women havbe so many options it is unreal: real case

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sooooo.... what can we do about it?
Nothing. All men can do is approach, make dates, and never stop. Our gender role is to approach. A woman's gender role is to filter.

This is why a man that fvcks lots of women demonstrates value: a woman that fvcks a lot of dudes has LOW value. A man the sleeps with lots of women is really good at approach, a woman that sleeps with lots of different men is really BAD at filtering.

Embarce your gender roll and try and sleep with as many women as you can, and let women worry about what it all means.
 

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Nothing. All men can do is approach, make dates, and never stop. Our gender role is to approach. A woman's gender role is to filter.

This is why a man that fvcks lots of women demonstrates value: a woman that fvcks a lot of dudes has LOW value. A man the sleeps with lots of women is really good at approach, a woman that sleeps with lots of different men is really BAD at filtering.

Embarce your gender roll and try and sleep with as many women as you can, and let women worry about what it all means.
Interesting reply. Makes sense. However, is it really all that simple?
 

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Be interested to see how you would view/deal with this.
One, accept it. Being frustrated or bitter about the current set of conditions is pointless & unproductive. All we can do is optimize how we play the current market--and to analyze it as objectively as possible. The average girl today has more options and more validation with less effort (a cute selfie every now and then) than a celebrity in the 1940's--it is what it is.

Two, don't take it personally. Girls have to make snap judgments--they just don't have the time or incentive to make in-depth comparisons of their options. If she quits responding to your texts or bangs some other dude, she's just doing the best with the set of information she has at the time. Nothing to feel bad or bitter over.

Three, play the numbers game--horizontally & vertically. With any one girl in any one movement, your chances are super low. But if you're talking to ten girls and hitting them up once a week over the course of the month, then your chances of getting the right girl at the right time goes up considerably. On the same note, if you promise hard monogamy her options aren't decreasing but yours sure are.

Finally, compete on the most favorable terms. On Tinder you're competing against a near-infinite number of options and doing so with the least potential to convey your value. In person, often you're the only guy with the balls to approach her on any given night. Or you might be competing against 2 or 3 guys over the course of the night. With practice, you're able to efficiently and effectively convey your value and to out-compete other suitors (often just by being less desperate and letting them blow themselves out).

Also the good news is that there are way, way, way more young, attractive girls with cool personalities than there are cool guys who know how to push the right buttons and give them the emotions they crave. So with the right tool-set you can meet more quality options in a given week than a girl will in several months. Play that to your advantage and always increase your tool-set.
 

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Interesting reply. Makes sense. However, is it really all that simple?
In a nutshell...

Frame = quality

I guess those getting laid have this frame by default abundance. ...but, what if???

What if, the sh!t hits the fan??? No more getting laid...lost mojo???
 

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In a nutshell...

Frame = quality

I guess those getting laid have this frame by default abundance. ...but, what if???

What if, the sh!t hits the fan??? No more getting laid...lost mojo???
Exactly. Frame is one of those things that seems to move around based on context and circumstances. Casual dating scene, frame remains strong. Relationship, frame withers. Feelings can **** up frame quicker than anything.
 

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Just have to accept the game man. Women will receive TONS of low quality attention from dudes that just want to bust a nut. 98% of it is worthless to them. It's like me walking down the street with a sign reading "Free money to my friends!!!!" And asking people "Are you my friend?" "Yes" "ok heres some free money!" Those will be ****tiest friends a man can ever have, lol. They will never help you move! But this is the world women live in. A world of shallow male "friends" with personal motivations that have to with with their nether regions.

What to do about it.

Build fuucking relationships. Add value to your peniis man. I find that showing a genuine interest in friendship works wonders. It's a balancing act to keep things sexual yet representing a genuine interest in a girl that's saturated with offers. Depth of relationship is what sets you apart. You have to put the sexual intentions to the side just enough to know what her favorite color is, then get back on topic!

Women value attention.

Men value vagina.

