money does not make the man

[guru1000]

Speaking about money, my favorite scene:

Pikers, hehe

 

[zekko]

Personally, I'd be fine with feminism as long as it cut out the hatred of white men.
Women want a life of cubical careerism? Great. I'm not responsible for them then.

I have no problem with women being able to work, I've worked with many women, and most are quite capable. The problem with feminism here is more complicated - it has destroyed the nuclear family.

With both men and women working, the economy has expanded so as to (usually) require both parents to work in order to live comfortably. Children have become such a major expense and such a major inconvenience that the birth rate is down. Overpopulation can be a problem, but a society needs to replace its people in order to be successful. And then if there are children, the woman cannot/does not stay home and raise them. Throw in no fault divorce and what children there are, not enough are being raised within the family.

I'm also intelligent and ambitious and as such really appreciate a man who is successful in his own right because I like discussion that centers on topics of pursuit of ambition, strategy, etc. I also need to be able to respect that the man as a man and lots of factors figure into this.

It's not necessarily the money that makes a guy attractive, it's the skill, drive, and passion that makes him a successful man. As has been said, a young guy is not expected to have wealth yet. Get to be around 35, 40, and women will start to wonder what you have been doing with your life. Being able to support yourself well and stand on your own two feet is sexy, it shows you can handle yourself, handle your needs, and handle life. Women like competent men.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Quick! Let's get the virtue-signalling perspective of a 17 year old SJW boy who is too young to have ever had a job in his life!

Does ImTheDoubleGreatest realize he exists as a parasite and requires other people to fund him in order to live? His saying money doesn't mean anything is a f*cking joke. Without the tax dollars of those of us who work for a living, he would realize in a hurry why some women prefer men with jobs.

As if I ever said it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean it's the end-all be-all like you make it out to be though, that's your problem. You resort to making fun of others for supposedly having less money than you and if they counter your arrogant claim, then you resort to saying how you can beat them up because you knocked out a couple of drunk retards trying to start **** (that's not impressive by the way, everyone knows that you can't fight when your drunk so those guys were bound to lose even to a 13 year old). The funny thing is, I value money more than you do. But even I know that it shouldn't be the sole basis of what you stand on.

Let's see him graduate college, get a job, start a business, and make it to the top point one percent of income and then we can ask how much money means.

Watch me.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

ITDG BigNeil is making an excellent point here and the pattern is seen throughout this thread.

- Guys who are charity cases to some extent, to where they either don't have a lot of money and/or are LIVING off of someone else partially or in total........are the main people talking about "money doesn't matter."

- The guys who get up on Monday morning at 8:00 a.m. to run a business, manage investments, operate a career, etc. to produce their own money and have succeeded in life......are NOT running around here saying money doesn't matter.

This is very similar to the tax debate. The people who pay little or NO taxes are always in favor of raising taxes to create more "free shyt" because technically, THEY don't have to pay for it, it's my a.ss who has to pay for it.

To quote Ben Affleck's character from BOILER ROOM (Jim Young), "People claiming money is the root of all evil DOESN'T have any! They say money can't buy happiness, LOOK at the fvcking smile on my face!"

Look man, I never said money doesn't matter at all. It does matter, and I value it more than most people I even come across. But like I said, it shouldn't be the sole basis of what you stand for. Making $2 million a year shouldn't make you better than someone who makes 1$ million a year because at that point, it won't matter all that much (unless you plan to make your company a huge multinational conglomerate or something). Now they say money doesn't buy happiness, but I'd much rather have money than not lol. The reason why some people are unhappy with a fvckton of money is because they don't spend it so they can't enjoy what it brings, and/or because their whole life they've been focusing on MONEY and not themselves (stealing that from Pook). That's why I find almost everything Neil says to be asinine. How can you say that you are better than someone in all aspects of life when this someone is still superseding you in just about everything else? And how, above all, can you claim that to be better than them when everything you have done in your life was done for someone other than yourself? You aren't even living your own life at that point. And on top of that, who can you write libel about someone just because they disagreed with you and explained why?

 

[Tenacity]

Making $2 million a year shouldn't make you better than someone who makes 1$ million a year

But that's like a dude being a 9 in Looks and another guy being a 5 in Looks....with the guy that's a 5 saying that the other guy being a 9 shouldn't make him "better".

Life isn't fair, all of this is a game. A game of which when we die, we take nothing from this life over to the other side. It's all just a game for us to stack various chips, tokens, and other things in our favor so we can DOMINATE this life. Now, if you want to win at this game, the 5 essential things you need are:

- Money
- Nice Looks
- Good Personality
- Connections/Network
- Good Health

Notice I didn't even include fvcking talent, because quite honestly, if you have money, looks, a good personality, and good connections, they can supersede not having talent. I know a lot of TALENTED people who are dead fvcking broke and don't know where their next meal will come from.

