The Four Types of Men

[bigneil]

However, I think it's a "go purple or quit" set up. To be cynical and bitter, if you're in the black section, kill yourself.
The likeliness of me actually getting there will depend on how bad I want it.

You can work harder or work out more to get closer to purple. I've been in all four zones and purple is best.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Well I've been told I'm attractive by attractive girls. I usually get rated a 7. (Although the fact that I'm not black works against me in my city).

I make a decent amount of about $87,000/year and this will hopefully be going up when I start flipping houses in January. I'm hoping to make $200,000/year minimum.

I already have a 4 bedroom house paid off. I'm about to buy a 2007 BMW Z4 convertible. I currently drive an old pickup.

I honestly do think that money helps, but there's also more to it than that.

I think a lot of my problem is in lacking desire. I see females as the enemy. I'm heavy into the MGTOW stuff. I see women as inferior because I truly think they are. Not to mention that the particular women that you find down town are often the most awful ones on the planet. I could give specific examples, but I'd rather not.

Plus, I don't talk very much. I'm basically silent most of the time.

 

[BeTheChange]

In our every deliberation we should ask ourselves: what do men with multiple salsa instructors think? But oh yeah: the only exception to every rule is there is an exception to every rule.

BeTheChange demonstrates the perfect example of Liberal American Moron: Someone who thinks one counterexample bucks a trend. It does not.

I know a black woman who is NOT on welfare! SEE?? I know a black man with a JOB who stays with his kids. SEE???

It comes down to understanding the difference between MOST and ALL. BeTheChange starts breaking down at that point.

BeTheChange, seeing that you want to take personal shots at me (because you got no pus-sy in Dubai) enlighten us: what do you have that I don't have? I have a better job, hotter women and I can take you in a fight. Oh and more likes on SS. And God knows you didn't post any pictures of hot women for me to rate.

LOL. Internet warrior tells me he can beat me in a fight. Ok then.

I went to Dubai with my paramour you moron, all mentioned in previous posts. I doubt you have a "better" job than me. All the 46 year olds in my line of work are making almost a mil in dollar terms. Are YOU? Nope, didn't think so.

I read your posts to remind myself how not to think. Thou protest too much. If you were so sure you were "winning" in life you wouldn't feel the need to make dozens of posts a day telling us you were winning. Your insecurities are obvious.

 

[Tenacity]

Funny, I was looking for some songs on YouTube, and there was this really weird one that I don't necessarily like (but I don't hate either), but the words the guy was saying was to never be proud of your wealth because you'll never become satisfied with how much you collect.

- Broke, defeated/victim mentality, and/or just flat out lazy people are the ONLY people who will tell you that money doesn't matter, or money doesn't buy happiness, or building wealth doesn't matter, etc. Period.

- Fat, unattractive, and/or just flat out lazy/unmotivated to exercise and eat right people are the ONLY people who tell you looks don't matter, working out doesn't matter, etc. Period.

They refer to having money and good looks as "shallow" because they have neither. The problem is that this now represents AMERICA. Understand that 76% of Americans are broke living paycheck-to-paycheck without the ability to cover a $400 emergency, and over 70% of Americans are defined as overweight with nearly 50% of which being obese.

So you are going to have the MAJORITY of people (not just on this forum, but in society in general) running around saying money doesn't matter, working out doesn't matter, looking good doesn't matter, etc., because they are FAT, BROKE, and DEFEATED.

So what they do is create things to replace money and looks, like "game" or "swag" or "street cred" or "rap skills". Because they are defeated and don't believe they can acquire money, as well as too lazy/undisciplined to workout/eat right....so they seek to replace money and looks with CARTOON shyt. The problem, like I said, is that majority of Americans are doing this shyt so it's now becoming the norm.

 

[Tenacity]

What happened to this fvcking forum?

Gone are the days when you had Pook posting stuff like this:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/finance-traits-of-successful-people-ive-met.59095/

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/securities-vs-mistakes.60545/

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/aphorisms.77960/

The focus was on being the total man, getting your looks, finances, and personality together so you were attractive in GENERAL (not just to women, but to employers, business partners, customers, etc.). It was the focus on being the DON JUAN, which is what this total man was.

