I Keep Going Off/Getting Worse

[Von]

You should stop trying to preach and start LISTENING

A fool is someone who is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

You write in 3rd persons, to me it always expressed that you were 1) self-absorbed 2) Double personality 3) ego oriented

You angry about never having a father and being raised by a single mother who was probably not really loving and she probably threw alot of **** at you... you probably even went to jail etc...

Myself I often looked for inner happiness through the love/eyes of another especially when life took the most person away from me (dead by suicide) and since i've been to 1 funeral per year due to death in my friends/family/acquaintance,.. not bad for a guy with a sheltered youth

You can't expect other people to fix you, the only way to be happy is by fixing yourself.... blaming a market like many people do here... will not help you... blame is always easier than accepting responsability, if you blame the ''market'' how come so many have good lives in this ''so evil market''

I won't talk about myself and how since I started dating someone, all the chicks are after me, my business is good and how clear focus I am on living in the moment... all is doing great and better for me... Why? I always looked into myself... 2 years of hell... but one day I made a decision to change and now results emerge.Will it be always like that? Maybe not but I'll take the ride and put gas in it.

So take a simple ticket to somewhere and go on an adventure, never come back to this site, to your city, to you work, leave to never come back and discover yourself until you discovered... Buddish temples are in Nepal

About society... yes there is a ''ghetto'' culture among ''black''... about how success is a ''white'' thing... why you think succesful black man never use the N word and if you call them N-word they insult you ? Cause they don't want the ghetto culture

Start analyzing your behaviour and live

 

[sazc]

MLK also got assassinated

lol, well then, one way or the other, problem solved, eh?

 

[BetterCallSaul]

I don't know. I can tell you more about how I feel? This is going to be a pretty good analogy to use in this situation.

I've enjoyed reading various subjects in world history and one view I've sort of adopted is views held by various Roman generals during the height of their glory days. Some of these more intellectual generals knew that their nation was destroying others in order to become stronger. Their leaders sent these generals to destroy entire nations and their people and completely vanquish them. It's something I think we should do again today, but of course the worldwide liberal handwringing typically prevails.

Anyway, some of these generals began to realize that every society they vanquished, that culture was pretty much lost. It was either annihilated after their troops burned their whole nation to the ground, or stragglers left to wander and thus the culture would die in a generation or two. They began to realize that even if Roman culture was superior, that vanquished nation had some outlook on life that may have been different and maybe useful.

As I said I've sorta adopted that outlook, and among the native american indian population, I think some tribes had a good outlook on an individual's personality. Not all tribes did this, but those that did, when a young boy/man came of age, he'd set off on a journey into the wilderness. He'd go as far as he wanted, stay as long as he wanted. Hopefully he would not be killed, but the point was when he returned, he would tell his tribe about everything, but more importantly about himself. Usually the first question the oldest man in the tribe would ask was "Who are you?" And indeed that's probably something that a lot people in this world today completely lose sight of - they don't even know who they are. I'm not talking about your name, I'm not talking about all the expectations (or lack thereof) that people may have had of you, who are YOU?

 

[Urbanyst]

Cmon man, that's just excusing women's **** behavior. There's plenty of available single quality black men out there that black women do not want. Furthermore, a black man with his **** together has the hardest dating market out of any race of male.

Well, just like we as men decide what a quality women is.. women decide what a quality man is. If you can't get women it means you don't fit their idea of quality.

I don't see any evidence of successful black men having the hardest time in dating. That's actually one of the most absurd statements I've read in a while. Success and MONEY is never a turn off to women. Like never.

 

[marmel75]

Aren't you the same guy always crying about how you can't get a woman from numerous other threads? Now you've fvcked over 200 in the last 7 years? Cmon bro...it can't be both. Which one is it?