So here's the thing, you should stop deluding yourselves:

* A guy that has $1 million net worth v.s. your $1,000 net worth, IS BETTER THAN YOU when it comes to money which is very important. He will have certain advantages in life that you don't have.

* A guy that is a 8 or 9 in Looks, and you are like a 4 or 5, is BETTER THAN YOU when it comes to looks which is very important. He will have certain advantages in life that you don't have.

* A guy that has a HB7 and higher, while you are stuck with a HB4, is BETTER THAN YOU.

* A guy with a 9 inch c0ck is better than you if you have a 6 inch c0ck.

* And so on, and so on.

Some things you can improve on and some things you can't. That's why I suggest trying to be the best version of yourself that you possibly can be. If you do that, you'll do fine.

But guys stop this nonsense about a guy having significantly more money than you, not being "better" than you....he IS better than you.

For example, my net worth is $200,000 but Guru and Big Neil say their Net Worth is over $1 million. That means they are BETTER THAN ME when it comes to money, which affords them certain advantages in life that I don't have "yet".

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

But that's like a dude being a 9 in Looks and another guy being a 5 in Looks....with the guy that's a 5 saying that the other guy being a 9 shouldn't make him "better".

Life isn't fair, all of this is a game. A game of which when we die, we take nothing from this life over to the other side. It's all just a game for us to stack various chips, tokens, and other things in our favor so we can DOMINATE this life. Now, if you want to win at this game, the 5 essential things you need are:

- Money
- Nice Looks
- Good Personality
- Connections/Network
- Good Health

Notice I didn't even include fvcking talent, because quite honestly, if you have money, looks, a good personality, and good connections, they can supersede not having talent. I know a lot of TALENTED people who are dead fvcking broke and don't know where their next meal will come from.

So here's the thing, you should stop deluding yourselves:

* A guy that has $1 million net worth v.s. your $1,000 net worth, IS BETTER THAN YOU when it comes to money which is very important. He will have certain advantages in life that you don't have.

* A guy that is a 8 or 9 in Looks, and you are like a 4 or 5, is BETTER THAN YOU when it comes to looks which is very important. He will have certain advantages in life that you don't have.

* A guy that has a HB7 and higher, while you are stuck with a HB4, is BETTER THAN YOU.

* A guy with a 9 inch c0ck is better than you if you have a 6 inch c0ck.

* And so on, and so on.

Some things you can improve on and some things you can't. That's why I suggest trying to be the best version of yourself that you possibly can be. If you do that, you'll do fine.

But guys stop this nonsense about a guy having significantly more money than you, not being "better" than you....he IS better than you.

For example, my net worth is $200,000 but Guru and Big Neil say their Net Worth is over $1 million. That means they are BETTER THAN ME when it comes to money, which affords them certain advantages in life that I don't have "yet".

Better in money, yes. But if you reread my post, I said it doesn't mean they are better than me in ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE.

 

[9Volt]

But that's like a dude being a 9 in Looks and another guy being a 5 in Looks....with the guy that's a 5 saying that the other guy being a 9 shouldn't make him "better".

Life isn't fair, all of this is a game. A game of which when we die, we take nothing from this life over to the other side. It's all just a game for us to stack various chips, tokens, and other things in our favor so we can DOMINATE this life. Now, if you want to win at this game, the 5 essential things you need are:

- Money
- Nice Looks
- Good Personality
- Connections/Network
- Good Health

Notice I didn't even include fvcking talent, because quite honestly, if you have money, looks, a good personality, and good connections, they can supersede not having talent. I know a lot of TALENTED people who are dead fvcking broke and don't know where their next meal will come from.

So here's the thing, you should stop deluding yourselves:

* A guy that has $1 million net worth v.s. your $1,000 net worth, IS BETTER THAN YOU when it comes to money which is very important. He will have certain advantages in life that you don't have.

* A guy that is a 8 or 9 in Looks, and you are like a 4 or 5, is BETTER THAN YOU when it comes to looks which is very important. He will have certain advantages in life that you don't have.

* A guy that has a HB7 and higher, while you are stuck with a HB4, is BETTER THAN YOU.

* A guy with a 9 inch c0ck is better than you if you have a 6 inch c0ck.

* And so on, and so on.

Some things you can improve on and some things you can't. That's why I suggest trying to be the best version of yourself that you possibly can be. If you do that, you'll do fine.