Women value attention because the quality of the attention they receive is so poor they are starved for genuine relationships with men. They can disillusion themselves to feel wanted and valued all they want, some really believe it. But the truth is the only thing that awaits them with these desperate guys is a sore vag and dropped calls. Don't be that guy. Be the real guy thats fun to be with.
 

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Just have to accept the game man. Women will receive TONS of low quality attention from dudes that just want to bust a nut. 98% of it is worthless to them. It's like me walking down the street with a sign reading "Free money to my friends!!!!" And asking people "Are you my friend?" "Yes" "ok heres some free money!" Those will be ****tiest friends a man can ever have, lol. They will never help you move! But this is the world women live in. A world of shallow male "friends" with personal motivations that have to with with their nether regions.

What to do about it.

Build fuucking relationships. Add value to your peniis man. I find that showing a genuine interest in friendship works wonders. It's a balancing act to keep things sexual yet representing a genuine interest in a girl that's saturated with offers. Depth of relationship is what sets you apart. You have to put the sexual intentions to the side just enough to know what her favorite color is, then get back on topic!

Women value attention.

Men value vagina.

Women value attention because the quality of the attention they receive is so poor they are starved for genuine relationships with men. They can disillusion themselves to feel wanted and valued all they want, some really believe it. But the truth is the only thing that awaits them with these desperate guys is a sore vag and dropped calls. Don't be that guy. Be the real guy thats fun to be with.
Well said brotha.
 

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One, accept it. Being frustrated or bitter about the current set of conditions is pointless & unproductive. All we can do is optimize how we play the current market--and to analyze it as objectively as possible. The average girl today has more options and more validation with less effort (a cute selfie every now and then) than a celebrity in the 1940's--it is what it is.

Two, don't take it personally. Girls have to make snap judgments--they just don't have the time or incentive to make in-depth comparisons of their options. If she quits responding to your texts or bangs some other dude, she's just doing the best with the set of information she has at the time. Nothing to feel bad or bitter over.

Three, play the numbers game--horizontally & vertically. With any one girl in any one movement, your chances are super low. But if you're talking to ten girls and hitting them up once a week over the course of the month, then your chances of getting the right girl at the right time goes up considerably. On the same note, if you promise hard monogamy her options aren't decreasing but yours sure are.

Finally, compete on the most favorable terms. On Tinder you're competing against a near-infinite number of options and doing so with the least potential to convey your value. In person, often you're the only guy with the balls to approach her on any given night. Or you might be competing against 2 or 3 guys over the course of the night. With practice, you're able to efficiently and effectively convey your value and to out-compete other suitors (often just by being less desperate and letting them blow themselves out).

Also the good news is that there are way, way, way more young, attractive girls with cool personalities than there are cool guys who know how to push the right buttons and give them the emotions they crave. So with the right tool-set you can meet more quality options in a given week than a girl will in several months. Play that to your advantage and always increase your tool-set.
^ Agreed.

Yes girls get a lot of attention, the point is clear women does get a lot of attention!!!!, but why are you even worried about this, did you forgot the DJ lesson? Did Pook told you worry about other guys and dj's. No. Just keep your cool, laugh and move onto things that really matter to you. Be in control, Be self centered, Have things going for you. If all your life is worrying about how many guys talking to your women, Mate you just have fallen into one of her sh#t Test or you have lost the DJ way.

When i feel something is wrong, i do nothing, i say nothing, i just open up my smartphone and start reading the book i need to read (pook)
 

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I usually have more options than women,my options come from having fun,and learning.When fun is your focus women are usually a distant third,being a DJ is about growing..remember what the immortal Pook said "fun shall be thy focus"
 

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Exactly. Frame is one of those things that seems to move around based on context and circumstances. Casual dating scene, frame remains strong. Relationship, frame withers. Feelings can **** up frame quicker than anything.
Yes, if the basis for your frame, is women, money, and emotion. ..it is vulnerable to failure.

The man who builds his house on sand, is a fool.
 

