Its impressive how the ideal in shape guy model changed so much in 10 yrs

[Who Dares Win]

I was just checking thinking about recent movies and videos compared to the ones from just 10 yrs ago and then early 00s.

Not sure what you think but it seems to me that the requirement to be a guy worth to be complimented for his body shape are strongly increasing.

I will show you few examples, zyzz who hit his prime in late 2009 was considered top aestetics back then while now compared to the new ones looks skinny, then steve cook which you probably saw on bodybuilding. com then sergi costance and calum von moger which are ones leading now togheter with other huge guys.

Point is those guys are not considered body builders in the ronny coleman jay kutler sense, they are considered to belong in the aestetics type.

What was a "wow worth physique" is now considered just in good shape.


Zyzz

Steve Cook

Sergi Constance

Calum Von Moger

 

[AttackFormation]

Every image in this thread is of a man on steroids from start to finish. If people are too ignorant to be aware of that, that's just less people you have to care about the opinions of.

I also don't think any except damaged women expect or look up to steroid use, and the dumber ones are the ones most likely to fall for someone who claims his results are from hard work and dedication™ and not pinning his @ss. So what's to complain about.

 

[bigneil]

I prefer the second guy (blue shorts) look. The first guy and the last 2 guys (especially the one with the beard) appear gay to me.

Anyhow, we always had muscle heads. I give these guys credit for their bodies, but if they aren't independently wealthy their priorities are probably wrong. But gay men get off seeing themselves flex so they spend all day lifting in many cases.

I imagine most women see these men the way men see women who are overly muscular or overly skinny (i.e, weird), but some women like it.

None of these men look like they could fight. They are too busy flexing.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

I recently was privy to a discussion elsewhere online , where women were asked to indicate their preferred male body types, similar to those picture below.

Far and away the most (equally) popular were 'Ottermode', 'Athletic', 'Builtfat' and 'Bearmode'. There were maybe one or two votes for 'Built' and 'Bodybuilder'; with the remainder not really having any say, unsurprisingly.

If nothing else, 'Built' and 'Bodybuilder' are competition level states, and almost impossible to maintain full time. Some girls may like it as a novelty - a bit like banging a bird with fake knockers. Also there are untold health risks associated with steroid use.

 

[bigneil]

Think Tom Brady looks Athletic? That's SteroidAthletic.

I'm BuiltFat en route to OtterMode.

 

[BeTheChange]

Sitting firmly in the Atheletic camp. The most desirable body type. All the girls I've seen tell me my body is great and that I shouldn't get any bigger. Probably because I'm 5'9. If I was taller I'd go for bodybuilder level but it wouldn't look right on anyone sub 6ft.

Besides, I don't have the time or appetite to push for bobybulder status nor the will to pump myself full of steroids to achieve it. The vast majority of men with that kind of muscle mass are juicing.

Neil, without trying to sound like an ass, you are actually fatter than that chubby fat pic if your recent pics are anything to go by. Not bad for a 47 year old but if your personal trainer is telling you, you are 12% bf he is lying to you.

 

[bigneil]

Neil, without trying to sound like an ass, you are actually fatter than that chubby fat pic

Want to bet me $1000?

Also, when you're 6'5" 220 like I am, you are the size of an NFL Quarterback. I can kick your ass and you know it. Tell us your dimensions.

You saw one photo, from last month. Let's see a photo of you with no shirt on.

 

[BeTheChange]

Want to bet me $1000?

Also, when you're 6'5" 220 like I am, you are the size of an NFL Quarterback. I can kick your ass and you know it.

You saw one photo, from last month. Let's see a photo of you with no shirt on.

Lol. Go for it. I have a calvin klein male model level physique. You won't win this one.

 

[bigneil]

Neil, without trying to sound like an ass, you are actually fatter than that chubby fat pic if your recent pics are anything to go by. Not bad for a 47 year old but if your personal trainer is telling you, you are 12% bf he is lying to you.

Sorry for the bathroom mirror selfie but this is a live picture. 6'5" 220. Those jeans are size 34x34.

 

[El Payaso]

Yeah, second guy is the best looking body. Not too roided looking. Just right. My ideal body to have is the lean swimmer look.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Tons is possible natural. It all takes time. Most ladies don't need the biggest guy and like a somewhat lean build. So lose.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Really depends on individual constitution - genetics. Neil for example, is more likely heading towards Bearmode than Ottermode - the difference between an ectomorph and and endomorph - the difference between a rugby player and a basketball player. They're just built different is all; as naturally different as being black or white. The main thing is to maximise potential and be happy with the hand you're been dealt.

 

[Fruitbat]

Nowadays, the "prison anal rapist" look is very en vogue.

Doodling vile tats up your sleeve and pinning huge amounts of roids.

Very rarely see these guys with attractive women over the age of 18.

But it's women with these "unattainable physiques" which is generally not being overweight.

I've never been really ripped but quite happy with the women I have managed to get with over the years. Playing up like this is the equivilant of being a blonde bimbo - forever working for that female validation.....no wonder chicks, decent chicks, don't go for that.

 

[Fruitbat]

Sorry for the bathroom mirror selfie but this is a live picture. 6'5" 220. Those jeans are size 34x34.

