Men will sacrifice their loved ones for pūssy

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We as a group need to bring certain virtues back to the forefront of our lives. The current condition of society has allowed what used to be foundations of any self-respecting man to go out the window. Virtues such as

  • Dignity
  • Pride
  • Self-sufficience
  • Ambition
  • Passion
Gone are the days where men were looked at as leaders of their domain. Our feminized and emasulated culture has breeded ball-less men. Men afraid of confrontation. Men afraid of effort. Men afraid of hardship. This has caused men to develop and wallow in the SCARCITY MINDSET The single thing that modern men seem to struggle with the most.

If you look at front page the threads have been the same for years:

- 'She said what do I do.'

- 'She blinked twice and is left handed does she like me?'

- 'Ex just contacted me after 12 years NC. FWB?'

These threads are fine. How else are new DJs supposed to learn? However, the root of all these questions is the same. Scarcity. If a man truly felt abundance then these trivial things would not matter becauce he is aware they're plenty of other opportunites.

To become the dominant powerful men we aspire to be we need to internalize a few things.

1. Pūssy is not the end all be all. You should not be compromising any of your virtues to obtain it. It's an abundant good. You have unlimited tries. There's no need to go back to and ex or a flame from years ago. This causes you to miss out on new possibly better experiences. Stop being afraid to be alone. Stop being afraid of the hardship of being lonely for a lil bit.

2. Stop sacrificing everything you stand for for comfort. I have a friend whose girlfriend fūcked the entire social circle. They argued and after a few months he took her back. I don't need to explain what's wrong with this.

3. Learn to be able to solve all of your problems yourself. Asking for advice and help is good and the perfect way to learn but what you should really be learning is the tools to solve the problem yourself in the future. Being able to confidently rely upon yourself in hardship makes this life easier.

4. You are not finished yet. I don't care how old you are or what you've been through you should always be looking for ways to improve yourself and achieve what YOU want. We live life once. You should be striving to each one of your goals. Until death.


If you find yourself consumed with the scarcity mindset or believe you are about to do something questionable. Masturbate. You will make much smarter decisions with the head on your head.
 

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I always thought it's better to be single, alone, zero plates... striving towards self-improvement... (for as long as necessary) and elevating one's SMV than being purely emasculated or controlled in a crappy relationship where the woman is an emotional vampire (your friend, for example, who's gf ran the CC through the entire social circle).

It's not to say go MGTOW, it's to posit fostering strong and masculine independent growth so the DJ has brains and balls to stand tall in a relationship and willing to walk away when disrespected time and time again.

It's truly scarcity if one man thinks his main plate or plates is the best he can do and doesn't strive to increase/improve aspects of himself outside of game and believing he'll never do better. That is the tragedy of his reality.

Never stay in an LTR when ridiculed and put down constantly.That isn't a life well-lived... it will only bring frustration and agony.

Comfort zone = Death of the evolving Don Juan...

Good post, @SmooveMooves, we have to be reminded often of what we're after in life. Not just chasing tail, we DJs should be chasing and striving for improvement.
 
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I've always thought the ones who handle multiple plates also operate in a scarcity mindset...they are simply afraid to go with out. They fear the pipeline going dry. Or if that's not it, then they use the multiple plates to regulate their emotions so they don't get too attached to one and start acting stupid. Which ever the reason, its weak behavior as well.
 

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We as a group need to bring certain virtues back to the forefront of our lives. The current condition of society has allowed what used to be foundations of any self-respecting man to go out the window. Virtues such as

  • Dignity
  • Pride
  • Self-sufficience
  • Ambition
  • Passion
Gone are the days where men were looked at as leaders of their domain. Our feminized and emasulated culture has breeded ball-less men. Men afraid of confrontation.
I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but traditional masculinity is dead, just like traditional femininity is dead. Trying to hold onto traditional masculine principles today like honor, building up your community, and "doing the right thing by women" is not going to get you anywhere.

Either become the Player, the Thug, or the Simp. The Traditional Masculine/Patriarchal Male is dead, no woman wants him anymore because he goes against the new feminist/matriarchal society.

