Getting hot girls while having a white collar profession, thoughts and advice?

[Listen_to_Olly]

It does seem like while it is good to study hard and get the job as a big 4 accountant, software engineer, banker (working 80+ hours a week), or doctor (won't start making real money until your 30s); hot girls see those guys as financial security blankets. I have found that it is DJs (not Don Juans but like actual DJs), bartenders, nightclub promoters, and those kinds of guys that actually get hot girls here in America.

Now of course my meaning of hot girls is a Candice Swanepoel (relax, I am white so I can have that preference) and not some quirky Asian woman.

Over the years I have seen how so many guys I know in white collar professions typically end up with very average looking women and disappointing sex lives.

It makes me wonder if a man can really have both, success with hot girls without having to take part in high risk ventures like trying to be a famous singer or working at a nightclub. I used to work as a bartender doing that for my entire life made me feel like a loser. Being in my 20s I had that paranoia in me to get ahead in regards to a career but I also fear being one of those sexless white collar types.

What are your thoughts guys?

 

[El Payaso]

It's very possible to have a white collar job and still fvck hot girls.

For the most part, you just have to live in the right location for it (NYC, Miami, Chicago etc) not some loser town in nowheresville, midwest USA.

As long as you're reasonably attractive, have an outgoing personality and well built, you'll have a good pull.

 

[Infern0]

This is seriously backwards thinking.

I mean for sure in white collar professions there is a large amount of what i'd call "below average smv" guys.

But you certainly dont have to be one of them.

El payaso is correct on this one.

Keep in good shape, maintain an interesting social life and leave work at work and all is good.

If you can do that its actually a good thing because you get the pick of all the interns (just be careful)

 

[bigneil]

It does seem like while it is good to study hard a.. it is DJs (not Don Juans but like actual DJs), bartenders, nightclub promoters, and those kinds of guys that actually get hot girls here in America.

Guys I know in white collar professions typically end up with very average looking women and disappointing sex lives.

What are your thoughts guys?

Our thoughts are we're tired of your pro-college-dude theme. Man, you REALLY don't want to get a job. To the point of being maniacal.

And of course, now Olly (after describing male bartenders as the ultimate male for months now) admits he used to be a bartender (and even a male).

Olly's posts can be summarized as this: "I love coming to America but I've noticed that you're way better off being young, hot and broke here than older, strong and successful".

 

[bigneil]

One of these girls is Candice Swanepoel, a model (age 18) who Olly has referred to as the penultimate beauty. The other is another model (age 21) who bigneil has referred to as the penultimate beauty (and who happens to be dating a successful, older white collar worker who was never employed as a cabana boy). Can anyone see which one is which? Note the similar natural look, shiny skin, sandy hair, sparkling eyes and luscious lips? I guess Olly and I have something in common after all.

 

[devilkingx2]

obviously you can get girls with a white collar job, however it's not the job that will impress the girls very much, it's the money mostly.

but assuming you don't need status from your job to supplement your game, you should be fine anywhere

 

[devilkingx2]

One of these girls is Candice Swanepoel, a model (age 18) who Olly has referred to as the penultimate beauty. The other is another model (age 21) who bigneil has referred to as the penultimate beauty (and who happens to be dating a successful, older white collar worker who was never employed as a cabana boy). Can anyone see which one is which? Note the similar natural look, shiny skin, sandy hair, sparkling eyes and luscious lips? I guess Olly and I have something in common after all.

candace is pretty obviously the one on the left.

 

[guru1000]

One of these girls is Candice Swanepoel, a model (age 18) who Olly has referred to as the penultimate beauty. The other is another model (age 21) who bigneil has referred to as the penultimate beauty (and who happens to be dating a successful, older white collar worker who was never employed as a cabana boy). Can anyone see which one is which? Note the similar natural look, shiny skin, sandy hair, sparkling eyes and luscious lips? I guess Olly and I have something in common after all.

All BS aside, the first is a 9, the second a 6. Entirely different bone structure. Is this the girl you've been worshipping as of late?

Neil, a successful, good-looking guy in his 40s? You can do much better.

 

[fastlife]

It makes me wonder if a man can really have both, success with hot girls without having to take part in high risk ventures like trying to be a famous singer or working at a nightclub. I used to work as a bartender doing that for my entire life made me feel like a loser. Being in my 20s I had that paranoia in me to get ahead in regards to a career but I also fear being one of those sexless white collar types.

What are your thoughts guys?

It all comes down to two things--whether you're working a white collar job or you're a drug dealer in the hood: Risk and Passion. Those two elements are what women find arousing. Given how much security society has put in place for women, unless they come from a super poor background, women have very little want or motivation to seek financial security until they've aged out of their prime. Risk and Passion are rare commodities in modern life and women, with their need to feel the full range of emotions & identify the best genetic potential, seek out those two qualities.

Now, it's possible to work a white collar job you're absolutely in love with--or to have elements of risk in other aspects of your life (maybe you're a corporate drone Monday-Friday, but you ride a Harley on the weekends). But most guys work their azzes off to get into a white collar profession to:

• Qualify for women's desire (indicator of low internal self-worth).
• Because it's what society tells them to do (inability to stand up to social pressure).
• Because it's safe (lack of passion, unwillingness to take risk).
• Pressure from a wife/girlfriend to acquire more resources (Beta Bucks).

Even if you take someone like @bigneil or @guru1000, who've achieved a higher degree of financial success, they also took on overwhelming risks to achieve that level of success (from what I can gather from their backstories), both hitting rock bottom & rebuilding in the process, which is different from the guy who works the same 9-5 for decades (even if he makes 6 figures) but sacrifices a huge degree of agency or individual potential for the benefit of the company.