 

[Tenacity]

so you feel extremely moved and passionate about this problem (because anger is passion at it's core)

Why dont you become a big brother? Why dont you volunteer your time with kids? Why dont you go to a local boys and girls club, or equivalent, (maybe pick an inner city one) and talk to the director and explain your background and how it affected you and what you see in females today and ask if there is anything you can do to circumvent that in future generations.

I already do this. Someone asked me about this before in another thread, I'm active in various communities in various non profit capacities. But the mentoring I do isn't going to solve the problem I'm discussing.

... yes there is a ''ghetto'' culture among ''black''... about how success is a ''white'' thing... why you think succesful black man never use the N word and if you call them N-word they insult you ? Cause they don't want the ghetto culture

Start analyzing your behaviour and live

And indeed that's probably something that a lot people in this world today completely lose sight of - they don't even know who they are. I'm not talking about your name, I'm not talking about all the expectations (or lack thereof) that people may have had of you, who are YOU?

SAZC asked me what is the true purpose in my creation of this thread.......I said I didn't really know because there are various reasons I created this thread.

- I created it to rant
- I created it because I'm getting more and more pissed the fvck off about it
- I created it because I'm looking for "solutions"

Now, these "solutions" are where the true analysis/discussion comes in, because the TRUE "solutions" to this problem includes the following:

- Men to stop being ruled by pvssy and "going along, to get along" and begin to FIGHT BACK against the gynocentric bullshyt that's going on with these women today

- Men put women back into their proper place in terms of social dynamics

- Men no longer putting up with the bullshyt of a woman picking thugs/criminals and then coming to good men, those women ought to be forever SHAMED (yes, FOREVER shamed)

- Men to take our Family Courts back because remember, it's our TAX DOLLARS that help fund the bullshyt

Those are the REAL solutions, it's a wide-scale effort by men to fight back against the shyt. Now, seeing as though I am NOT going to get that shyt because most Men today are pvssy-whipped to where as long as they are getting a piece of ran through pvssy, they are "good".....then the only other potential "solution" is for me to:

* Either blow my head off

* Or, Elliot Rogers some bytches and then blow my head off

* Or, turn back Blue Pill

* Or, fully embrace the Red Pill, fully eliminate any aspect of Blue Pill/LTR desire, and just spin plates and use bytches for sex/companionship. All desires for anything serious, meaningful, deep, etc., with a bytch are to be eliminated, and bytches are to only be seen as sex toys.

I'm not blowing my head off, I'm not throwing my life away on some Elliot Rogers shyt, and I can't go back to Blue Pill. So my only solution is number 4, even though....I would APPRECIATE IT, if you guys would stop being so fvcking pvssy-whipped and join me in a potential MOVEMENT to help take our country back from these bytches.

 

[zekko]

* Either blow my head off

* Or, Elliot Rogers some bytches and then blow my head off

* Or, turn back Blue Pill

* Or, fully embrace the Red Pill, fully eliminate any aspect of Blue Pill/LTR desire, and just spin plates and use bytches for sex/companionship. All desires for anything serious, meaningful, deep, etc., with a bytch are to be eliminated, and bytches are to only be seen as sex toys.

Could go fully MGTOW, or completely asexual.

Might try dating some rural or semi-rural chicks.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

MLK also got assassinated

He also cheated on his wife.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Could go fully MGTOW, or completely asexual.

Might try dating some rural or semi-rural chicks.

Or stick to prostitutes.

Play Russian roulette with HIV the rest of your life.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

* Or, fully embrace the Red Pill, fully eliminate any aspect of Blue Pill/LTR desire, and just spin plates and use bytches for sex/companionship. All desires for anything serious, meaningful, deep, etc., with a bytch are to be eliminated, and bytches are to only be seen as sex toys.

I'm not blowing my head off, I'm not throwing my life away on some Elliot Rogers shyt, and I can't go back to Blue Pill. So my only solution is number 4, even though....I would APPRECIATE IT, if you guys would stop being so fvcking pvssy-whipped and join me in a potential MOVEMENT to help take our country back from these bytches.