But guys stop this nonsense about a guy having significantly more money than you, not being "better" than you....he IS better than you.

For example, my net worth is $200,000 but Guru and Big Neil say their Net Worth is over $1 million. That means they are BETTER THAN ME when it comes to money, which affords them certain advantages in life that I don't have "yet".

So you consider some chick "better" than another one because her breasts are bigger? You really think because some guy has a bigger d1ck than some other dude that means he's automatically "better" in all aspects and chicks will disregard better looking dudes just because of his d1ck? That's like claiming Ron Jeremy is "better" than a Channing Tatum and chicks would disregard Channing and chase Ron because his d1ck is bigger. Ridiculous.

And a chick who is dating a hot guy is "better" than a chick who is single or isn't dating the hottest looking guy? That automatically means the single chick or the chick not dating the hottest dude is "uglier" or "not as good"?

Just because a person makes more money than someone else doesn't automatically make them "better".

Might as well say Bill Gates, Zuckerberg etc weren't "better" than others before they became billionaires simply because they weren't rich when they first started out. They proved they were better and thus the money followed.

 

[Tenacity]

So you consider some chick "better" than another one because her breasts are bigger? You really think because some guy has a bigger d1ck than some other dude that means he's automatically "better" in all aspects and chicks will disregard better looking dudes just because of his d1ck? That's like claiming Ron Jeremy is "better" than a Channing Tatum and chicks would disregard Channing and chase Ron because his d1ck is bigger. Ridiculous.

And a chick who is dating a hot guy is "better" than a chick who is single or isn't dating the hottest looking guy? That automatically means the single chick or the chick not dating the hottest dude is "uglier" or "not as good"?

Just because a person makes more money than someone else doesn't automatically make them "better".

Might as well say Bill Gates, Zuckerberg etc weren't "better" than others before they became billionaires simply because they weren't rich when they first started out. They proved they were better and thus the money followed.

Better in relation to the category we are discussing. Yes, a guy with a 9 inch c0ck is BETTER than you when it comes to c0cks, this doesn't mean that you can't make up for the deficit through eating pvssy, licking a.ss, and learning how to better "sex" your girl.

Guru and Big Neil are better than me at money status, as their net worth is $1 million while I'm at $200,000. Doesn't mean I can't make up for this by number one, continuing to strive to get to $1 million and number two, continuing to be smart with my money and career aspects.

I'm not trying to belitte anybody, but we have to admit our weaknesses and strengths so we can properly address what's WRONG, as well as continuing to build upon what's RIGHT.

But deluding yourself into saying "money doesn't matter" every 5 minutes because your net worth is like black women at $5 (I shyt you know, their net worth is really $5 www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/11/women-of-color-have-media_n_495238.html) to try to make yourself "feel good" about being broke........is BAD.

Being broke isn't good, it's a weakness, a very BIG weakness, much bigger than the guy with the 6 inch c0ck compared to the 9 inch c0ck guy. The 6 inch c0ck guy can do all sorts of things to make up for that weakness and that weakness isn't going to stop him from getting the vast majority of women, but being BROKE will negatively affect your life big time.

 

[9Volt]

Better in relation to the category we are discussing. Yes, a guy with a 9 inch c0ck is BETTER than you when it comes to c0cks, this doesn't mean that you can't make up for the deficit through eating pvssy, licking a.ss, and learning how to better "sex" your girl.

Guru and Big Neil are better than me at money status, as their net worth is $1 million while I'm at $200,000. Doesn't mean I can't make up for this by number one, continuing to strive to get to $1 million and number two, continuing to be smart with my money and career aspects.

I'm not trying to belitte anybody, but we have to admit our weaknesses and strengths so we can properly address what's WRONG, as well as continuing to build upon what's RIGHT.

But deluding yourself into saying "money doesn't matter" every 5 minutes because your net worth is like black women at $5 (I shyt you know, their net worth is really $5 www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/11/women-of-color-have-media_n_495238.html) to try to make yourself "feel good" about being broke........is BAD.

Being broke isn't good, it's a weakness, a very BIG weakness, much better than the guy with the 6 inch c0ck compared to the 9 inch c0ck guy. The 6 inch c0ck guy can do all sorts of things to make up for that weakness and that weakness isn't going to stop him from getting the vast majority of women, but being BROKE will negatively affect your life big time.

So you're one of those dudes who would chase some cow because she has bigger t1ts than some dime piece that doesn't have as big t1ts? LMFAO.

You know who most chicks chase? The dudes they find most attractive. You watch too much porn.