Men afraid of effort. Men afraid of hardship. This has caused men to develop and wallow in the SCARCITY MINDSET The single thing that modern men seem to struggle with the most.
I've always thought the ones who handle multiple plates also operate in a scarcity mindset...they are simply afraid to go with out. They fear the pipeline going dry. .
Because we as men are operating in a market that's DOMINATED by women, there's honestly no way to have a truly abundant mentality, no matter how attractive you are and no matter how many plates you have.

All of your plates can fall off tomorrow, literally, within hours of each other. I've had that happen numerous times. Plus, with the understanding that we are leasing/renting women and the lease could be CALLED at any random moment......there's no way to truly have an abundant mentality


To become the dominant powerful men we aspire to be we need to internalize a few things.....
There's NO WAY for any guy on this website to become a dominant powerful man, unless he becomes a very rich celebrity one day.

1. Pūssy is not the end all be all. You should not be compromising any of your virtues to obtain it. It's an abundant good. You have unlimited tries. There's no need to go back to and ex or a flame from years ago. This causes you to miss out on new possibly better experiences. Stop being afraid to be alone. Stop being afraid of the hardship of being lonely for a lil bit.

2. Stop sacrificing everything you stand for for comfort. I have a friend whose girlfriend fūcked the entire social circle. They argued and after a few months he took her back. I don't need to explain what's wrong with this.
Men develop oneitis because many of them just will NEVER develop their looks, personality, and finances to the point where they are attractive to enough women to go out and acquire more plates over and over and over again. That's the truth.

I tell guys all the time to put women as number 6 or 7 out of their 10 top priorities, but that's not going to change any thing in relation to market forces.

3. Learn to be able to solve all of your problems yourself. Asking for advice and help is good and the perfect way to learn but what you should really be learning is the tools to solve the problem yourself in the future. Being able to confidently rely upon yourself in hardship makes this life easier.
We don't operate in a vacuum. The Top 1% didn't get there due to some individualized, incredible hulk, super human strength. They got there through networking (relying on other people).

4. You are not finished yet. I don't care how old you are or what you've been through you should always be looking for ways to improve yourself and achieve what YOU want. We live life once. You should be striving to each one of your goals. Until death.
Most guys are just not going to make it. I'm sorry.
 
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I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but traditional masculinity is dead, just like traditional femininity is dead. Trying to hold onto traditional masculine principles today like honor, building up your community, and "doing the right thing by women" is not going to get you anywhere.

Either become the Player, the Thug, or the Simp. The Traditional Masculine/Patriarchal Male is dead, no woman wants him anymore because he goes against the new feminist/matriarchal society.





Because we as men are operating in a market that's DOMINATED by women, there's honestly no way to have a truly abundant mentality, no matter how attractive you are and no matter how many plates you have.

All of your plates can fall off tomorrow, literally, within hours of each other. I've had that happen numerous times. Plus, with the understanding that we are leasing/renting women and the lease could be CALLED at any random moment......there's no way to truly have an abundant mentality




There's NO WAY for any guy on this website to become a dominant powerful man, unless he becomes a very rich celebrity one day.



Men develop oneitis because many of them just will NEVER develop their looks, personality, and finances to the point where they are attractive to enough women to go out and acquire more plates over and over and over again. That's the truth.

I tell guys all the time to put women as number 6 or 7 out of their 10 top priorities, but that's not going to change any thing in relation to market forces.



We don't operate in a vacuum. The Top 1% didn't get there due to some individualized, incredible hulk, super human strength. They got there through networking (relying on other people).



Most guys are just not going to make it. I'm sorry.
What about just becoming a rich guy? Would that work? Not a celebrity.
 

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What about just becoming a rich guy? Would that work? Not a celebrity.
Becoming a rich guy without the celebrity to go along with it......still means you are operating in a market that's dominated by women. The only way this changes if you have a lot of money, a lot of celebrity, AND you look good. I.E., a Justin Timberlake, or a Chris Brown, or a Bruno Mars, or a Barack Obama.

But guys, there's nothing wrong with being either the Player, the Thug, or the Simp. Me personally, I'm the Player, there's no way I'm Simpin' and I'm damn sure not becoming Ray Ray or Pookie.
 