You have a serious case of cognitive dissonance. This is not the first time guys here have replied to threads you've started with the same gripes and they tell you "hey, my experience hasn't been as bad as what yours have been. The entire world isn't like that". Your reply is along the lines of "No way man, all the women I've seen, they are all the same. It is a worldwide epidemic."

You utilize the same type of reasoning and "logic" (emotion) a woman uses. You are not interested in hearing of experiences other men on this site have shared with you time and again. Since you have not been able to find what you want in life, this must necessarily be an epidemic of global proportions. All men who are with a woman in some kind of LTR have obviously lowered their standards and/or compromised who they are in order to simply stay in a relationship with a low class woman. And even more than that, there are NO high class women according to your own posts. In one of my previous replies in this thread, you replied back to me asking how well I REALLY knew some of these women, such as from church despite however professional they may be.

You know what...you're right! These women I've known for on average 6-7 years have totally misled me. You, a guy on the internet, whose thread I've replied to and taken maybe 10 minutes out of my life....yes, you've got it figured out. Why did I not see that before? These women are totally being fake with me, they've obviously lied about their past, and they are using me for whatever is convenient for them living in the present. They'll just branch swing back and forth as needed. Their husbands are total betas and can't even perceive of red pill let alone being ready to try and embrace it.

Indeed we've got to use SS as a site to collectively organize and fight to retake our society on a nationwide scale.

 

[Tenacity]

This is not the first time guys here have replied to threads you've started with the same gripes and they tell you "hey, my experience hasn't been as bad as what yours have been. The entire world isn't like that". Your reply is along the lines of "No way man, all the women I've seen, they are all the same. It is a worldwide epidemic."

- I have a Blue Pill side of me that keeps telling me the quality bytch does exist and I need to do X, Y, and Z to get her. Don't get a vasectomy yet and just do X, Y, and Z to find her.

- Then I have a Red Pill side of me that says of course not that bytch doesn't exist because if she has, out of 200 plus fvcking women, why haven't you find ONE girl that could have remotely been her?? Thus, get a vasectomy, opt out of anything serious, and just see women as sex toys, don't see them as anything deeper than that.

All men who are with a woman in some kind of LTR have obviously lowered their standards and/or compromised who they are in order to simply stay in a relationship with a low class woman. And even more than that, there are NO high class women according to your own posts. In one of my previous replies in this thread, you replied back to me asking how well I REALLY knew some of these women, such as from church despite however professional they may be.

And I'll ask you one more time..........where are you seeing these high quality black women, with no kids, good attitudes, with no history of dating thugs/criminals, etc.? Where??? Furthermore, I have no clue about the real dynamics of someone's relationship. I know for a fact that people put up false images on Facebook/Social Media.

You know what...you're right! These women I've known for on average 6-7 years have totally misled me. You, a guy on the internet, whose thread I've replied to and taken maybe 10 minutes out of my life....yes, you've got it figured out. Why did I not see that before? These women are totally being fake with me, they've obviously lied about their past, and they are using me for whatever is convenient for them living in the present. They'll just branch swing back and forth as needed. Their husbands are total betas and can't even perceive of red pill let alone being ready to try and embrace it.

Dude let me tell you something. If your BLUE PILL fantasy is working for you/has worked for you, then why are you here? Why aren't you married to your blue pill unicorn?

You mean to tell me, instead of being married to your blue pill unicorn, you are on the "internet" replying to a dude named "Tenacity" that YOU FEEL is batshyt crazy, bitter, and out of his mind?

If my Blue Pill bytch/quality woman/unicorn fantasy chick came true, I wouldn't have as much free time to be on here replying to guys like that. Why? Because my Blue Pill unicorn and kids (on top of my career) would be svcking up all of my time. But guess what?? My Blue Pill bytch/family doesn't exist.

If your Blue Pill bytch/family exists, then all power to you and I'm happy for you. Good luck. Why are you still on this website discussing the market of women, if everything is going so well for you and you've found your Blue Pill fantasy?

