People who tell you "I'll call you" or "I'll get in touch with you"

[lizardking82]

Like, there are quite a few cases when I am in a personal dilemma. Not only about women. In general, with this thing. Do you call them to remind them? Or if they don't remind themselves they just don't care? Or you call anyways, leaving pride aside?

 

[AlphaNate]

I'll ignore until death if she doesn't call or text. Not because I'm waiting, just because I don't care.

 

[lizardking82]

I'll ignore until death if she doesn't call or text. Not because I'm waiting, just because I don't care.

What if it's a business thing with women/men? You apply the same tactics? Where is the fine line between seeming eager and seeming desperate?

 

[bigneil]

What if it's a business thing with women/men? You apply the same tactics? Where is the fine line between seeming eager and seeming desperate?

One extra text is the difference. Sometimes you have nothing to lose, but it's a huge red flag if they don't follow up.

I've yet to find ONE example of a girl who doesn't send a thank-you text after our date turning out to be interested. No matter how great the date seemed to go, if she doesn't text you after, she has decided not to see you again. So in this case, don't text her again - ever.

My current girl has yet to not text after a date. I consider our relationship complete after each date and when she reaches out, I make another date.

Whenever you have something exciting to tell your girl, simply wait until she texts and then share it. This has the process of making us much more exciting to them. They miss us more, and then we are more interesting when they reach out.

 

[wifehunter]

"We'll do lunch!"

 

[btownbuck2012]

Like, there are quite a few cases when I am in a personal dilemma. Not only about women. In general, with this thing. Do you call them to remind them? Or if they don't remind themselves they just don't care? Or you call anyways, leaving pride aside?

Brother, let me tell you. If you think women flaking and not keeping their word is bad, wait until you're intrenched in the corporate world. Grown adults act like this all the time. I'm in sales. I've had people go through the entire sales process with me and tell me the budget is there and they are going to sign a contract in a few weeks only to completely ghost me when it comes time to do the deed. You'd be shocked at how many GROWN men and women cannot handle any type of conflict whatsoever and would rather completely ignore the situation all together. People of every age, every gender, every job title and of every income bracket act this way.

Bottom line, lower your expectations on people.

 

[AlphaNate]

What if it's a business thing with women/men? You apply the same tactics? Where is the fine line between seeming eager and seeming desperate?

Absolutely not. Business is separate. Women are emotional children and it's fun to f*ck with them. I wouldn't apply those rules when money is involved.

 

[lizardking82]

Absolutely not. Business is separate. Women are emotional children and it's fun to f*ck with them. I wouldn't apply those rules when money is involved.

Care to give your point of view, business wise?

 

[AlphaNate]

Care to give your point of view, business wise?

Really depends on the context.

Generally, the higher the urgency the more likely I am to reach out.

 

[MrOctober]

I think the two are completely different.

With woman you should create a connection and leave it all to them.

Business you go after it. Especially in a sales environment of any sort.

For business sake if you create a possible opportunity and the person says they'll reach you and doesn't I say follow up at least once. Chance they're busy but so are you right? Go after it.

Polar opposites.

 

[dude99]

Like, there are quite a few cases when I am in a personal dilemma. Not only about women. In general, with this thing. Do you call them to remind them? Or if they don't remind themselves they just don't care? Or you call anyways, leaving pride aside?

If you are important enough to anyone, they will reach out. If not they won't.

People will always work on a relationship that matters to them. If it's family, friendship or dating, people will try with those they hold important to them

 

[ThisNThat]

The people I've met, people in general, tend to be like this...they cannot commit to anything either. They RSVP for events, but still aren't sure if they are actually going to show up because they are holding out for something better. Fair weather friends (old school term).

It's funny how they don't return your calls, but when you run into them in person they are like "OH..I'm so sorry, I mean to call you...blah blah blah.."

 

[BeExcellent]

In dating it's about interest level. A high interest level woman will be responsive to you pretty much in any case...a low interest level woman won't.

In business it's about the self interest of the other party in combination with your value and/or social capital. If you are able to provide a product, service, or influence that is beneficial or valuable to someone else...you'll have value & people will seek you out.

If people do not seek you out then you need to look honestly at what you offer in the market...both the dating market and the business market. The market will not lie.

The brutal truth is that those who offer high value do not have the issues mentioned in the OP.

The truth is life is about results, there are no special snowflakes and you must add value because nobody cares about anything but their own self interest. So those who offer real value to others are valuable. There does exist in relationship the possibility to meet people who honestly like you for you, these are people who become friends and perhaps a relationship partner. These people are the exception, not the rule (and they should be appreciated and held in high regard). That is why individuals generally have few "true" friends. But ALL people are most interested in their own self interest.

Only the self absorbed think others should place intrinsic importance on themselves in the absence of providing real value to others.

 

[3agle 3yes]

"Assumption is the root of all fvck ups"

Just give them a call...what can you lose if they weren't interested anyway?

 

[nismo-4]

Business, you pursue. Women, you don't.

When was the last time any of you had a woman want to help you get better in your career or introduce you to people who might be able to get you a job offer? Not very many, I'm sure.

I keep things business with women I meet these days. If I'm not benefitting money wise or otherwise, I move on. I work in a restaurant and I don't find any of the women there attractive or special.

The OP's quote to me is just code for not interested. If they do call, buy a lottery ticket.

 

[lizardking82]

Business, you pursue. Women, you don't.

When was the last time any of you had a woman want to help you get better in your career or introduce you to people who might be able to get you a job offer? Not very many, I'm sure.

I keep things business with women I meet these days. If I'm not benefitting money wise or otherwise, I move on. I work in a restaurant and I don't find any of the women there attractive or special.

The OP's quote to me is just code for not interested. If they do call, buy a lottery ticket.

I should have explained myself better. I was mostly interested in the business part since the women part is already clear to me.

 

[nismo-4]

I should have explained myself better. I was mostly interested in the business part since the women part is already clear to me.

You gotta improve your market value. Oh, you can always inprove.

Broaden within your target audience. Don't just focus on 1 in the audience. Build a bigger fanbase.

Simple ass business acumen. I can't believe some people go pursue a MBA just to hear this type of sh*t.

Unless you're high up corporate or a business owner yourself, M.B.A. My A.S.S.! LOL!