Can I just add re ass kicking....if you chop someone up with a hatchet from behind when they aren't looking, your weight means nothing. Also, paying a hitman to rub someone out isn't helped with gym work.

The one who wins is the one willing to go the furthers. Not being provocative to you personally but the MMA guys do make me laugh as when it comes down to it, it's dead on crazy **** that wins battles. If you hit hardest, first, you usually win, unless you have a granite jaw.

Leaders of men are rarely big worked out dudes. Those are the men who run into bat for the guys with brains.

I am neither a leader, not worked out, I'm just saying it's ruthlessness which wins. Mobsters don't need muscles, and they are the ultimate "hard men" not even MMA fighters mess with.

 

[bigneil]

Can I just add re ass kicking....if you chop someone up with a hatchet from behind when they aren't looking, your weight means nothing. Also, paying a hitman to rub someone out isn't helped with gym work.

The one who wins is the one willing to go the furthers.

Wow, you seriously need to get laid.

I don't fight dirty, but I do work in Government security on computer networks and as recently as 2015 I used to train the Army and Marines on how to shoot.

Back on topic. I prefer my own physique and think I could take any of those guys in a fist fight (and Fruitbat could win with a house key and hatchet), except maybe Bearmode. Bearmode would get a bear hug and it would be over. I'd have two shots to win, via reach.

 

[Fruitbat]

Wow, you seriously need to get laid.

I don't fight dirty, but I do work in Government security on computer networks and as recently as 2015 I used to train the Army and Marines on how to shoot.

Back on topic. I prefer my own physique and think I could take any of those guys in a fist fight (and Fruitbat could win with a house key and hatchet), except maybe Bearmode. Bearmode would get a bear hug and it would be over. I'd have two shots to win, via reach.

Do you want approval? Well done, you're a man. I think these kinds of discussions are for overgrown kids.

Getting laid thank you. I didn't need to dedicate my life to being a "big man" or overtly masculine professions to do it either. My ego and self esteem are fine without this macho bull****.

Point I was making is that you said that because you can kick peoples ass,that makes you somewhat alpha. I'm just saying that it's ruthlessness which wins that battle, not window dressing. I expect a 5ft 2 russian mobster would chase you off pretty quickly being honest.

 

[bigneil]

Do you want approval? Well done, you're a man. I think these kinds of discussions are for overgrown kids.

Getting laid thank you. I didn't need to dedicate my life to being a "big man" or overtly masculine professions to do it either. My ego and self esteem are fine without this macho bull****.

Point I was making is that you said that because you can kick peoples ass,that makes you somewhat alpha. I'm just saying that it's ruthlessness which wins that battle, not window dressing.

The photo of myself was directed at BeTheChange who described me as "Fatter than Chubby fat" (between Chubbyfat and FatterThanFatAssFat), based on a single photo taken and published about 20 days ago, when I was 5 pounds heavier.

Being 10%-15% fat and ripped is one thing when you weigh 140, and another when you weigh 220. Namely 70 pounds of extra muscle in the latter example. Oh, that.

I think I accurately described myself as between BuiltFat and Ottermode. My abs are half-way showing. My waist size is the same as it was in high school 30 years ago. Also, without knowing height, weight and age it's hard to compare those body types. Some of those guys pictured are probably 18. I'd bet none are over 40 if any are even over 30. I never took any steroids, but I've eaten organic since 1997.

 

[Fruitbat]

The photo of myself was directed at BeTheChange who described me as "Fatter than Chubby fat", based on a photo taken 20 days ago, when I was 5 pounds heavier.

I think I accurately described myself as between BuiltFat and Ottermode. My abs are half-way showing. My waist size is the same as it was in high school 30 years ago. Also, without knowing height, weight and age it's hard to compare those body types. Some of those guys pictured are probably 18. I'd bet none are over 40 if any are even over 30. I never took any steroids, but I've eaten organic since 1997.

ok, at least you see my point and I see yours. I don't fight anyone unless I know I can win, which narrows it down to OAPs, children and women (small women).

I've come across a few mobsters in my time and seen the fear these people inspire.

Perhaps I'm butting in without context. I'll **** off now!

 

[wifehunter]

Do those guys even lift?

 

[Who Dares Win]

The photo of myself was directed at BeTheChange who described me as "Fatter than Chubby fat" (between Chubbyfat and FatterThanFatAssFat), based on a single photo taken and published about 20 days ago, when I was 5 pounds heavier.

Being 10%-15% fat and ripped is one thing when you weigh 140, and another when you weigh 220. Namely 70 pounds of extra muscle in the latter example. Oh, that.

I think I accurately described myself as between BuiltFat and Ottermode. My abs are half-way showing. My waist size is the same as it was in high school 30 years ago. Also, without knowing height, weight and age it's hard to compare those body types. Some of those guys pictured are probably 18. I'd bet none are over 40 if any are even over 30. I never took any steroids, but I've eaten organic since 1997.

In my experience the body doesnt get the big but ripped memo, it seems like that if you get big it also settles for higher bf while if you lean too much it also cut muscles.

Unless you roid there is no chance to be huge and ripped at the same time unless genetically gifted.

Sure we can influence proportions with diet and training but still certain ratios are hard to achieve naturally.