 

[SuckItUp]

Tenacity, I understand that you are frustrated. The core of this issue relates to own experience.

All women gravitate to bad boys. I feel that with black women it becomes an issue that many feel trapped/oppressed and have subconsciously placed limitations on themselves and accept what is around them rather than saying I want more.

Part of it may be social conditioning that they should seek out black mates because seeking out men of other races is treacherous and insults the "black struggle".

Ultimately, it seems that you probably won't find what you are looking for where you live because the odds of a black woman meeting your criteria do appear not favorable in your current locale.

You would probably find better odds in areas where ghetto life is looked down upon and not celebrated and intelligence, achievement, and ambition are keys to the kingdom.

 

[JimProphetMGTOW]

I'm not blowing my head off, I'm not throwing my life away on some Elliot Rogers shyt, and I can't go back to Blue Pill. So my only solution is number 4, even though....I would APPRECIATE IT, if you guys would stop being so fvcking pvssy-whipped and join me in a potential MOVEMENT to help take our country back from these bytches.

I hear you, but that movement has to happen organically. There's nothing really that we can do as an individual. This movement has to happen on it's own as a reaction to the wordwide epidemic of fvckery that men have put women through over the past few decades. You're starting to see it with more men opting to go MGTOW rather than dealing with the unsuitable behavior of the modern day woman. Japan has had a headstart on this with their herbivore movement and after visiting the country, I can personally attest that the women there do feel the burn.

The only way you can expect women's behavior to change for the better is for men to collectively start giving less attention to them. Which is unrealistic because we know that will not happen.

The only thing to do really at this point is to focus inward on your own happiness. This fight that you're trying to fight is a battle that goes deeper than the personal experiences and pain that you and I have both went through. This is something that is decades in the making and only time will sort out this problem. In the meantime, take a break away from women and enjoy the many beauties that life has in store for you.

Godspeed brother.

-Prophet

 

[zekko]

I would APPRECIATE IT, if you guys would stop being so fvcking pvssy-whipped and join me in a potential MOVEMENT to help take our country back from these bytches.

Join you in what exactly? Rewarding low quality women by giving them sex and attention? How is that supposed to help?

 

[BetterCallSaul]

Japan has had a headstart on this with their herbivore movement and after visiting the country, I can personally attest that the women there do feel the burn.

Can you expand on this a little more? I am a little familiar with their situation over there with regard to men and women just not getting together as much, so what is happening to the women specifically? Are more of them going lesbian? Turning into buddhist nuns or something? More details please.

 

[JimProphetMGTOW]

Can you expand on this a little more? I am a little familiar with their situation over there with regard to men and women just not getting together as much, so what is happening to the women specifically? Are more of them going lesbian? Turning into buddhist nuns or something? More details please.

The women out there are very aggressive when it comes to men. It's not uncommon out there for the women to court the men. They have hostess clubs where women will pay a male host to sit down and have a conversation and a drink with them. To me it was the weirdest thing ever but that's typical normal behavior out there. The men will spend 60 hours a week at work and there are some that will sleep on the floor at the train station rather than come home to wife.

My eye opening experience was when I was walking in the Shibuya district and a woman who I believe was a massage therapist literally yanked me by the arm and tried to pull me into her parlor. She did this with sheer aggression and no fvcks given.

The normal Japanese women that I talked to were very feminine and kind. In my experience the women there were very flattered when I showed them attention. Even those who rejected me were very apologetic when doing it. Another thing I noticed is that the women are starting to put in labor hours like the men are. Almost every woman I met was working at least 2-3 jobs to support themselves. It was very interesting to say the least.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

Sounds like Tenacity needs to get a serious dose of yellow fever and things will work themselves out.

 

[Desdinova]

- Due to not being able to get over this, if I find out that a current woman I'm dating/fvcking has dated a thug/criminal/deadbeat in the Past or even if I think she might possibly date one in the future...it's only a matter of time before I cuss her out, snap on her, and just go the fvck off.

