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Die Hard

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Sometimes I feel like I have no game at all, lol. Bytches all do the same thing to me: Show huge interest at first, so I respond to that by starting to make moves on them, but then*FLASH* they run away from me...

When this stuff happens too often, I think to myself "fvck this, I'm not gonna make moves anymore" and just act aloof when girls come onto me and show huge interest. But this changes nothing, they just show interest and nothing else happens coz bytches don't make moves, they don't ask you out on a date or ask for your number, YOU have to do that coz you're the man! But when I do, they reject, ignore, pull away, make excuses etc.

I mean, these girls come onto me, dance with me and press their legs against my **** until it's hard as a rock, tell me they weren't feeling well but now that they're with me they feel good, blah blah, they look into my eyes like they want to get bent over, literally work their way through a crowd pushing people aside in order to walk up to me as fast as they can to grab a hold of me etc.

People around me also notice it, they see all this stuff happening and tell me "wow, she's totally into you, lucky bastard!" But I just fail to get the girl... I make a move, try to isolate her, try to get her number, whatever, but they reject my attempts, literally walk away from me with some excuse etc.

I always ask myself whether I'm just being too cautious and should be more agressive (like instead of trying to make conversation I should simply cut the bullsh!t, pull her in and go for the kiss) or whether it's the opposite and I should play it cool, make her chase me more, don't be too eager to capitalize on the interest she's showing.

I'm having so many of these experiences lately (throughout my whole life, actually) and it makes me wanna give up. I feel inclined to just take the interest girls show me as an ego boost and not expect anything else from it, let alone TRY anything with them. But when I do that, I see them staring at me from a distance with an expression on their face like "why isn't he making a move on me?!"
Just thinking out loud here... When I chase them, they run away from me and when I ignore them, they will chase me. It's like running away from your shadow, it keeps following you and sticks to you as you run away from it, but the moment you turn around and try to catch it, it starts running away from you and always stays out of reach no matter how fast you run.
Same thing...I am a master at ignoring girls and acting like I don't give a sh!t about them, and they will chase me HARD as a result. But when I decide to give them what they want and tell them we should meet up or just ask for their number *BAMMM* they reject or start to play extreme hard-to-get.

Give me some fvcking advice, brothers! I can't explain it away by assuming these particular girls all just happen to be attention wh0res, this sh!t is happening too often and the only constant is ME. So I'm doing something wrong... But what exactly?
 

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Where are you meeting them? If they're in a bar and they're intoxicated, then that may explain it.

If that's not the case, then it's time to do something different. How long do you wait to contact them after meeting them?
 

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... When I chase them, they run away from me and when I ignore them, they will chase me. It's like running away from your shadow, it keeps following you and sticks to you as you run away from it, but the moment you turn around and try to catch it, it starts running away from you and always stays out of reach no matter how fast you run.
Same thing...I am a master at ignoring girls and acting like I don't give a sh!t about them, and they will chase me HARD as a result. But when I decide to give them what they want and tell them we should meet up or just ask for their number *BAMMM* they reject or start to play extreme hard-to-get.

Give me some fvcking advice, brothers! I can't explain it away by assuming these particular girls all just happen to be attention wh0res, this sh!t is happening too often and the only constant is ME. So I'm doing something wrong... But what exactly?
Too much game playing.

The "game" is simple:
  • Engage;
  • Ask for her number;
  • Call/text & ask for the date;
  • On the date, sexually escalate as far as she allows;
  • Call/text for second date.
Any deviance from her from the above is lower interest. The who is chasing/ignoring and who is getting chased/being ignored is an academic frivolous exercise.
Die Hard said:
I mean, these girls come onto me, dance with me and press their legs against my **** until it's hard as a rock, tell me they weren't feeling well but now that they're with me they feel good, blah blah, they look into my eyes like they want to get bent over, literally work their way through a crowd pushing people aside in order to walk up to me as fast as they can to grab a hold of me etc.

People around me also notice it, they see all this stuff happening and tell me "wow, she's totally into you, lucky bastard!" But I just fail to get the girl... I make a move, try to isolate her, try to get her number, whatever, but they reject my attempts, literally walk away from me with some excuse etc.
Absent any unconsciously-awkward behavior from you, these girls are not interested. They are attention seeking. You are confusing their need for validation with genuine interest.

Try this academic exercise for self-awareness: Hit on a girl clearly 2-3+ pts. below your SMV, and observe if this same type of flake-ish behavior ensues
 
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I mean, these girls come onto me, dance with me and press their legs against my **** until it's hard as a rock, tell me they weren't feeling well but now that they're with me they feel good, blah blah, they look into my eyes like they want to get bent over, literally work their way through a crowd pushing people aside in order to walk up to me as fast as they can to grab a hold of me etc.
In my opinion, you are meeting them in the wrong place, and letting things escalate way too early. They get the thrill they want then run away. Also, night club girls tend to be immature, and are often only after attention.

Meet real women during the day. This takes the pressure of you during the night, where you can relax and just have some fun if you want to.
 

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The "game" is simple:
  • Engage;
  • Ask for her number;
  • Call/text & ask for the date;
  • On the date, sexually escalate as far as she allows;
  • Call/text for second date.
Aor ensues
This may work during the day, but at bars and clubs numbers are largely a waste of time.
 

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Too much game playing.
Try this academic exercise for self-awareness: Hit on a girl clearly 2-3+ pts. below your SMV, and observe if this same type of flake-ish behavior ensues
But try not to obviously hit on her. It will more than often set off an auto-reject reaction. Make it way less obvious; you sit near, ignore the women and talk to your mates, then say hello after 20 minutes so as not to appear rude. Near always they will respond warmly... go from there.
 
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