After "The chase"

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I also suggest get good at storytelling. It's so easy now that all the stories of the world R on YouTube. Chicks love travel they think it makes them sophisticated well rounded. Start with a couple of travel stories.

 

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Why not go mid brow
https://www.amazon.com/Droll-Stories-Honore-Balzac/dp/1634505115
Easy to read, very funny and remind you that man woman Shenanigans have been going on forever.
Or how about the book of books. Louis L'Amour a trail of memories. Books written by his daughter full of great quotes from his westerns on life and the art of being a man. And lists the great books he read. It won't surprise anyone here the Marcus Aurelius was on the list. This guy was a professional boxer a tank commander and sailed around the world. If he thought reading was a good thing you should too.

That sounds like a good read, ill check it out, thank you.

Try Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code, also John Lyman's God's Lions series and Scott Mariani, - Ben Hope series for end of world fighting the Anti-Christ type of adventure stories. They are all fast paced.

Malachi Martin for some religious intrigue.

Like you say 50 Shades is rubbish really and not very accurate as far as getting insights into how women fantasise and enjoy romance.
For this it is worth reading a few books from the following authors:
Heather Killough-Walden writes Lost Angels series and also Big Bad Wolf series. Light and easy.
J.R Ward - Fallen Angels series - a bit more gritty maybe men would enjoy this author more.

There are loads more of course but these authors are easy starters.

I've heard good things about Dan Browns books, especially the Da Vinci Code. I'll check out Lost angles and the fallen angles series. Im after something that is a easy and shortish read to start with just to get into the swing of things.

I learned from one of my buddies to always have stuff to talk about. It doesn't have to be something so important either. You must put some effort to be a decent conversationalist. Take that intention with you throughout your day too. I use the news, I kinda force myself to learn about current events so I can have something to say to women. The things I am personally interested in are far too advanced for any female conversation.

The conversations are okay for the first month or so, however its after that initial period i've found trouble with. However i have noticed that conversations require a two way street in order to work i.e. if she isn't interested even if its the slightest then it isn't going to work in any way shape or form.
But i also noticed in old LTR's that i used to encounter the same issue. What the hell can you converse on or about, like there isn't anything to talk about.

I also suggest get good at storytelling. It's so easy now that all the stories of the world R on YouTube. Chicks love travel they think it makes them sophisticated well rounded. Start with a couple of travel stories.

Story telling is one of my weak areas that i am trying to work on. I haven't really travel much but i still try to throw in things about what I've done.

 

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Fake the travel stories - steal some short ones off the web change a couple of details. If u get busted say.. wow it happened to that guy too. Just keep it short. The skill is the telling. Content really doesn't matter.