Now, it's nothing but a bunch of broke, lazy, pseudo PUA/MGTOW motherfvckers, who run around here being comfortable making $15,000 per year, comfortable living on a woman's couch, comfortable having 45% bodyfat, etc.

What the FVCK happened to this website????

 

[bigneil]

That seems more like a pie chart rather than a Venn diagram.

This is more along the lines of a Venn diagram breakdown:

The blue circle would be composed of men who can attract hot women primarily through physical attraction.
The red would be composed of men who can attract hot women primarily through wealth.
The purple area would be men who attract hot women through both wealth and attraction.
The black would be in a circle of its own if we claim such men do not attract women.

The problem with the above diagram is that it is far too simple, even if we consider it to be a broad generalization and allow for exceptions. For example, it is not unusual for a guy in his late teens or early 20's to attract hot women even when he is broke, while the same generally cannot be said of broke men in their 30's, 40's and beyond. Can it happen for these older, broke guys? Sure. But it's certainly an exception rather than the norm.

If you wanted to factor age into all of this through Venn diagrams, sh*t can start to get pretty complicated and you end up with more groups of men all with different success levels:

Naturally, the ideal place to be is wealthy and attractive at any age (green categories).

Average looking men over 30 who are wealthy (maroon) will often fair better than attractive men over 30 who are broke (dark brown), but both will manage to attract women.

Men under 30 who are attractive but broke will likely fair just as well as men over 30 who are wealthy but not terribly attractive.

If you want to start drawing Venn diagrams that include confidence, maturity, game....whatever.... it gets far too complicated to be even worth a breakdown.

Excellent post - I stand corrected. My diagram was sort of a Venn diagram using half circles!

 

[bigneil]

All the 46 year olds in my line of work are making almost a mil in dollar terms. Are YOU?

So the answer is NO, you have nothing I don't have.

Note I was a self made millionaire by age 29. I invested it in my software company which created revolutionary new technology that can compress 3D models by several orders of magnitude. Nearly 18 years later, the business brought in $250,000 (mostly tax free as I can deduct expenses) in the last 7 months.

Next, BeTheSexChange moves on to complete and utter bullsh!t by claiming I'm BELOW AVERAGE!

"A 46 year old worker making $700,000.00 annually was in income centile 99% in 2016. This centile started at $350,001.00 annually."
A 46 year old worker making $70,000.00 annually was in income centile 69% in 2016. This centile ranged from $67,013.00 to $70,001.00 a year.
A 46 year old worker making $45,000.00 annually was in income centile 50% in 2016. This centile ranged from $45,000.00 to $45,100.00 a year.

source: https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-by-age-calculator/

BeTheChange uses the all-too-common COMPARE YOU TO PERFECTION strategy of denial and dismissal. Sure, everyone is dating a girl rated 100 and everyone is a millionaire at my age!

 

[Tenacity]

So the answer is NO, you have nothing I don't have.

Note I was a self made millionaire by age 29. I invested it in my software company that brought in $250,000 (mostly tax free as I can deduct expenses) in the last 7 months.

Next, BeTheSexChange moves on to complete and utter bullsh!t by claiming I'm BELOW AVERAGE!

"A 46 year old worker making $700,000.00 annually was in income centile 99% in 2016. This centile started at $350,001.00 annually."
A 46 year old worker making $70,000.00 annually was in income centile 69% in 2016. This centile ranged from $67,013.00 to $70,001.00 a year.
A 46 year old worker making $45,000.00 annually was in income centile 50% in 2016. This centile ranged from $45,000.00 to $45,100.00 a year.

source: https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-by-age-calculator/

BeTheChange uses the all-too-common COMPARE YOU TO PERFECTION strategy of denial and dismissal. Sure, everyone is dating a girl rated 100 and everyone is a millionaire at my age!

Lmaoo, dude take my advice and put BeThePocketChange along with his convicted stock fraud Mentor Guru/Legend/(whatever other fake name he has) on ignore.

