Nofap experiment: its PORN thats the issue, not masterbating

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Some of you guys may know that i did nofap 90 days last year and it was ine of the best things ive done.

I ended up relapsing after around 100 days and started feeling really **** again.

So i just finished another 90 days a few weeks ago.

This time after the 90 days ive done occasional masterbation but with NO porn, just my imagination.... and its fine.

I mean the day after i maybe dip slightly in energy but thats about it, all the other bad stuff does not happen.

So from my experiences, cut out porn but if you want to jerk off once in a while thats not a problem.

Kind of makes sense since men were jerking off for 100s of years without issie but gag factor or whatever has only been out for like 10 years and its just now dudes are having all these porn related issues.
 

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I will tell you this and I think it is a perspective a lot of other guys will share somehow: I talked to a girl for the first time two days ago. My type of body, she talked the way I like a girl to talk. I literally came three times in a row inside 3 hours timeframe. Felt good as ****, every orgasm was strong and kinda moved me completely.

There are two types of faping: inspirational faping and depression faping. Inspirational one is when you just feel like cumming because a girl or a thought made you. Depression/addiction fapping is the one where your life is **** and you just need to watch that porn and have that orgasm to make possible the release of dopamine in the blood so that you can feel good for a short time. This is the kind of fapping none should do, I think.
 

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I will tell you this and I think it is a perspective a lot of other guys will share somehow: I talked to a girl for the first time two days ago. My type of body, she talked the way I like a girl to talk. I literally came three times in a row inside 3 hours timeframe. Felt good as ****, every orgasm was strong and kinda moved me completely.

There are two types of faping: inspirational faping and depression faping. Inspirational one is when you just feel like cumming because a girl or a thought made you. Depression/addiction fapping is the one where your life is **** and you just need to watch that porn and have that orgasm to make possible the release of dopamine in the blood so that you can feel good for a short time. This is the kind of fapping none should do, I think.
Agree 100%. I think there are some benefits to semen retention so dont go wasting it.

But yeah if im horny as and sex isnt an option at that time ill do it but otherwise no.
 

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+1 this is true


^^If you've been on this site for a while and aren't getting dates,laid,girlfriend, ltr, etc. AND you watch and jerk off to porn regularly, watch this video. It could very well change your life.
 
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That's only because the vast majority of women don't look NEARLY as hot as pornstars. I have the body of Poseidon, and while I wasn't expecting a girl to look like an Aphrodite, I still expected her to take care of herself more. Boy oh boy, was I disappointed when I saw how disgusting that chick looked with her clothes off. Women's fashion is SO misleading. I wish most girls actually did look like pornstars or have the waist to hip ratio of Wonder Woman or tits as big as other comic book characters lol. Most men don't look like Superman either though. But I think more guys take care of their bodies more than girls imo.
 

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Is no porn, is no chicken choking, is wang!!!:p
 

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Watch the video @btownbuck2012 posted.

It's more than just pornstars looking hotter than women in real life or sex in real life being different.

It's about novelty and psychological dopamine addiction causing arousal issues, not because the girl you brought home looks nothing like a pornstar.

Porn-induced erectile dysfunction is very real (inability to achieve a rock hard erection during sex, or an any erection at all during sex in some cases , and the inability to maintain a rock hard erection). Many people are so accustomed to this or attribute it to performance anxiety that they don't even realize they have PIED, to some degree:

Cut porn out of your life completely and abstain from masturbation temporarily until your brain recovers from the effects of porn addiction and you will notice within 2 weeks a difference in erection quality and duration. It takes about 60+ days to fully reset your brain.

I know, because I've done it.
 

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Watch the video @btownbuck2012 posted.

It's more than just pornstars looking hotter than women in real life or sex in real life being different.

It's about novelty and psychological dopamine addiction causing arousal issues, not because the girl you brought home looks nothing like a pornstar.

Porn-induced erectile dysfunction is very real (inability to achieve a rock hard erection during sex, or an any erection at all during sex in some cases , and the inability to maintain a rock hard erection). Many people are so accustomed to this or attribute it to performance anxiety that they don't even realize they have PIED, to some degree:

Cut porn out of your life completely and abstain from masturbation temporarily until your brain recovers from the effects of porn addiction and you will notice within 2 weeks a difference in erection quality and duration. It takes about 60+ days to fully reset your brain.

I know, because I've done it.
Great post mate. Should be pinned as a example for others and also as clarification to what is the real problem. Just myself realized I really need to cut out all porn from my life too
 

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I think this is bang on the money! I've never been more than a couple of weeks without fapping!

Going to do a 90 day challenge like inferno!
 

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+1 this is true


^^If you've been on this site for a while and aren't getting dates,laid,girlfriend, ltr, etc. AND you watch and jerk off to porn regularly, watch this video. It could very well change your life.
Brother, a lot of people don't get it but i'm TELLING them, this is 100% ****ING TRUTH

I watched Porn from 14 years old until 27.

I joined sosuave and got into the whole "game" thing at 26 after 26 years of failure and i learned a lot but i struggled so badly to put what i learned into ACTION

I had poor self esteem which i just couldn't seem to get rid of, I lacked motivation and focus, i was tired all the time and low level depression and poor emotional control.

Despite KNOWING what to do, i could not EXECUTE

After somewhere like 45 days of nofap I experienced a sudden shift, it was like in the movie logan where he takes the serum and just suddenly goes beast mode, that was me.