This is why I wrote High Score Theory. Women who have been with a thug/criminal/deadbeat have been alpha-widowed and are permanently damaged. You're getting the car that's been taken on a joyride through an off-road adventure. Sure it has a nice paint job, but it's all fvcked up underneath.

This is why I tell men who want a LTR to focus on women age 18-23. There's a higher chance that she hasn't been alpha-widowed.

Now, onto your second problem... You've stated many times that you like black women. The bad news is most (if not all) of the black women in your part of the world are fvcked up. If you came up to Canada and dated a black woman, you would quickly fall in love. A large percentage of them are immigrants that haven't been tainted by thug life, rap music, drugs, and whatever else is fvcking up black women in your part of the world. These women clean, cook, and look after their households. Their children do chores and look after their family as well. I've been to their homes, and it always amazes me how well kept it is and how great the kids are. You need a daughter from one of these families, and there's plenty of them here.

If you want a black woman who isn't all fvcked up from black culture in the US, you need to move. If you're not willing to move, then you'll have to branch out into other races and increase the probability of finding a good woman.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

This is why I wrote High Score Theory. Women who have been with a thug/criminal/deadbeat have been alpha-widowed and are permanently damaged. You're getting the car that's been taken on a joyride through an off-road adventure. Sure it has a nice paint job, but it's all fvcked up underneath.

This is why I tell men who want a LTR to focus on women age 18-23. There's a higher chance that she hasn't been alpha-widowed.

Now, onto your second problem... You've stated many times that you like black women. The bad news is most (if not all) of the black women in your part of the world are fvcked up. If you came up to Canada and dated a black woman, you would quickly fall in love. A large percentage of them are immigrants that haven't been tainted by thug life, rap music, drugs, and whatever else is fvcking up black women in your part of the world. These women clean, cook, and look after their households. Their children do chores and look after their family as well. I've been to their homes, and it always amazes me how well kept it is and how great the kids are. You need a daughter from one of these families, and there's plenty of them here.

If you want a black woman who isn't all fvcked up from black culture in the US, you need to move. If you're not willing to move, then you'll have to branch out into other races and increase the probability of finding a good woman.

I'm confused. What makes those guys alphas? Aren't they just losers?

 

[Von]

Can you expand on this a little more? I am a little familiar with their situation over there with regard to men and women just not getting together as much, so what is happening to the women specifically? Are more of them going lesbian? Turning into buddhist nuns or something? More details please.

Herbivore movement in Japan... is Man related

It's was subject of many thesis...

Easy... what is the herbivore movement? Man buying Man purse (purse designed for man, I bought one on my trip... best bag I ever bought), using makeup to look more feminine, living at home with their parents, having no sex until mariage (if they get married... but in Japan, you are expected to get married to your first love) etc..., looking more ''androgyne'' has possible ertc... That's why you see alot of Japanese women who are married in ''westerner clubs or international clubs'' they looking for a white male to save them... and I have lived it

I lived in Japan, so I saw that stuff too... 75% of female in Japan said they sexually unsatisfied... Women are expected in Japan to stop working and become housewife after the first baby... so the male has to work 13 hours a day, commute 3 hours, every day to make a living for 3. Also you expected to house the ''elders'' of the family under your roof
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My friend used to go to Japan under the certificate of ''English teacher'' to sleep with married japanese women under their house roof while the husband was away in the city.... nice stuff for a italian/french

So Japanese women are cheating on their boyfriend, husband due to society high expections of them and their husband but also that guys especially in younger generation are acting and turning themselves into herbivore aka guys wanting to be girls

It's a huge problem over there... so any white guy who show up... girls of any age will jump on them why? We look more manly to them and we put less pressure on their ''woman duties''

If your black in Japan, they put you in the mafia category... nigerian mafia is huge there

PS: I am putting Tenacity on my ignore list... he adds no value