Do you think women are the real players?

[RichardTheFrog]

And perhaps we're just kidding ourselves?

The average attractive woman knows she can get 90% of the guys she wants.

I could be wrong. I'm just asking.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

No. I think there is just a profound lack of eligible men around. Many are too soft, skinny-fat, needy, overly-romantic, irresponsible with their investment, emotionally unstable and entitled; all the things they shouldn't be in evolutionary terms. To an extent, the world of women are just reacting to that.

Just take the nature of your question as a perfect example; it has an undercurrent of slut-shaming, and promoting a romantic ideology of monogamy.

Women are still putty in the hands of strong men as and when they meet them.

A few minor changes can make all the difference; for example, my flatmate is a raging vegan feminist with a self-righteous attitude towards almost everything. That being said, I've probably converted 5kg of body fat to muscle bulk in the last 3 months, and got a good base tan going for start of summer. Cue the marked change in her attitude towards me; which has gone from indifference to borderline flirtatious, actually asking me out for a drink herself the other night.

Take another, who I know through mutual friends via FB; a solid 9/10, self-made wealth, drives (her own) supercars etc. She has an absolute army of orbiters on FB, yet it's me she seems to 'follow' on FB, commenting on things just after I have, responding to my comment, because I never once reacted to her any differently than I would the next person.

For guys with the right attitude towards life, the market is just the same as it always was.

A man's personal success is less about 'the entire population of men/women', and far more about himself as an individual. It's not about people desiring him, it's about him being desirable.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Of course they are, I learned everything I know from women

What did they teach you?

 

[fastlife]

Women are playing with house money. But they aren't great at the game. If you're one of those guys who wander into the casino with hope, optimism & naivete, then, yeah, you're gonna get played--maybe for everything you're worth. But if you have invested in learning the game, sharpening your skills, and managing risk, you can still make a killing for yourself.

 

[RedZone]

I dont think they are the real players. However, they do take advantage of certain men for sure. What I tell myself is this. We want their p#ssy but they also need our ****. Sure, they could find someone else's but so can we. That's why it's important to stand out. Making them want us more than we want them.

 

[The Duke]

I'd say they are the "natural" players. But when a skilled man enters the game, he will beat the best female player every single time. Just like most women aren't worth having, Most men are weak, needy, and lazy.

 

[fastlife]

They must play this game to eliminate the men who are also playing it just for sex... part of the 90% of men she can get but doesn't want.....

Not quite. Women have a dualistic mating strategy--Provisioning vs. Exciting Sex--that ping off different algorithms & access different aspects of her personality. You'll have more success with more women--yes, even the 'good girls'--by speaking directly to the Exciting Sex portion of her brain and actively disqualifying yourself from provisioning, especially when all of her provisioning needs are spoken for. Otherwise you'll be dealing with the front.

Of course, eventually she'll want more than sexual excitement--so sprinkle in a little comfort--the vague hint of the promise of potential access to provisioning later (or giving her the freedom to pursue that avenue separately).

 

[RichardTheFrog]

A more reasonable perception is that an attractive woman doesn't want 90% of the guys that she can get. This essentially means she must develop ways to disqualify these 90% of men that she has no interest in. Men will perceive this as a woman playing games, and it may well be, but it's not done simply for the pure fun of being elusive. It's most often just a form of management.

Men are no different. Those who are desirable must disqualify 90% of the women they can get but don't want. If they made no effort to do so, they would waste an incredible amount of time and energy on all of the wrong people in which they have no interest in.

Game is simply knowing what those disqualifiers are, and either picking them out or avoiding them, and all people who are desirable enough must partake in it in some manner whether they like it or not. Any desirable woman who doesn't play games might be more of a wh0re as those who do, because she would never say "no", never reject, never keep her legs closed if she did not have some disqualifications in order. They must play this game to eliminate the men who are playing a more manipulated version of it just for sex... part of the 90% of men she can get but doesn't want.....

And yes, sometimes women play a more manipulated version of their own for things such as money & luxury... part of the 90% of women desirable men can get but don't want...

Well I don't know what I can do to make women want me.

My only idea is to get rich, which I plan on doing.

The only way I get approached down town is by putting on a nice shirt and shoes. But what is really the value in wearing nice clothes in the grand scheme of things?

If this is a game, I have no one to play with.

Plus, I have a huge negative in my past in that I went to prison for stalking. I was high on acid and barely even remember it, but it was on national television.

Yes, you read that right. I'm my trolling.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Women are playing with house money. But they aren't great at the game. If you're one of those guys who wander into the casino with hope, optimism & naivete, then, yeah, you're gonna get played--maybe for everything you're worth. But if you have invested in learning the game, sharpening your skills, and managing risk, you can still make a killing for yourself.

What allows them to play with house money?