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I've always thought the ones who handle multiple plates also operate in a scarcity mindset...they are simply afraid to go with out. They fear the pipeline going dry. Or if that's not it, then they use the multiple plates to regulate their emotions so they don't get too attached to one and start acting stupid. Which ever the reason, its weak behavior as well.
And not only that, but typically any woman that is a "plate" is low-value. I'd rather have 1 good woman than a bunch of low-quality plates. Now of course this does not preclude having plates as free pr0stitution service.
 

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And not only that, but typically any woman that is a "plate" is low-value. I'd rather have 1 good woman than a bunch of low-quality plates. Now of course this does not preclude having plates as free pr0stitution service.
That's great, but you have to FIND a "good woman" first.
 

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All of your plates can fall off tomorrow, literally, within hours of each other. I've had that happen numerous times. Plus, with the understanding that we are leasing/renting women and the lease could be CALLED at any random moment......there's no way to truly have an abundant mentality.
The value of age, maturity, and life experience is that you're not going to fall down and cry when this happens. You might be a little saddened, but oh well, sh!t happens. If you have to go without for a few weeks, your member isn't going to fall off. There will be more women along sooner or later. The world is full of them. There's your abundance.
 

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The value of age, maturity, and life experience is that you're not going to fall down and cry when this happens. You might be a little saddened, but oh well, sh!t happens. If you have to go without for a few weeks, your member isn't going to fall off. There will be more women along sooner or later. The world is full of them. There's your abundance.
Good point, but I compare this situation to job market.

- On one side, you have the Employer with the vast amount of resources, networks, market share, political power, internal talent pool, and external talent pool (people who applied to work that they didn't hire).

- On the other side, you have the Candidate with a good resume, a couple degrees and a lot of applicable experience.

The Candidate can be working one job right now, have that job end, and then have to go back on the market to find another job. Now, based on his good profile, in a matter of time he should get more interviews, job offers, etc., lined up. But it's that "matter of time" factor that creates a sense of urgency, and that sense of urgency makes it hard for any prudent Candidate to ever seen the job market as an "abundence".

The Employer, with all of their resources and power, is in more of a state of abundence.

When it comes to the dating market, Attractive Men are the "Candidate" and women are "The Employer". It's why I keep saying we are NOT the prize. The Candidate has to go out and create his opportunities through sending our resumes, emails, attending networking events, etc., which is fine. But the Employer has all of this money, resource, power, and wealth to where ALL of these opportunities are knocking on his door.

Attractive Men have to go out and FIND/SEDUCE/GATHER women. But Attractive Women have all of these Attractive Men lined up, knocking on their door.
 

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The market is for women. There will be scarcity for men as long as women rule the market. We are the weaker sex by default because we do not have a pssy and it will not change in our lifetime or our childrens lifetime because we are not needed for survival anymore like nature intended it. The balance is now forever ruined until a nuclear war happens and a few humans survive without modern technology.

Also all this talk about scarcity being the main cause, hell yeah it is, and it is completely normal and will only increase as the value of women and desperation of men increases. FEELING lonely is when your brain is telling you that something is wrong, thats why the feeling of loneliness over time can lead to depression. Your mind is punishing you if you do not take action like a man is suppose to do, but sometimes we are too afraid and confused to know where to start.

Our fathers and grandfathers should have teached us how to hunt, but they didnt understand what they were doing either so now we are here on Sosuave trying to understand everything.

These are basic facts based on the current market:
You need to work A LOT harder than any women no matter how unfair it is,
- You need a better physique than most men no matter what your basic genetics are, meaning you might have to eat and work out like CRAZY
- You need a career that leads to money, power, social status if you want to keep a woman interested for a long time which would be preferred when raising kids if that happens

= Because you do well in your career, meaning better than most and your physique is also better than most, you will most likely be able to choose more women and your current girlfriend will notice this, hence her treatment of you will be better and overall happiness increased.