I already exposed BeThePocketChange as a complete liar and fraud. This guy runs around here on the forum in 2015 saying he's making 6 figures, working in I-Banking, and on top of the world. Then this year in his journal, he says that in 2015 he was BROKE, living on Overdraft, with $20,000 in debt. Which means the entire time in 2015 he was completly fvcking LYING about his lifestyle. I shyt you not.

- Then he talks about how in his journal, he literally goes from a low net worth to a $125,000 net worth literally OVERNIGHT. I shyt you not.

- Then he runs around here calling everyone pikers because they aren't on "his path" to become a billionaire within the next 5 years. I shyt you not.

And of course, his mentor, the convicted stock fraud Guru/Legend/whatever other name he goes by, ^5's all of this shyt, endorses all of this shyt, and likes all of this shyt....why? Well, because BeThePocketChange kisses Guru's a.ss and never disagrees with him.

They are frauds, they are liars, and they are phoneys. Let me tell you what you will NEVER get out of BeThePocketChange.........it's ONE pic of him with any of the unicorn women he says he has. Not one pic. I guarantee it.

They are what's wrong with this fvcking forum and they are why guys don't take this forum seriously anymore. The moderators want to ban Da Dynamically, whereas these two fvcking FRAUDS are still allowed to be on this website. It's completely unbelievable.

 

[bigneil]

It's like listening to virgin children, explaining how life is through idealization.
"Imagine how it would be, to be at the top making cash money"...

Want to bet? Name your challenge. The fact you are in denial to this level of accusing me of lying shows how far ahead of you I am. It's literally unbelievable how well I'm doing. Readers can decide whether they prefer to follow my lead or yours.

 

[bigneil]

IMO, the issue is that more and more people these days tend to focus more and more on exceptions to the rule. There is always someone somewhere who knows some guy who is broke but gets the girls, ugly but gets the girls, or dresses like sh*t but gets the girls....and argues that being the whole package DJ deal once strived for isn't necessary. And it's not....if your only goal is to get laid by anything with a pulse.

Unfortunately, few if anyone ever elaborates more on that. Yeah, that slob guy might get girls, but I'll be willing to bet the farm he's very rich & abundant in one or several other aspects. That's the part nobody thinks/talks about. All some guys will see is, "Hey, guess I can be a slob/broke/ugly/whatever and still get girls too".

This is precisely how the SJW's operate. They think finding one counterexample proves that no trends exist! I know an ugly broke guy who scored, so that means being ugly and broke is better than being handsome and wealthy!! They actually say this stuff right here in writing! And people of welfare like it!

 

[Tenacity]

IMO, the issue is that more and more people these days tend to focus more and more on exceptions to the rule. There is always someone somewhere who knows some guy who is broke but gets the girls, ugly but gets the girls, or dresses like sh*t but gets the girls....and argues that being the whole package DJ deal once strived for isn't necessary. And it's not....if your only goal is to get laid by anything with a pulse.

Unfortunately, few if anyone ever elaborates more on that. Yeah, that slob guy might get girls, but I'll be willing to bet the farm he's very rich & abundant in one or several other aspects. That's the part nobody thinks/talks about. All some guys will see is, "Hey, guess I can be a slob/broke/ugly/whatever and still get girls too".

100% correct, because most people don't want to admit that their "system" is broken because they honestly don't have the answers to fix it. It's why in the Sales Profession, you will have 300 independent sales agents on 100% commission, with 250 of them barely keeping the lights on, 40 of them just "getting by", and 10 of them who are making a good living at the position. The Sales Managers are ONLY going to highlight the 10 of them who are making it and say, "Look, they did it, why can't you do it? It's possible if you just work hard and think positive!"

- The reality is that people are broke and defeated, and have given up on ways to make a good living. Robots have taken away a number of jobs, everybody has a damn degree these days which makes the competition for decent jobs that are left very fierce....etc.

- Another reality is that with the stress of dealing with everyday life, it's very HARD for people to stay on a workout and eating schedule that's healthy. The stress of everything makes you want to drink, overeat, over spend, etc.

They are broke, fat, lazy, in DEBT, stressed out, and defeated. Instead of admitting that so guys like me can offer some solutions, they instead what to CHANGE the game by trying to make money, good looks, and 6 packs no longer "important", because they honestly believe those things are now out of reach.

