The Professional Victim

[soulforge]

How many of you have dealt with woman like these?

I'm talking about, when she has clearly fuked up.. done something to embarrass you.. or upset you

But she can NEVER EVER accept fukin responsibility.. you have to draw this bich a fukin picture, just to make her realise what she has done..

Otherwise she is completely oblivious about her actions..

And when you call her out on her BS she then takes on the role of the VICTIM.. and tries to make you feel bad.

The word SORRY doesn't even exist to them..

Is this a form of Narcissism?

I just did nearly two years of this kinda chit.. do these woman lack empathy or remorse?

Seriously man any guys in LTRs right now, who's GF does not make an effort to take responsibility for her actions.. and does not come to you with a sincere apology..

You need to drop that girl.. otherwise your life will become a hell.. you will eventually resent resent and hate her!

These red flags should never be ignored.

 

[sazc]

Im thinking that, if your female has multiple situations where she needs to take responsibility for her actions, you should have dropped her the second time this occurred.

People come the way they ARE. If you encounter situations where you feel you need to explain their behavior, and why it is wrong, do it once and draw your boundaries. If any shiz occurs again, demote to plate status or exit stage left with the explanation of "we're just not the right people for each other'

Set Personal Standards And Stick To Them

To answer your question - yes, there are professional victims. Some have no clue that is the way they are and some use it as a manipulation tactic. Doesnt matter which is your chick, run far away.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

By the age of 15 or 16 I'd assume that most relationship stuff is common sense to women. That assumption is generally true too, it's just that women tend to ignore or overstep these rules because they know that there won't be any repercussions.

 

[Young OG]

Sounds like my kids mom. Everything is always someone else's fault. She can do no wrong.

There is guys like this too. A guy I know from school is like this. He is always a victim. I don't even take his calls anymore, cause all I'll hear is, this person did this or this place did that to me.

These kind of people will never change. Sadly, its sometimes hard to pick up on this stuff right when you meet someone. You usually have to get to know them before you discover that there a victim.

 

[Billtx49]

Reminds me of something an older man told me when I was way younger.
People are either a hammer or a nail, you decide what you want to be.
Hammers obviously being people that make things happen and take responsibility for their actions. Not hard guess what the role and excuse of the nail has…

 

[soulforge]

Im thinking that, if your female has multiple situations where she needs to take responsibility for her actions, you should have dropped her the second time this occurred.

People come the way they ARE. If you encounter situations where you feel you need to explain their behavior, and why it is wrong, do it once and draw your boundaries. If any shiz occurs again, demote to plate status or exit stage left with the explanation of "we're just not the right people for each other'

Set Personal Standards And Stick To Them

To answer your question - yes, there are professional victims. Some have no clue that is the way they are and some use it as a manipulation tactic. Doesnt matter which is your chick, run far away.

I personally found, you get to the point where you start questioning your own sanity..

when she makes you believe, that its not her.. but YOU

 

[dude99]

How many of you have dealt with woman like these?

I'm talking about, when she has clearly fuked up.. done something to embarrass you.. or upset you

But she can NEVER EVER accept fukin responsibility.. you have to draw this bich a fukin picture, just to make her realise what she has done..

Otherwise she is completely oblivious about her actions..

And when you call her out on her BS she then takes on the role of the VICTIM.. and tries to make you feel bad.

The word SORRY doesn't even exist to them..

Is this a form of Narcissism?

I just did nearly two years of this kinda chit.. do these woman lack empathy or remorse?

Seriously man any guys in LTRs right now, who's GF does not make an effort to take responsibility for her actions.. and does not come to you with a sincere apology..

You need to drop that girl.. otherwise your life will become a hell.. you will eventually resent resent and hate her!

These red flags should never be ignored.

This is cluster b material for sure. People who have this victim personality and are always pointing rhe blame on anyone but themselves are not relationship material. Do not give this type of girl your time. Nothing good will ever come from it.

 

[dude99]

I personally found, you get to the point where you start questioning your own sanity..

when she makes you believe, that its not her.. but YOU

If you are questioning yourself then she is mentally abusing you with either mental games or gas lighting. Dump. Walk away.

You should never ever need to question your own peace of mind.


If you find yourself in a situation where there is too much baggage in the relationship, ask yourself one question. "Is she part of the cargo or is she part of the crew."

A girl who is blame blame blame is not helping you. Dump. Do not look back.

Next.

 

[MrWiggles]

You are STILL droning on about that 45 year old???

 

[soulforge]

why do we end up in a constant loop of believing things will change & get better..

my weakness was her beauty, and my belief that I cannot do BETTER than her..

Scarcity mind-set.. Validation Seeking..

We put up with chit simply because we cannot do better!

If you are questioning yourself then she is mentally abusing you with either mental games or gas lighting. Dump. Walk away.

You should never ever need to question your own peace of mind.