Tiredness - gone
Depression - gone
Motivation - suddenly i had **** loads of it
Poor self esteem - gone
Emotional control - vastly improved

What's more i stopped covertly hating women for not giving me what i wanted. Because i was a fat, lazy, horrible p.o.s and i didn't deserve jack **** in that state.

I came to realize that if you want something good, you kind of need to be something good yourself. And THAT shift in mindset has lead me to great success and a lot of fun

I didn't belive in nofap but it really does work, but as per OP it's the PORN that's the issue.

When i relapsed first time i was browsing porn for like an hour after 100+ days of 0 porn and i honestly felt like i was drugged or something. My body temperature went through the roof and i had a hangover like headache for hours after it. I knew then that this was serious ****. A brain bathed in dopamine does not function correctly.

So i echo the quoted post if you know what you should be doing but can't get your **** together, get rid of the porn.
 
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I didn't belive in nofap but it really does work, but as per OP it's the PORN that's the issue.
Did you cut out fapping with porn, or fapping altogether? And how did you manage 45 days without fapping completely, didn't you go crazy? Or did you cvm in the meantime with sex?
 

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Did you cut out fapping with porn, or fapping altogether? And how did you manage 45 days without fapping completely, didn't you go crazy? Or did you cvm in the meantime with sex?
First streak i cut out fapping altogether which is recommended for at least the first few weeks (porn goes permenantly) to get the full benefits.

I had sex on day 20 something then a few times after that so it wasn't a huge issue.

Jizz does come out when you piss though (srs)
 

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First streak i cut out fapping altogether which is recommended for at least the first few weeks (porn goes permenantly) to get the full benefits.

I had sex on day 20 something then a few times after that so it wasn't a huge issue.

Jizz does come out when you piss though (srs)
I tried nofap but my balls where constantly aching and in fact I got more ED after nofap. Cutting porn is very good but I have to fap once a week or two. Additionaly when I fap once a while I become more horny for several next days.
 

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I reckon the key is really to cut out all the porn
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I tried nofap but my balls where constantly aching and in fact I got more ED after nofap. Cutting porn is very good but I have to fap once a week or two. Additionaly when I fap once a while I become more horny for several next days.
When abstaining from masturbation, it's very common in the first two months to experience days or even weeks where you d!ck is pretty much dead, flatlines, and doesn't work too good. This is normal. Don't confuse a temporary flatline in erection quality and duration as a permanent effect, it happens to nearly everyone but it will eventually pass.

The reason why you feel more horny for a few days after you fap (or have sex) is what's known as the "chaser effect"... basically it's like relapsing on a drug after you've abstained from it for awhile, you brain activity revolves around trying to get that dopamine surge again (through orgasm or porn, or whatever caused the dopamine surge in the first place).

My balls have never ached in my life so I can't help you there.

EDIT: Have you ever been on the receiving end of a good flick to one of the nuts? That sh!t fvcking stings!
 

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Brother, a lot of people don't get it but i'm TELLING them, this is 100% ****ING TRUTH

I watched Porn from 14 years old until 27.

I joined sosuave and got into the whole "game" thing at 26 after 26 years of failure and i learned a lot but i struggled so badly to put what i learned into ACTION

I had poor self esteem which i just couldn't seem to get rid of, I lacked motivation and focus, i was tired all the time and low level depression and poor emotional control.

Despite KNOWING what to do, i could not EXECUTE

After somewhere like 45 days of nofap I experienced a sudden shift, it was like in the movie logan where he takes the serum and just suddenly goes beast mode, that was me.

Tiredness - gone
Depression - gone
Motivation - suddenly i had **** loads of it
Poor self esteem - gone
Emotional control - vastly improved

What's more i stopped covertly hating women for not giving me what i wanted. Because i was a fat, lazy, horrible p.o.s and i didn't deserve jack **** in that state.

I came to realize that if you want something good, you kind of need to be something good yourself. And THAT shift in mindset has lead me to great success and a lot of fun

I didn't belive in nofap but it really does work, but as per OP it's the PORN that's the issue.

When i relapsed first time i was browsing porn for like an hour after 100+ days of 0 porn and i honestly felt like i was drugged or something. My body temperature went through the roof and i had a hangover like headache for hours after it. I knew then that this was serious ****. A brain bathed in dopamine does not function correctly.

So i echo the quoted post if you know what you should be doing but can't get your **** together, get rid of the porn.
What if you're a youngster like me? Fapping doesn't make me feel much different tbh. Maybe it's because I'm younger? Did you notice any differences when you were my age?
 

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I dont really feel like giving an opinion.

I got my max bench press record on monday after fapping in the shower sunday night.
It wasnt even a horny fapping just a relax one.

But at the same time I notice that when I dont fap for enough days Im mentally sharper and more relaxed.
 

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I find my sex drive as a whole decreases if I don't masturbate. With or without porn doesn't seem to matter but I tend to look at mostly pictures rather than videos and only to get started, then I switch to using my imagination.

The nofap/yourbrainonporn movement is started by religious anti-porn and anti-masturbation groups and not based on any sound science.
 

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I find my sex drive as a whole decreases if I don't masturbate. With or without porn doesn't seem to matter but I tend to look at mostly pictures rather than videos and only to get started, then I switch to using my imagination.

The nofap/yourbrainonporn movement is started by religious anti-porn and anti-masturbation groups and not based on any sound science.
Clearly you havent seen the previous video posted.
 
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