 

[bigneil]

Secrets to my success

• I get up at 4am (I technically have no sleep schedule. I can stay up and party until 3am but still get up at 4am, taking naps if necessary).
• I am constantly indulging in coffee (4am-noon only), wine (11am-11pm only) and herbal medicines (like good Ginseng).
• I go to the gym at 6am MWF (I pay a physical trainer $180 per week - quick! Someone say it doesn't count because I pay for it!).
• I eat mostly organic food.
• I try to constantly work, but feel like I'm constantly enjoying myself.
• I avoid all scented products and all pharmaceuticals.
• No vaccines or needles - ever.

Results

• I have boundless energy always, until crashing into a deep sleep.
• I am 46 but look about 37 I'm told.
• I was able to keep 2 jobs (that paid $3350 per week average - each) for 27 consecutive weeks. I even kept a third job for 6 weeks.
• My girlfriend (defined as a romantic, sexual partner) is 25 years my junior.
• I currently have the best relationship of my life. We adore eachother.

My message: work hard, eat healthy and stay off Government assistance.

 

[Tenacity]

Those of us who were doing great to begin with.....

Who are these people who were doing "great" to begin with? I mean you can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.

I've already posted in full detail the reports and stats on the majority of people age 18 - 40, and the majority of Americans in general. They are broke, overweight, in debt, and stressed the hell out. Over 70% of them.

 

[Trump]

I'm curious, for those guys who says it's all about money, money, money, money, money. Get money, get money, get money.

If someone dropped $100K in your account on a Wednesday and gave you a Rolex watch, would be able to pick up the hottest girl at the bar on Friday? How would your game differ? You are magically going to know what to say? You are magically going to be educated? You are magically going to have a lot of friends? You are magically going to have value to society?

"Hey girl, look at my watch, look at my bank account you can now start to be attracted to me."

Hollywood baby!

 

[QuadDeuces]

I've seen some broke ass, ugly ass motherfvckers, plow through hottie after hottie.
I've seen rich socially awkward but handsome gymrats doing awful with women.

 

[bigneil]

I've seen some broke ass, ugly ass motherfvckers, plow through hottie after hottie.
I've seen rich socially awkward but handsome gymrats doing awful with women.
F

I graded your exam. Are you mentally retarded? Did you only read the headline?

 

[bigneil]

If someone dropped $100K in your account on a Wednesday and gave you a Rolex watch, would be able to pick up the hottest girl at the bar on Friday?

Absolutely. Did you actually ask this question? Have you ever heard of groupies? Rock stars? Penthouse apartments? Beach houses in the Hampton's? You're like Bernie's corpse in Weekend at Bernies! I'll party, thank you very much.

The hottest girl in any strip bar can be "picked up" (not necessarily bedded but dated and romanced) for $500-$1000 ($1000-$2000 if you are ugly). You could get the 50-100 of the hottest strippers for $100,000. That's one per week for a year. Why do you think I keep saying if you earn $500,000+ per year you have unlimited women? Non-strippers will go out with you for free btw when they see you out with those 50 women.

So yes.

PS - I earned $100,000 in the past 3 months. Yawn.

 

[bigneil]

Which category did Roger Moore fall under? Is he a beta provider? Did he pay her because he flew her back from Egypt? Do you know ugly guys without guns who score way hotter women every minute? Is she secretly pining for the barback who sleeps on Kenny's couch? Think women like men who dress like that? Would deesade score circles around him? Should my girlfriend and I make this our next photoshoot?

 

[Tenacity]

I come from a fairly well off family........

Okay so you have the luxury and had the luxury to mooch off others.

What about guys like me who didn't have that? So again, you are arguing exceptions here. You come from a WELL-OFF family which allowed you to not have to work as hard, stress as hard, etc., because you had family members who would give you shyt.

Now you run around talking about money doesn't matter......of course it doesn't matter to you.....you've always been given it (by family) for little effort.

 

[QuadDeuces]

Neil, if you were really such a baller, you wouldn't feel the need to dump over 6k posts on a self help site like this. You'd be too busy plowing through your harem of 10hb strippers and flying your private jet across the globe than trying to convince random strangers online how fvcking awesome you are.