What is an "ugly guy" really?

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I mean, in my mind its actually pretty rare you see a true "ugly" guy.

I think in most cases guys who come across omas ugly they have some mix of the following.

Unfit/out of shape.
No sense of style
Low level aura or bad attitude (no confidence)
Bad skin/hair/teeth from poor health etc

Someone said "health is beautiful" which i agree with.

Whats your thoughts on this? Is "ugly guys" as common as people think? Or is it mostly a symptom of poor lifestyle?

Case in point below.

 

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You're correct. Any guy can be physically attractive if they're willing to work at it.
 

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Ugliness is lacking proper biological structure for a male, like having a weak jawline for example. The guys in your pics werent ugly, they were out of shape until they fixed it. You cant fix ugly.
 

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Ugliness is lacking proper biological structure for a male, like having a weak jawline for example. The guys in your pics werent ugly, they were out of shape until they fixed it. You cant fix ugly.
Chew a pack of gum everyday and chew hard, you'll have a strong jawline in no time.

OP, we could say the same thing about women. People in general are just out of shape, don't care about themselves enough to really make themselves attractive.
 

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When I think of women that I find unattractive, they could move heaven and earth and it isn't going to change my opinion. I find it hard to believe that it is so different for males, that they can just lift some weights and eat better, and suddenly "poof" they're handsome.

Some people just look better than others. If Danny Devito would just hit the gym harder, he'd be pulling as much @ss as Arnold Schwarzeneggar? Really? You can maximize what you have, that's about all you can do.
 

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You're correct. Any guy can be physically attractive if they're willing to work at it.
I would generally agree with this. Most men with good physique, charisma, style, and takes proper care of themself will be at least a 7.

It is the little things like..
-glasses that fit your face
-facial hair or not
-proper haircut
-proper skincare
-enough sleep = no bags, droopy eyes, or poor posture
 

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I didn't say all guys can be 10s if they want to be. I said any guy can be physically attractive if they work at it.

Danny doesn't need looks, because he's got the cash and personality down, but I assume you weren't specifically talking about him.

If someone looked like that, yes, they could be physically attractive by working at it. They won't be AS physically attractive as a 6'2" cut guy with a strong jawline, but again, I never said that.
 

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Chew a pack of gum everyday and chew hard, you'll have a strong jawline in no time.
Chewing a pack of gum won't rearrange bone.

If you look like Danny DeVito nothing can help you.
I know what you were trying to say and I agree with you but Danny's a bad example. He look alright when he was younger. He's just old now. Better example is Andy Milonakis.
 

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Chewing a pack of gum won't rearrange bone.



I know what you were trying to say and I agree with you but Danny's a bad example. He look alright when he was younger. He's just old now. Better example is Andy Milonakis.
I was talking more about Danny's height. For women, short means ugly.
 

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Understand there is the "not my physical type" realm. Where a woman is not attracted, BUT ONLY because she prefers a different Body type or hair color or height.

These preferences habe nothing to do with standards of physical attractiveness.

In fact, I think it's safe to say this is more often the cause of rejection.
 

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When I think of women that I find unattractive, they could move heaven and earth and it isn't going to change my opinion.
a 300 pound girl looks like an entirely different girl when she weighs 140 and goes to the gym
 

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Chewing a pack of gum won't rearrange bone.



I know what you were trying to say and I agree with you but Danny's a bad example. He look alright when he was younger. He's just old now. Better example is Andy Milonakis.
Chewing gum helps the muscle in your cheeks. It won't make your jaw bone bigger but it will make it look slightly more defined. Plus it'll be unlikely that you will have bad breath.

Andy has very good Charisma skills in my opinion. He knows how to have fun and just be an overral real dude. People's first impression of him is always going to be that "fat 14 year old" until he starts talking.
 

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true, unfixable without plastic surgery ugliness is a rare trait

most ugly people just don't put enough effort into looking good
 

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With all physical attraction, men and women are the same.

If you're short, you can't grow.
If you're too tall, you can't shrink.

If you don't have a symmetrical face, you can't do much.

It's possible to get plastic surgery of course, but I wouldn't recommend it.

It's possible to get a brace (teeth), get lasek (eye surgery), go to the gym regularly, fix your diet, master your posture, get a great hair style, fix your style, where shirts guys. Smart shirts. pluck your eyebrows, clean your nails etc.

Women can go a step further and add make up, some guys I know do this too.

Arash Dibazar wears eye liner and nail polish.

On that note, you can also get some tattoos to enhance your image.

You basically clean up, dress well and work out.
 

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Rhinoplasty;
Chin, jaw, or cheek augmentation or reduction;
Eye lift or straightening;
Fillers for volume or symmetry in any area;
Liposuction for double chins;
FUT hair replacement;
Limb-lengthening procedures to get taller;
Teeth straightening;
Diet/exercise.

Ugly is a choice.

True, Danny Devito could never be a Schwarzenegger, but he doesn't have to be a Devito either.
 

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Protip: Do not depend upon physical appearance to do the heavy lifting regarding attraction. We'll all deteriorate in our looks eventually.

A strong awesome personality will make people forget all about how you look. It takes greater confidence to be awesome while looking ugly than if you look stunning.
 
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