, busboys, managers, bouncers. Proximity & all that. Limited options at four in the morning.
• Guys from out of town--no reason to string them along as cash cows.
• Super masculine regulars--the loudest, most brash 'customers.' Hint--chances are they don't have a tab at the end of the night.
• Guys from her civilian life--college guys, military guys, gym rats, who are generally kept unaware of her work life. These relationships are almost always rife with infidelity once she's been working there a couple weeks.
• Drug dealers--coke, pot, molly are all huge in the industry life.

But if you sleep with one girl at these venues, then you have a good shot of running thru every other girl. Competition is fierce--especially when male attention = earning potential. These girls can be fun plates; some of them are total sweethearts; but if you're trying to do the whole monogamy thing, don't lol. The same conditions that have a girl working in a strip club or a breastaurant (low economic class, absentee father, usually mercenary mother who doesn't see a problem with exposing her daughter to that environment) are only exacerbated by the environment. The best girls don't last there long.

 

[sazc]

@fastlife that's true and he was getting a lot of family ribbing for the MILF's in the bar the night before, so maybe he decided not to add fuel to the family roast-fire and just hang back.

 

[sazc]

@bigneil we see it here all the time, buys who are not self aware make it to thee boards and start posting and coming to understand items, ideas, things that they have never contemplated before. It's definitely a time of growth for everyone. But, as we see consistently, it takes a long time for them to shake the old habits.

At least here they can begin to develop a sense of self introspection and being really self aware when it comes to females and their patterns.

 

[zekko]

What I found odd was, at the wedding, he had ZERO game. There were obviously single ladies around his age there, but he stood next to my uncle/us/the family most of the night chillin and having some drinks. Of course I didn't say anything but I really did wonder why this good looking, built, tan, cali boy wasnt at least trying. I concluded he must not know how. Damn shame.

I don't think it's correct to conclude the guy has no game. You said he's from California, maybe he genuinely wanted to spend time with his family at a family wedding. Maybe he didn't feel like chasing women. A guy doesn't have to spend every minute of his waking life panting after girls like an alley dog.

Besides, maybe he prefers to pick up women on the beach where he can leverage his surfer body, who knows?

Also, Corey Wayne advises not to chase women. Rather, just to show up at events like this and have fun, and let them approach you. I'm not a big Corey Wayne advocate, but I thought I'd throw that out there.

 

[cola]

@bigneil I just don't understand.

If you are wealthy, look good for your age & have red pill knowledge why tf do you date strippers? It's so many hot 25-40 year old's who look just as good as strippers who have real jobs that actually contribute to society and potentially less mental issues than strippers.

About 17 of the 20 dancers I've met so far are bat sh*t crazy. The job attracts a certain type of woman. Lazy, unintelligent, superficial, addicts.

It baffles me your obsession with these chicks. The managers literally have talk to these girls like they are small children.
They are strippers for a reason.
You can't say the money. Most of them don't even own frikkin cars. They blow the money on clothes and shoes. They don't even have the mental faculties to rationalize "I can do this 10 years tops. I should save as much as possible"

 

[sazc]

@zekko yea, fastlife made a different point on the same subject that made me realize that maybe he decided not to put himself out there in order to reduce the amount of family ribbing he was getting, because he was getting some from the night before.

 

[cola]

@zekko it can't be money=status=attraction, because clearly these men have money.

But I don't know what a high status male looks like in your mental picture frame, but my ideal of a high status male isn't in the frikkin strip club blowing 1000s of dollars he could be investing and getting a return on with dirty strippers !

High status is a state of mind which vibrates and attracts high status items and connections including but not limited to money.

Hopefully that's not too "woo-woo" for you. I believe you attract what you are.

 

[Dingo]

Damn... Another dream shattered...

 

[bigneil]

@bigneil I just don't understand.

If you are wealthy, look good for your age & have red pill knowledge why tf do you date strippers? It's so many hot 25-40 year old's who look just as good as strippers who have real jobs that actually contribute to society and potentially less mental issues than strippers.

About 17 of the 20 dancers I've met so far are bat sh*t crazy. The job attracts a certain type of woman. Lazy, unintelligent, superficial, addicts.

It baffles me your obsession with these chicks. The managers literally have talk to these girls like they are small children.
They are strippers for a reason.
You can't say the money. Most of them don't even own frikkin cars. They blow the money on clothes and shoes. They don't even have the mental faculties to rationalize "I can do this 10 years tops. I should save as much as possible"

Translation: cola is not scoring any strippers. Why not pick up the barmaids at strip clubs like I have done twice in the past 3 months?

Cola, if you work at a strip club protecting strippers, it's extremely hypocritical of you to make fun of them for being stupid and crazy. You've talked to 20 strippers. I dated nearly 40. They are the same as any equally young, equally hot girls IMO.

They are strippers for a reason - they have hot bodies and we want to have sex with them. If you could pick up strippers for free, you would. My last stripper had a 135 IQ.

 

[Dash Riprock]

However, the simple fact is: money = status = attraction.