The real issue is to figure out what you'd like to achieve, how to best achieve that, and, most importantly, why you want to achieve that in the first place. Once you can answer those questions, whatever you're doing will be attractive to girls (assuming you know how to package it effectively).

 

[sazc]

the 'not Candance Swanepol' one has really weirdly shaped boobs
she also looks like she is underage

 

[dustmuffin]

All BS aside, the first is a 9, the second a 6. Entirely different bone structure. Is this the girl you've been worshipping as of late?

Neil, a successful, good-looking guy in his 40s? You can do much better.

He is looking for validation. I think his girl is very attractive. Niel you need to lose your ego. You seem to need validation from others quite a bit.

 

[dustmuffin]

the 'not Candance Swanepol' one has really weirdly shaped boobs
she also looks like she is underage

I think they are pointy boobs. She is not underaged. She might even have puffy nipples.

 

[btownbuck2012]

It does seem like while it is good to study hard and get the job as a big 4 accountant, software engineer, banker (working 80+ hours a week), or doctor (won't start making real money until your 30s); hot girls see those guys as financial security blankets. I have found that it is DJs (not Don Juans but like actual DJs), bartenders, nightclub promoters, and those kinds of guys that actually get hot girls here in America.

Now of course my meaning of hot girls is a Candice Swanepoel (relax, I am white so I can have that preference) and not some quirky Asian woman.

Over the years I have seen how so many guys I know in white collar professions typically end up with very average looking women and disappointing sex lives.

It makes me wonder if a man can really have both, success with hot girls without having to take part in high risk ventures like trying to be a famous singer or working at a nightclub. I used to work as a bartender doing that for my entire life made me feel like a loser. Being in my 20s I had that paranoia in me to get ahead in regards to a career but I also fear being one of those sexless white collar types.

What are your thoughts guys?

Great topic of conversation. Pook wrote an excellent article about this a while back: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/towards-manhood.16552/

 

[Von]

I think they are pointy boobs. She is not underaged. She might even have puffy nipples.

It"s due to the boob job? He showed pictures of her before seeking our approval

The model pic on the left, ain't a good pic of her at all...If you look other pictures she has much better ones... but it shows how when you play the camera, you can improve someone look ALOT.

Maybe you guys passed her without even noticing her. Models are chosen based on how they can be improved by the camera (angle etc..) and makeup.

I don't get the OP thread.. who cares about the job, who cares about the ethincity, who cares about location.... If you want to have a girl in your life, you have to be active in some sort of forms (talking to them for example). Also what kind of whitecollar job? Bureaucrats?

Personnally, I prefer whitecollar professionnal (lawyer,engineer,doctors,tech) with social life cause they have 1) more education 2) girl are more conserved 3) keep their shape 4) have ambitions 5) have hobbies

All those who say: I work than go home watch TV...I erase them from my life

The higher you go on the ladder, the more girls are hot in my opinion... unless they work in the fashion business (no education but still hot and hard working).

In the nightlife, there is alot of hot girls but they tend to become ''low quality - drink - party only etc..'' like people who never wanted to leave high-school... hard to develop anything than a lay...also in the ''nightlife-restaurant business'' they keep together and always odd hours

 

[bigneil]

For those who might defy reality and pretend one of these girls isn't that hot, or that one isn't a good photo, here are their official scores (a tie at 99% in looks). Note that one scored 16% higher in the 3-score average.

 

[dustmuffin]

What it comes down to is work with what you have. If you are white collar then be the best damn wc worker you can be. Lift, better yourself. Work on game. Don't worry about what you are not. Improve into what you want to be.

 

[bigneil]

If Olly is correct about his months of preaching, if younger bartender types tend to score hotter girls than older white collar workers, shouldn't Olly (a younger, former bartender) be the one posting photos of models he actually knows, and shouldn't I (a 46 year old computer nerd) be the one posting fantasies about famous models who I've never even been in the same city as?

 

[dustmuffin]

Here is another point of view. When I was younger I was very picky. Her ti ts were too small. Her ass was too big. They were attractive women that wanted to f uck me but I came up with a reason that I didn't want them. Now after the wisdom of age, if I could go back I would f uck every one of them. Now I don't do that. If they have good hygiene, are fairly attractive and not land whales I will try to f uck them. I have found many wild women this way. If you are young don't be too picky. When you get older you will regret it.

Fu ck every decent woman you come across. You just might find a diamond in the rough.

 

[guru1000]

Here is another point of view. When I was younger I was very picky. Her ti ts were too small. Her ass was too big. They were attractive women that wanted to f uck me but I came up with a reason that I didn't want them. Now after the wisdom of age, if I could go back I would f uck every one of them. Now I don't do that. If they have good hygiene, are fairly attractive and not land whales I will try to f uck them. I have found many wild women this way. If you are young don't be too picky. When you get older you will regret it.

Fu ck every decent woman you come across. You just might find a diamond in the rough.

This is a strong thought process and would probably serve most men well, rather than pedestal-ing pvzzy, BUT I can't get it up with a 6. These days even a 7 barely gets me up (maybe one time due to the novelty).

 

[dustmuffin]

I'm a white collar guy. I have a date tonight with a harvard educated woman. She is attractive and 45. Dean at a large university. It's a second date. I will try to f uck her. On the first date I was grabbing her ass and stroking her thigh. She loved it. It doesn't matter. On her old profile she said she was an alpha female seeking an alpha male.

I will just be the best me I can be. I will learn from my mistakes and from my successes. That's all I can do. I don't worry about anything else becasue if I screw up I know that there are 500,000 women in my city. There is not a shortage of p ussy.

Do your best and learn.