And what are they actually trying to get out of this game? I assume most men are after *****.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I agree with TMK

Don’t get me wrong women have the game built into them naturally and they are all borderline physcotic to some degree

but the problem is they all operate on the same software meaning once you crack the “code” once, you crack it for all of them doesn’t matter how good looking they are they all fall for the same sh1t

Men have undeniably become weaker and overly emotional in the last 20 years or so social media hasn’t helped I see guys posting pictures with those faggot snap filters on which are designed for children how is any woman supposed to respect that?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Keep their options open, prioritize same-sex friends over lovers, prioritize family over lovers, prioritize work and school, avoid losing control due to alcohol around your significant other, test for congruency, appear open-minded in the beginning and then hang them later when statements contradict, don't fall in love fast.

Keep their options open for what?

What is their ultimate goal?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I agree with TMK

Don’t get me wrong women have the game built into them naturally and they are all borderline physcotic to some degree

but the problem is they all operate on the same software meaning once you crack the “code” once, you crack it for all of them doesn’t matter how good looking they are they all fall for the same sh1t

Men have undeniably become weaker and overly emotional in the last 20 years or so social media hasn’t helped I see guys posting pictures with those faggot snap filters on which are designed for children how is any woman supposed to respect that?

Can you explain this software to me in as best plain English as you can? I would be extremely grateful.

 

[Reykhel]

And perhaps we're just kidding ourselves?

The average attractive woman knows she can get 90% of the guys she wants.

I could be wrong. I'm just asking.

Women by default of being female, are automatically in the game. In other words, by virtue of being a woman they'll
tend to get approached once they're out and about....

Men by default of being male, must consciously put themselves in the game. In other words, by virtue of being a man they'll
have to make the effort to approach once they're out and about...

Ergo, the average woman will be generally more socially calibrated than the average man.

Women, as a result of being the physically weaker sex, tend to have more opportunity and more need to develop themselves in a machiavellian sense. Thus when it comes to manipulations, seductions and strategy in social situations they often have the edge.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Women by default of being female, are automatically in the game. In other words, by virtue of being a woman they'll
tend to get approached once they're out and about....

Men by default of being male, must consciously put themselves in the game. In other words, by virtue of being a man they'll
have to make the effort to approach once they're out and about...

Ergo, the average woman will be generally more socially calibrated than the average man.

Women, as a result of being the physically weaker sex, tend to have more opportunity and more need to develop themselves in a machiavellian sense. Thus when it comes to manipulations, seductions and strategy in social situations they often have the edge.

After being approached tens of thousands of times, how do they filter? Do they just look to see who they can use the most for their own benefit?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

What do you think?

Does it depend on the female?

Reproduction? Long-term relationships? Guys they can use for money?

At the very least, low level beta orbiters who will give them massages any time they want?

 

[Urbanyst]

The real players are those with HIGH VALUE.

High value men and high value women rule the world. Everyone else takes whatever scraps they can get.

If you're not happy with your options, its time to raise your value. Either focus more on MONEY or find a way to elevate your position over other men in the market.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

The real players are those with HIGH VALUE.

High value men and high value women rule the world. Everyone else takes whatever scraps they can get.

If you're not happy with your options, its time to raise your value. Either focus more on MONEY or find a way to elevate your position over other men in the market.

Yea but even an average looking girl can have high value (in her head) almost everywhere she goes. This is completely independent of the fact that she may be an unintelligent coke head, but she still has SMV.

This is why I think buying a luxury car may work for me. If I had millions in the bank and drove a rusty old pickup, nobody would know I was rich. If I could afford a luxury car and it wouldn't put me in terrible debt, people would assume I was rich. It's not like anyone is going to actually see the size of my bank account. Plus, I could just lie and say I'm a millionaire if I drive an exotic car. If women are going to be so unscrupulous, then so am I. **** them and their nasty little stink holes.

 

[btownbuck2012]

No. I think there is just a profound lack of eligible men around. Many are too soft, skinny-fat, needy, overly-romantic, irresponsible with their investment, emotionally unstable and entitled; all the things they shouldn't be in evolutionary terms. To an extent, the world of women are just reacting to that

Completely disagree with this. You're giving women way too much credit and not holding them at all accountable for their nonsense.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Well I don't know what I can do to make women want me.

My only idea is to get rich, which I plan on doing.

The only way I get approached down town is by putting on a nice shirt and shoes. But what is really the value in wearing nice clothes in the grand scheme of things?

If this is a game, I have no one to play with.

Plus, I have a huge negative in my past in that I went to prison for stalking. I was high on acid and barely even remember it, but it was on national television.

Yes, you read that right. I'm my trolling.

Don't tell no one that

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Don't tell no one that

I know, but it's hard to hide once you know my last name. All you have to do is Google me.

I might change my last name, but I have to wait until 2022.

It's technically explainable and who knows, maybe I could get some "bad ass" points for going to prison.