There's simply not enough "educated" men for single women

[ThisNThat]

I saw this article on "Vice"

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/youre-single-because-there-arent-enough-men-253

VERY long read, but it basically addresses how there are not enough educated men for women to date and expanding their options to date a working class guy is not a viable option for them or...if it gets bad enough, they may have to settle on the working class FedEx worker.

"Being unwilling to consider working-class guys affects women in ways that it doesn't affect men. It's totally unfair, and I get that."

Not sure if I get that statement, but if I interpret it, does it mean when it "doesn't affect men" it means men won't have a problem dating a Chili's waitress or a cute cashier, but if a guy works the stock room at a big box store....it's a completely different story? The cute cashier won't date the stock boy?

 

[Mike32ct]

I would interpret it the same way. I think you are correct.

As a side note, for some strange reason, college educated workers aren't considered "working class." College-degreed people don't "work?" I never understood that.

 

[dude99]

I saw this article on "Vice"

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/youre-single-because-there-arent-enough-men-253

VERY long read, but it basically addresses how there are not enough educated men for women to date and expanding their options to date a working class guy is not a viable option for them or...if it gets bad enough, they may have to settle on the working class FedEx worker.

"Being unwilling to consider working-class guys affects women in ways that it doesn't affect men. It's totally unfair, and I get that."

Not sure if I get that statement, but if I interpret it, does it mean when it "doesn't affect men" it means men won't have a problem dating a Chili's waitress or a cute cashier, but if a guy works the stock room at a big box store....it's a completely different story? The cute cashier won't date the stock boy?

You are correct. Women won't date beneith them.

They want equal rights. Equal pay. They have sense of entitlement, and high expectations. Nothing to offer in return. They have a vagina afterall.

And they still expect a white Knight to foot their bills.

 

[resilient]

My ex-spouse and I are were equal in pay for the first half of our marriage. She was/is a smart cookie. In the second act of our marriage, her salary doubled and I noticed I got significantly more disrespect/neglect with her increasing career success while my career flat-lined. She felt more entitled with that success and ultimately checked out.

 

[bigneil]

"Being unwilling to consider working-class guys affects women in ways that it doesn't affect men. It's totally unfair, and I get that."

Not sure if I get that statement...

It means "the vast majority of Millennial men can't support themselves, and many have an attitude of entitlement, so women have no chance to raise families with these men, so these women must either become a lesbian, a stripper and/or date older men who earn money. To the women who like men their own age, that's unfair, and mommy always told them the world is fair, so whaa".

 

[dude99]

They do date "beneath them". Or else I'd be fvcked.

Simple lover/provider paradox.

This is why I encourage a little bit of daygame into a guy's routine. You have to rely on a thin-slice. No value other than the immediate.

Then you learn what attraction is, and isn't, the really hard way.

That sh*t (education, job, money) is useful in so much as keeping them around. That's when they try to "fix you".

Which is the most stupid thing ever. Because I can just get another (with some effort), and relive the glory days over with completely new experiences and sensations.

Try to fix you. Isn't that true.

I've had many girls try to "fix/mould/train" me when i was younger. They all failed. But succeeded in amusing me.

 

[Urbanyst]

Yep.

Major cities are crawling with single educated women. If you have a good job and some game its like shooting fish in a barrel.

The downside is a lot of these women are type A and have masculine personality traits. They are not wife material because the longer you date them the more controlling they get.

I've mentioned before how none of my LTR's have lasted longer than a year. While its easy to get laid, its very hard to find compatibility which is essential for a LTR to last.

 

[Trump]

We talked to author Jon Birger about the shortage of educated men, where women should go if they really want to land a husband, and why boys aren't going to college in the first place.

If I was talking to Jon Birger, I would ask about

1. The shortage of virgins
2. Would women looking for husbands sign prenups
3. Why women are going to college and giving up family and house keeping roles.

The article is imposing, looking to make women feel good and men feel bad.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

People in general are not smart. Going to college doesn't make you smart.....sorry to burst a crap load of bubbles. Our modern educational system is good for memorization mostly.

 

[bigneil]

People in general are not smart. Going to college doesn't make you smart.....sorry to burst a crap load of bubbles. Our modern educational system is good for memorization mostly.

College makes you smart and welfare makes you successful the way playing basketball makes you tall.

 

[bigneil]

My ex-spouse and I are were equal in pay for the first half of our marriage. She was/is a smart cookie. In the second act of our marriage, her salary doubled and I noticed I got significantly more disrespect/neglect with her increasing career success while my career flat-lined. She felt more entitled with that success and ultimately checked out.

This is sad but true. Thank you for sharing this rare (on SS) case study. This is why having a good job and paying the bills for a woman you live with and paying for dates is a worthwhile proposition. Mainly because the opposite is unnatural and hellish. When a woman is working and bringing home the money, that means she has to become more masculine to compete against men at work. She is taking on a male role in multiple ways. Furthermore, most men truly don't want a woman to support them (unless they need funding for an existing business that is about to take off, which is rare). Men who do are taking on a feminine role. Also remember: 51% of women who cheat do so with someone they met at work. A man's job is to free his woman of toil and give her the resources needed to live a comfortable life, likely with children.