If you find yourself in a situation where there is too much baggage in the relationship, ask yourself one question. "Is she part of the cargo or is she part of the crew."

A girl who is blame blame blame is not helping you. Dump. Do not look back.

Next.

Yes i feel you there.. its like a no win situation.. she fuks up and she can't see she fuked up..

You call her out on her BS and she hates you for it.. believes your the bad guy!

You have to point that chit out to them, like your training a dog..

In the long run... you can never win in a situation like this.. best off cut your losses and get the fuk out..

But when that girl is very attractive, successful.. exciting to be around.. this becomes a very difficult thing to do..

We always fear, that we cannot find a better girl than her again!!

 

[dude99]

why do we end up in a constant loop of believing things will change & get better..

my weakness was her beauty, and my belief that I cannot do BETTER than her..

Scarcity mind-set.. Validation Seeking..

We put up with chit simply because we cannot do better!



Yes i feel you there.. its like a no win situation.. she fuks up and she can't see she fuked up..

You call her out on her BS and she hates you for it.. believes your the bad guy!

You have to point that chit out to them, like your training a dog..

In the long run... you can never win in a situation like this.. best off cut your losses and get the fuk out..

But when that girl is very attractive, successful.. exciting to be around.. this becomes a very difficult thing to do..

We always fear, that we cannot find a better girl than her again!!

When you realize you are the prize you don't have to fear that you can't do better.

If crap is the only thing available then do without until you meet new women. Setteling because you are afraid of being along is the first ingredient in a receipie for disaster

 

[bigneil]

1) OP is simply describing women in general
2) OP is being a professional victim in declaring her one (the same way you have to be a narcissist to prove someone is NPD, and you have to be borderline to prove someone is BPD).

If the woman is that bad, leave, don't prove her wrong.

Posting this thread is like calling us into the bedroom and saying "See? Her as-s looks big, no?"

 

[resilient]

When you realize you are the prize you don't have to fear that you can't do better.

If crap is the only thing available then do without until you meet new women. Setteling because you are afraid of being along is the first ingredient in a receipie for disaster

This. It's all about self-respect.

If a guy rationalizes putting up with disrespect and getting walked all over just because she's attractive -- he has lost.

If he feels he can't do better in the moment than he has lost any shred of will power he had in the relationship. She will disrespect him further because he's fully aware of this realization.

It's better to cut ties and walk away and be alone for as long as necessary with zero plates than remain in an emotionally unhealthy relationship with one main plate that you let erode your self-esteem.

Be a better, stronger DJ. Always be willing (and ready) to walk.

 

[bigneil]

Back in May 1994 when this album came out (Come Out and Play being their debut single) I was waiting outside my girlfriend's house at 2pm wondering when she would come home (after she spent 24 hours with another man). That was the first time I heard this song, as I lived it.

 

[bigneil]

This. It's all about self-respect.

If a guy rationalizes putting up with disrespect and getting walked all over just because she's attractive -- he has lost.

Be a better, stronger DJ. Always be willing (and ready) to walk.

Not only that, but a woman can actually fall in love with a man simply by his act of putting her in her place.

I recently had a girl tell me "Neil, I normally own everyone and get my way every time, and I can demand whatever I want, and you turned the tables (by threatening to find another model if she was late again) and you had me begging you just for a chance to see you - I couldn't believe it!". Years ago I had a girl fall simply because I replied to her page-long LJBF email with a "No".

 

[Trump]

Bro come on you can't be that naive. Why would a woman (or anyone for that matter) apologize when they can twist words act innocent and play the victim to get money and sympathy from others?

Woman don't care what is right or wrong. They have no morals. They want what they want and will manipulate men to get it. If crying doesn't work, they will try victimization, if that doesn't work, they will threaten, if that doesn't work, they will put down and insult, if that doesn't work, lastly they will use the threat of abandonment; "No girl will want you, good luck finding a girl that will agree to what you propose, you will be alone forever!"

Women should ONLY be along for the ride. If they start acting up, go sleep with their friend.

 

[old_skoolr]

I think you should be following some golden rules of Djing.

1. Let a hoe be a hoe.

2. You cant make a hoe into a housewife.

 

[bigneil]

You cant make a hoe into a housewife.

Why would you do that?? Talk about a step in the wrong direction. That would be like smashing a bottle of fresh milk.

 

[old_skoolr]

Why would you do that?? Talk about a step in the wrong direction. That would be like smashing a bottle of fresh milk.

No it'll actually be like taking a disgusting curdled bottle of milk, drinking it and then say "Wow this bottle tastes amazing, it tastes so fresh" while its killing your insides.

This is what toxic women like this do.

OP needs to start recognizing these traits regardless if its about women in general or a specific chick, and avoid these women or use and abuse them, whatever tickles his pickle.

 

[sazc]

Seems like @soulforge is starting to be able to see these traits early, that's a great thing!