Its a really simple solution, only the work required is endless. It comes to a point where even pick up gurus like Owen from RSD says "is it even worth it? I DONT KNOW". When we look at that plate of tuna and rice and you know a semi hot woman is eating chocolate for dinner while drinking jeger bombs all weekend long getting attention every minute, you will encounter the thought of just giving the fuk up. WTF is the point, right? Im eating healthy pretty much every day and working out and I have to work my azz off for a date. But we continue because its in our DNA to go at it till the heart gives out, survival of the fittest. Believe, even when there is no reason to keep going we do. Positivety is key.
 

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When it comes to the dating market, Attractive Men are the "Candidate" and women are "The Employer". It's why I keep saying we are NOT the prize.
Doesn't this contradict with women as the gatekeepers of sechs while men as the gatekeepers of exclusivity? :eek:
 
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Becoming a rich guy without the celebrity to go along with it......still means you are operating in a market that's dominated by women. The only way this changes if you have a lot of money, a lot of celebrity, AND you look good. I.E., a Justin Timberlake, or a Chris Brown, or a Bruno Mars, or a Barack Obama.

But guys, there's nothing wrong with being either the Player, the Thug, or the Simp. Me personally, I'm the Player, there's no way I'm Simpin' and I'm damn sure not becoming Ray Ray or Pookie.
What allows you to be the player?

I thought you were always saying how the market is ****ed up.

Because you maximized your looks, personality, and finances?
 

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I dont get guys who dissapears after getting à girlfriend.

Your friends who suddenly says: i have a gf so cant see you

Than hé reppear when single.

So can't really respect them

2)
I've also meet à bunch of mothers who worked, took care of the kids, cooks.. basically working/raising the kids/house cleaning etv... while having à similar or higher income... when meeting such mothers/women... what the point of they male
 
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Doesn't this contradict with women as the gatekeepers of sechs while men as the gatekeepers of exclusivity? :eek:
Actually the motto should be: "Women are the gatekeepers of pvssy.....Men are the gatekeepers of dyck." The problem is that in this market, PVSSY is worth a whole hell of a lot more than DYCK. If we are talking stocks here, PVSSY is like a share in Apple while DYCK is like owning a small international company's stock. BOTH are valuable, but we know which one is clearly more valuable to the market.

What allows you to be the player?

I thought you were always saying how the market is ****ed up.

Because you maximized your looks, personality, and finances?
The Player, The Thug, and The Simp have all adapted to the new market, which is basically understanding that women dominate it. Because women dominate it, you are there to SERVICE them, what does that mean? It means:

- You say what she wants to hear

- You dyck her down good and when she wants it

- You cater to her feelings, emotions, wants, and needs

- If you got that "dough", you better be "spending"/"tricking" some of it off on her

- You better NOT embarrass her by being an outright h0e and flirting/cheating with other women

- You better NOT be embarrassing by being ugly, fat, broke, or lame, because that doesn't make her look good in front of other people.

If you do all of this or most of this, you are considered a REAL MAN. The Player, The Thug, and The Simp understand all of this and have tailored their approach/management of women to this new market. It's the Traditional/Patriarchal Man who is still operating under an old definition of masculinity and is not doing any of the above.....

Routinely, guys on this forum talk about the Beta/Blue Pill "fag.got" and the White Knight. Those are other words for "Simp". I have news for you guys.....the Simp, White knight, Beta Fag.got is getting SCORES of a.ss out here today, because he's doing all or most of the listings above. It's why I say most of the guys on the Manosphere are OUT of fvcking touch today and their rhetoric is bullshyt.
 
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Actually the motto should be: "Women are the gatekeepers of pvssy.....Men are the gatekeepers of dyck." The problem is that in this market, PVSSY is worth a whole hell of a lot more than DYCK. If we are talking stocks here, PVSSY is like a share in Apple while DYCK is like owning a small international company's stock. BOTH are valuable, but we know which one is clearly more valuable to the market.



The Player, The Thug, and The Simp have all adapted to the new market, which is basically understanding that women dominate it. Because women dominate it, you are there to SERVICE them, what does that mean? It means:

- You say what she wants to hear

- You dyck her down good and when she wants it

- You cater to her feelings, emotions, wants, and needs

- If you got that "dough", you better be "spending"/"tricking" some of it off on her

- You better NOT embarrass her by being an outright h0e and flirting/cheating with other women

- You better NOT be embarrassing by being ugly, fat, broke, or lame, because that doesn't make her look good in front of other people.