Though this may hold true for some women, I've seen MANY instances where guys with money have zero game. I think $ is good in the short term in attracting a woman but you need more to keep her than a fat wallet. And, the women who do stick around JUST for this reason will almost certainly divorce later (monthly maintenance paycheck for the woman) or cheat or both. It's a rare combination when a man has financial and DJ acumen at the same time. Kind of like the 30-30 guys in baseball. Plus, SMART guys with money don't let on they have a lot of money. I've found it's the posers who act like millionaires are the guys who are cash strapped or living paycheck to paycheck. Read: "Millionaire Next Door" sometime. It will change your thinking about $ forever.

Maybe it's because I live in one of the premier tech entrepreneur hubs in the US in Colorado. I see successful tech guys all the time who are about as beta as they come with no game. Most are the quintessential "nice guys."

 

[sazc]

@cola he'll never give you a direct answer. he always avoids the question but then tries to call the person out for not being able to date attractive females like he does. It's a legitimate question and one I would like to know the real answer to, as well.

 

[bigneil]

@cola he'll never give you a direct answer. he always avoids the question but then tries to call the person out for not being able to date attractive females like he does. It's a legitimate question and one I would like to know the real answer to, as well.

What answer?

Half the girls I date are strippers, the other half are not. I just picked up a 45 year old HB8 last night and she kissed me passionately at the Capital Grille Bar, then let me drive her away in her car. She was one of the craziest women I ever kissed. She was intentionally trying to scare me when she started driving and saying "You seem to think you can tell me what to do. Do you think you can tell me what to do??" Nearly all gorgeous women are f*cking crazy. I still try to seduce gorgeous women.

But this one made me truly miss my last girlfriend (every girl does). She never acted crazy like that. She stopped stripping but you guys will never let her live it down. Again, show me a hotter girl who you had a better time with. This theory you have that strippers are always worse than non strippers is just false.

When you are on the road, making good money and you can pick up most girls you meet, you go to where there are lots of hot, young women. I've dated beautiful women since 1987, at least 100. My last girl was one of the best girls I ever dated. Minute for minute, my time with her was more precious than with any other human. If her being a stripper made her so bad, where are the proportionally better non-strippers? This is the question you guys never provide a direct answer to.

 

[sazc]

@cola see?

 

[zekko]

@zekko it can't be money=status=attraction, because clearly these men have money.

If you look at it from the point of view of a strip club, things get a little skewed. Strippers have guys throwing money at them all day long, obviously they aren't going to be impressed.

In the "real" world though, if a guy is successful it can evoke a certain type of status. That doesn't mean the guy has to throw money at a girl. But if a guy is financially successful, it can say something about his ambition and abilities. Being financially secure can make a guy more confident also, and self sufficient (which is supposedly sexy). But some guys will just always be insecure, money or not.

That said, I fully agree that there are many ways to acquire status without bringing money into it.

 

[cola]

Translation: cola is not scoring any strippers. Why not pick up the barmaids at strip clubs like I have done twice in the past 3 months?

Cola, if you work at a strip club protecting strippers, it's extremely hypocritical of you to make fun of them for being stupid and crazy. You've talked to 20 strippers. I dated nearly 40. They are the same as any equally young, equally hot girls IMO.

They are strippers for a reason - they have hot bodies and we want to have sex with them. If you could pick up strippers for free, you would. My last stripper had a 135 IQ.

Smh where to begin.

1.) I have dated strippers before I even had this job.

2.) Several of the girls have expressed interest, including the bar maid. However, the few 100 extra tax free dollars a week is more important to me than having sex with anyone there.

3.) I can protect them just fine. Are they crazy and a little dingy, yes.
Do they deserve to be assaulted? No.

4. IQ tests are not a valid barometer of intelligence, this has been proven. Also their are different types of intelliigence. You can be a musical genius and illiterate as f*ck at the same time.
The type of intelligence im referring to when I speak of the girls is rational discernment aka common f*cking sense.

 

[Serenity]

One time, a guy who owned a modelling company showed my picture to a bunch of his models.

Notice the bold text. There's exceptions to every rule in game, a few does not count as a general rule. They're models and make a living off selling their looks, so yeah they're in it for the money.

If you have a lot, it will make you more attractive.

It wouldn't be YOU they're attracted to, so no. It would bring a bunch of gold diggers though that doesn't really give a fuck about YOU, they'll be very attracted to your bank account though. You better pay them generously or they'll show you how they really feel about you.

 

[zekko]

@zekko yea, fastlife made a different point on the same subject that made me realize that maybe he decided not to put himself out there in order to reduce the amount of family ribbing he was getting, because he was getting some from the night before.

I get this impression that you think a guy has to be out chasing tail every minute of the day. The only explanation you can come up with for not doing it is because he might take some ribbing from his family?

I mean I know some guys like that, but they have very little going for them (except maybe good looks), they're not that bright. Maybe he didn't feel like chasing women that day? Guys do have other things on their mind on occasion, you know?