No one is saying to strive to be broke. Money is a fact of life. Just because some dude may make more doesn't make him "better". Might as well say a lotto winner is automatically "better" than anyone that works a job.

 

[Tenacity]

Just because some dude may make more doesn't make him "better". Might as well say a lotto winner is automatically "better" than anyone that works a job.

When it comes to money status, the guy is better.....period.

I know that's not what you guys want to hear, especially with the mentality of "we are all special" and "everybody gets a trophy".

The guy with a $1 million net worth v.s. the guy with $1,000 net worth has more OPTIONS in life. More Freedom. More opportunities. When it comes to money, he's better.

 

[9Volt]

When it comes to money status, the guy is better.....period.

I know that's not what you guys want to hear, especially with the mentality of "we are all special" and "everybody gets a trophy".

The guy with a $1 million net worth v.s. the guy with $1,000 net worth has more OPTIONS in life. More Freedom. More opportunities. When it comes to money, he's better.

Some of us date chicks that are not only better looking but at times better people than chicks that go after rich dudes. Doesn't mean all of them are in every case.

Do you actually personally know rich dudes? As in they know you too? Do you think these dudes get anyone they want? Do they run around telling everyone how much they make and how they are really "better" than anyone who doesn't make what they make?

So any future billionaires or geniuses that are devising the next best thing are in your mind "not as good" as those who have a million net worth now. You seem to have the mentality of the same "hypergamous" chicks you dudes love to rant about.

So now everyone that makes more money than you is "better" than you and everyone else who's a thug is better because all the chicks want them too.

You can't win Tenacity.

 

[BeExcellent]

How is this possible? If he's average and you're top 1%, that means he earns $35,000 a year and you earn $350,000 a year? Or maybe he earns $10,000 a year and you earn $100,000 a year?

Note that men couldn't care less what a woman earns. A woman with money isn't more attractive the way a man with money is, especially since they tend to turn into men and want some pretty young piece of as-s.

Getting the perspective of a woman who has a lot of money and earns more than 99% of the men she meets is misleading here. Naturally women with money don't care as much about men with money. But we need to know what percentile you are in.

Fine. He makes around 30K and I make upwards of 300K. Not counting equity in hard assets.

Net worth north of 1M.

It is true that men don't value wealth in a woman the same way women typically value it in a man. High value men absolutely value a woman who is successful in her own right. I know because high value men admire this in me quite bluntly. Here is why a high value man values a financially secure or successful woman:

1. She understands what it takes to be successful so she is prepared to support him in his efforts.
2. Her feedback as a successful person has merit and value that could benefit him.
3. She has contacts which may be useful for him socially and or professionally.
4. She can support herself and doesn't expect him to support her.
5. She garners respect from him in a natural way, through results and track record.

If she is also pretty with a hot body? Trust me she runs circles around the young beauties with only appearance to offer.

But only your high value men are going to appreciate these benefits, as they are indirect but very useful for an ambitious man.

In the Bible read the back half of Proverbs 31 "the wife of noble character". She is this sort of woman, whose value has been prized for millennia.

 

[Tenacity]

Do you actually personally know rich dudes? As in they know you too?

Yes.

Do you think these dudes get anyone they want?

Number one, I never said they did and number two, I honestly don't know how many women they are getting. But when it comes to MONEY, they are better than me.

Do they run around telling everyone how much they make and how they are really "better" than anyone who doesn't make what they make?

Not that I know of, I don't know anybody with money that does that as it attracts frivolous lawsuits, gold-diggers, and users. Nobody walks around with a billboard on them that has their net worth listed. But you can tell a successful guy usually from other things, such as where he stays, the car he drives, the company/position he works for, etc.

So any future billionaires or geniuses that are devising the next best thing are in your mind "not as good" as those who have a million net worth now.

Correct because, the "next best thing" isn't the "best thing" until it is fully executed. Everybody is working on the quote, unquote "next best thing".

Guru, Big Neil, and BeExcellent are better than me today when it comes to money. From what I understand, they are all millionaires based on net worth. But in 2022, I could have a net worth of $1.5 million and all three of them could do some insane business deal that bankrupts them or at least slashes their net worth down to $100,000. That would mean that in 2022, I would be better than them when it comes to money, because my $1.5 million net worth affords me opportunities and freedoms that THEY would no longer have complete access to.

Do you understand what I'm saying?

 

[BeExcellent]

The more wealth you have the better off you are to shut up about it. Quiet money is wise money.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Being broke isn't good, it's a weakness, a very BIG weakness,

The weakness is in thinking you need a bunch of material crap that you don't really need, which is the case for most people.