If you do all of this or most of this, you are considered a REAL MAN. The Player, The Thug, and The Simp understand all of this and have tailored their approach/management of women to this new market. It's the Traditional/Patriarchal Man who is still operating under an old definition of masculinity and is not doing any of the above.....
That makes sense. I'm not sure I can do it. Even if a girl does find me attractive, which is a maybe, I'm too socially awkward. And truthfully, I don't even care to do any of this ****. I don't exist to impress a girl or her social circle.

These days, if you tell a girl that you want to be a stand-up gentleman and raise children with the utmost integrity and morals, she will say...

"That's nice. Give me some money."

And despite all the bull**** games that females play in this matriarchal society, it's very rare to even find a girl who is worth anything more than ****ing once. Yet, they assume a value that is out of this world. Is this game even worth playing?

How do you personally cater to females needs? Or do you?

Maybe the people in the Manosphere just don't want to play. ***** isn't worth it to them. Maybe they are the smartest of us all.

Keep in mind that females are ****ing useless. How they got this power is beyond me and it pisses me off. I don't even want to talk to them if that's how they're going to be.
 
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And despite all the bull**** games that females play in this matriarchal society, it's very rare to even find a girl who is worth anything more than ****ing once. Yet, they assume a value that is out of this world. Is this game even worth playing?
That's true. And yes, you have to make a decision on if you want to play the game or not. You could go MGTOW or you could sell your soul like I did lol. I tried the MGTOW shyt, but I couldn't stay on it. I NEED pvssy, sorry lol.

Maybe the people in the Manosphere just don't want to play. ***** isn't worth it to them. Maybe they are the smartest of us all.
The Manosphere is full of a bunch of posers and liars if you ask me.

- Many of these guys talk about "NEXTING" a chick if she quote, unquote "is out of line" and that's somehow going to make you more of a "man". All that shyt does is make you alone and keep you ranting on discussion boards.

- Many of these guys talk about how they don't tolerate any shyt off a woman, well, it's impossible to be in any type of relationship with a woman these days without learning how to "eat shyt and like it".

- Many of these guys talk about how they are going their own way, but stay on these forums discussing women. If you are going your own way, that means you don't date women anymore or you maybe only entertain an escort. So there's no need to keep discussing women, go your own way, play video games, or do whatever.

- You also have guys on here who are trying to make a Blue Pill fantasy work, even though they have been exposed to the Red Pill. I was doing this for a while as well, until I realized WTF I was doing.

I think we are just going to have to get used to the new market.
 
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That's true. And yes, you have to make a decision on if you want to play the game or not. You could go MGTOW or you could sell your soul like I did lol. I tried the MGTOW shyt, but I couldn't stay on it. I NEED pvssy, sorry lol.



The Manosphere is full of a bunch of posers and liars if you ask me.

- Many of these guys talk about "NEXTING" a chick if she quote, unquote "is out of line" and that's somehow going to make you more of a "man". All that shyt does is make you alone and keep you ranting on discussion boards.

- Many of these guys talk about how they don't tolerate any shyt off a woman, well, it's impossible to be in any type of relationship with a woman these days without learning how to "eat shyt and like it".

- Many of these guys talk about how they are going their own way, but stay on these forums discussing women. If you are going your own way, that means you don't date women anymore or you maybe only entertain an escort. So there's no need to keep discussing women, go your own way, play video games, or do whatever.

- You also have guys on here who are trying to make a Blue Pill fantasy work, even though they have been exposed to the Red Pill. I was doing this for a while as well, until I realized WTF I was doing.

I think we are just going to have to get used to the new market.
You can get pu $sy without playing by using prostitutes, but to each his own.

Plus, even if I did want to play, I'm not sure I would be good at it. It's kind of a situation of "you can't fire me because I quit."

Eating **** and liking it? That doesn't appeal to me, but neither does celibacy or a lifetime of prostitutes.

And I know for certain that despite the fake games that these girls force me to play, that I am worth more than them because I am a man and I am strong and experienced while they are weak and inexperienced.

I don't want to play their game. I would rather make the rules.
 
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