 

[Alvafe]

This is sad but true. Thank you for sharing this rare (on SS) case study. This is why having a good job and paying the bills for a woman you live with and paying for dates is a worthwhile proposition. Mainly because the opposite is unnatural and hellish. When a woman is working and bringing home the money, that means she has to become more masculine to compete against men at work. She is taking on a male role in multiple ways. Furthermore, most men truly don't want a woman to support them (unless they need funding for an existing business that is about to take off, which is rare). Men who do are taking on a feminine role. Also remember: 51% of women who cheat do so with someone they met at work. A man's job is to free his woman of toil and give her the resources needed to live a comfortable life, likely with children.

too bad this don't fly anymore, since she want equality she can pay her half of it

Btw I really didn't read the article (what is the point anyway), most of time is like what trump said, its something who someone write to keep his imperative of girl you are doing nothing wrong the problem is the men, they just forgot one tiny little detail, when you are told you are the problem too much you get pissed, and even teh clueless will eventually get pissed and say, since i'm the problem I will help you, I will retreat and you can live without men around.

also serious time here I finf too many stupid people on "educated" line with make me really puke, serious I go to college to the minimum having a proof i'm good on what I want to do, but in the end you get to work on something there is nothing to do with what you get your college degree on, the diference on the good smart one to a stupid one is, the smart one don't matter what he will amke do and will improve and learn , the stupid will cry complain and say the world is not fair to him and can't do anything else if is not waht his college degree says he should do.

 

[ThisNThat]

My ex-spouse and I are were equal in pay for the first half of our marriage. She was/is a smart cookie. In the second act of our marriage, her salary doubled and I noticed I got significantly more disrespect/neglect with her increasing career success while my career flat-lined. She felt more entitled with that success and ultimately checked out.

Yeah, I often wondered what happened to husbands when they would get laid off. Do they become some kind of pariah to the wife simply because there's a set back?

You'd THINK that with lay offs being so frequent, that women would see that, ya know?

 

[HoneyHitter]

Educated, intelligent men are not stupid enough to settle for women who weren't smart enough to settle in their sexual prime.

 

[resilient]

Yeah, I often wondered what happened to husbands when they would get laid off. Do they become some kind of pariah to the wife simply because there's a set back?

You'd THINK that with lay offs being so frequent, that women would see that, ya know?

I was never laid off TNT, yet I didn't have that ladder potential that she had. I had a few years to do something about it, yet I got comfortable and went with status quo. It comes back to interest level. If I had proactively explored financial options for side income and applied myself there in those avenues, networked, acquired more clientele, etc. her interest level might have held steady or get pumped up if I experienced more success.

I think it's been said in other threads, often the woman judges you based on how you judge yourself and how others respect you. If you don't respect yourself, others won't respect you, she'll wonder why and subconsciously begin to disrespect you as well. The man is supposed to set the frame of how he wants to be treated - because he's supposed to respect himself first.

People do get laid off or have financial setbacks. There can be a bout of depression or woe is me, but that has to be nipped in the bud fast. What makes the mark of the man is how he chooses to dust himself off and do something about it. If he plays into the victim role, becomes lazy and complacent, even the high interest level significant other will feel turned off...

 

[PeasantPlayer]

College makes you smart and welfare makes you successful the way playing basketball makes you tall

Typical sheltered comment

 

[AttackFormation]

I was never laid off TNT, yet I didn't have that ladder potential that she had. I had a few years to do something about it, yet I got comfortable and went with status quo. It comes back to interest level. If I had proactively explored financial options for side income and applied myself there in those avenues, networked, acquired more clientele, etc. her interest level might have held steady or get pumped up if I experienced more success.

I think it's been said in other threads, often the woman judges you based on how you judge yourself and how others respect you. If you don't respect yourself, others won't respect you, she'll wonder why and subconsciously begin to disrespect you as well. The man is supposed to set the frame of how he wants to be treated - because he's supposed to respect himself first.

People do get laid off or have financial setbacks. There can be a bout of depression or woe is me, but that has to be nipped in the bud fast. What makes the mark of the man is how he chooses to dust himself off and do something about it. If he plays into the victim role, becomes lazy and complacent, even the high interest level significant other will feel turned off...

Was there any aspect of your mental life that benefited and became easier/better from your marriage?

 

[resilient]

@AttackFormation, what do you mean? Are you asking how my mental life was during the marriage or after the separation and divorce?

 

[AttackFormation]

@AttackFormation, what do you mean? Are you asking how my mental life was during the marriage or after the separation and divorce?

Basically, did your wife make your life easier in any way.

I think it's Desdinova who tends to say (could be someone else though I dunno) something like the woman is supposed to make his life easier, not harder. That's what I mean.

 

[resilient]

I stressed about money less when I was married. She did the taxes. I had a fulfilling social life with our couples friends. I traveled around the world more. I ate out a lot and she cooked awesome food all the time. I miss her cooking more than anything.

Desdinova and other helpful DJs got me through the separation and divorce when I returned to SoSuave after many years of absence.