 

[9Volt]

Not that I know of, I don't know anybody with money that does that as it attracts frivolous lawsuits, gold-diggers, and users. Nobody walks around with a billboard on them that has their net worth listed. But you can tell a successful guy usually from other things, such as where he stays, the car he drives, the company/position he works for, etc.".

There's a few posters who walk around with Billboards announcing how much they supposedly make on here. Frivolous lawsuits, gold diggers, users etc come also when they suspect a person has or makes a lot of money or has a future product in development that they know will make them rich.

Correct because, the "next best thing" isn't the "best thing" until it is fully executed. Everybody is working on the quote, unquote "next best thing".

So Bill Gates etc weren't of any value till they had billions. No one is of value till they become worth more than others financially. Your family doesn't see you having more value than another person who makes more than you? I guess if I win the lotto I can claim I'm of more value than Nobel peace prize winners, scientists etc. because they don't have as much money as me. My vast amount of money "proves" it.

Guru, Big Neil, and BeExcellent are better than me today when it comes to money. From what I understand, they are all millionaires based on net worth. But in 2022, I could have a net worth of $1.5 million and all three of them could do some insane business deal that bankrupts them or at least slashes their net worth down to $100,000. That would mean that in 2022, I would be better than them when it comes to money, because my $1.5 million net worth affords me opportunities and freedoms that THEY would no longer have complete access to.

Do you understand what I'm saying?".

Because you read what anonymous posters told you on the net. People have robbed banks, scammed others etc. so because they have that money they are more "rich" than you.

 

[bigneil]

BeExcellent is hot and has money.

Why is money important? Because it means someone found your skills valuable and paid you for them. Thus, I respect a prostitute far more than a welfare mom. I especially respect the strippers who don't put out. Talk about resisting temptation. People offer them an easy life just to spread their legs every day, but then, every hot woman is in that situation.

There is a difference between "Ha ha, I have money" and "I make $xxx,xxx and here is how you can too".

Note: I'm not a millionaire. I just recently started making good money but have lived in average apartments for 23 years, or half my life.

 

[guru1000]

Gentlemen:

Wealth grows exponentially. The guy with one million liquid can turn that one million into ten much easier than $10,000 into $100,000. This is because more investment opportunities lie with greater liquidity. There are investment vehicles in private REITS, short sales, hard money lending or leveraging that are not open to lower liquidity levels.

I just lost a deal, which required more liquidity that I have now, which would conservatively produce a 230% return in 18 months (active participation) collateralized against real estate. Opportunities are replete among individuals with high liquidity.

Wealth accumulates as follows:

1 2 4 8 16 64 512 4096 32768 1048576

Notice as we progress, the numbers exponentialize. If you are young and invest properly, you are likely to get in the latter end of the curve above, due to compounding interest and exclusive lucrative investment opportunities available to higher liquidity levels.

Don’t discount money. Invest smart. Take it seriously. Start young.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

except that I'm also intelligent and ambitious and as such really appreciate a man who is successful in his own right because I like discussion that centers on topics of pursuit of ambition, strategy, etc. I also need to be able to respect that the man as a man and lots of factors figure into this.

Ambitious how? You still strike me as someone who wants a man to have better results than her own. But what those results are may vary depending on what he is ambitious in. For example, someone who is trying to build his own corporate empire is different than an Olympic gold-medalist. Both are ambitious, but the results are different because the goals are different. If say this man's ambition is to accumulate more and more wealth, then that would mean that he would have to have more money than you. Wouldn't that at least partially disregard points 1 and 4 on your list? And what about someone who has ambition like no other and pours his heart and soul into whatever it is he is striving to achieve, but he cannot for the life of him obtain any majorly positive results. What if him?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

BeExcellent is hot and has money.

Why is money important? Because it means someone found your skills valuable and paid you for them. Thus, I respect a prostitute far more than a welfare mom. I especially respect the strippers who don't put out. Talk about resisting temptation. People offer them an easy life just to spread their legs every day, but then, every hot woman is in that situation.

There is a difference between "Ha ha, I have money" and "I make $xxx,xxx and here is how you can too".

Note: I'm not a millionaire. I just recently started making good money but have lived in average apartments for 23 years, or half my life.

How is good looks a skill? A stripper is literally dancing around a pole and gets money for that. The only difference between her and a welfare mom is that one does it in public and the other does it in private. Funny thing is, the one who does it in public is doing so to exploit men for their money, whereas the one doing it in private isn't. A stripper is exploiting men far more so than a welfare recipient is.

And most prostitutes/gigolos are on drugs, you gotta be kidding me here.