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I usually have more options than women, my options come from having fun, and learning.When fun is your focus women are usually a distant third, being a DJ is about growing..remember what the immortal Pook said "fun shall be thy focus"
Having fun is the panacea to bitterness and insistent worry over her options. Learning is also equally important because you're taking the time to invest in yourself. You'll reap the reward of expanding your knowledge and life skills. That's something a plate can't take away. You yield the higher dividend in this case, thus, who's going to attract more plates, the bitter guy or the fun guy? ;)
 

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The number of times a woman gets hit on in a day is greater than the number of times a man will get hit on in his lifetime. Sad but true.
 

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The only solution is to become exceptional. Rise above everyone else and you won't have a shortage of women to choose from. Easier said than done I know...
 

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When you are on social media you are competing with guys all over the world who don't really have the balls to hit on girls any other way except behind their computer screens and it is so easy to do. When a girl is on Facebook she feels she has celebrity status and is put on the highest pedestal you can find.

This is why Day and Night game work so well, especially day game. When it comes to really approaching in person, you pretty much have a monopoly in the day, she may get a bit of flirting from the guy who serves her coffee, but not many guys have what it takes to put their ego on the line and go for a close. This is how she can tell that you are a man and not one of these betas, which are all trying to take short-cuts.

When you do that you stand out from the rest, you also see chicks as they really are. I have seen some of the most unenthusiastic & boring chicks post updates every hour on how awesome of a time they are having, whilst I am thinking "I was at that party...you will sulking in the corner for the whole night not talking to anyone". Social media can be really fake and just an attention seekers dream land. I think it is good to hit on a few certain targets that you know very well and didn't get a chance to close them properly, but that should be an In-out operation not spending months poking and liking her wall.
The thing is, social media AND real life (day game) are blending together. I know several woman that go to these sci-fi/ comic book conventions that wear cosplay. Some are cute to average looking, but I think the object in REAL life is to NET followers online.

You see, everyone goes home, tags the woman that took a picture with...and they add her on FB. It's a perpetual motion machine.

If they are socialites, you can forget any kind of attention from them, even if it's a female friend to female friend. (Same genders) The popularity of these people so high...they have thousands on their FB feed.

There's this one woman, she only has 2 photos, one shows some cleavage, one is a standard selfie....she accepts EVERY friends request known to man...she gets tons of "Thanks for the add" posts on her page

And she doesn't even LIKE or comment "thank you" to that person. I thought it was a scam site at first, but she knows 2 of the same mutual friends I know in real life

And then, after never having posted to her page in months, she posts, "Oh oh, I reached my 5K of friends, whatever shall I do!"

Social media has given an oversaturation and a false-sense of how popular a person can get.

I've added women i've met at functions..they'd accept me as a friend, but would ignore me if I attempted to chat with them online seeing the "Seen" message.

Women on social media get their 'fix" online, so why bother with human interaction?

Like I said before, every woman I had ever attracted were barely into online interactivity or had stagnant FB profiles. 2 had no internet access IN their homes. So that speaks volumes.

All a woman has to have is a vagina, who gives a crap about what she looks like as long as THAT part of the body functions, right? And that's enough for a horny guy.
 

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Yeah they do have a lot of options but let's take a closer look:

75% of them are terrible options they wouldn't even consider
10% are bad options they don't want.
10% are guys they "settle" for but will bounce on once better options come along
5% are guys they actually want.

If you can get yourself into the 5% category you don't have much to worry about.
 

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I mean, I get some ***** from time to time but the amount of work I put on it (hitting the gym, dressing nice, trying to be social and fun...) is just not really worth it,
Yeah, I keep seeing people in these forums preaching the whole gym, dressing nice, etc. as if the main problem men aren't attracting women, assuming the said dudes aren't working out or dressing that.

"Oh, you're not having success with women because you need to work out, dress nice, etc."

"Um, I do work out and dress nice"

"Oh, hum, well, then then you're meeting the wrong women."

Wash-rinse-repeat.
 

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It is just unbelievable how many options women have nowadays that it makes me sick.

WHAT ARE WE GUYS SUPOSED TO DO TO COMPETE WITH THIS?
They think they have more options, but look at the big picture and you see they can't all have the best guy.
 
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