Why are DJ's so angry?

[9Volt]

There's some DJ's who get angry if you don't agree the models they photograph are absolute 9+'s.

There's other DJ's who get angry if you don't agree that the chicks they date off POF are "quality" while they claim to be in the top 1% of men in earning etc.

There's other DJ's who get angry because the chick who they treated as a FWB decides she's not looking for that and drops them.

Other DJ's get enraged over what chicks write on their POF profiles.

And other DJ's that get angry if you don't head nod in agreement with every one of their generalizations and "put some respek on their username" because they've been posting 24/7/365 for years instead of leaving their house and actually meeting chicks.

Is this what new posters have to look forward to in their journey to becoming a DJ and "maintaining the frame"?

 

[Infern0]

Because a lot of them are narcissists, not dj's

There was this guy here, Deesade, he was like on some next level narcissism shizz

there's a few around.

 

[JohnChops]

if you go back and read old posts, you will see it was never like that. The old crew had a sense of culture, happiness (read BBB's post "happy" in the DJB", and were well rounded. Seems like this new feminine guy culture has plagued a lot of new guys, and they either stay angry and never progress, or go full red pill and convince themselves women are all trash, stay online, never approach, never get laid, repeat cycle, which leads to bitterness.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

It's because it's so much easier to complain and argue than to actually seek out new solutions and actually implement them into your everyday life. Look at all the threads on the front page. Almost all of them are complaining about one thing or another. The threads that provide actual wisdom, threads that are actually meant to provide people with a real tip that could be useful, those ones get little to no discussion in them or you get *******s who just want bash the OP because they are so extremely close-minded to where they don't want to try to learn from them.

 

[Urbanyst]

A lot of guys who consider themselves DJ's are just desperate, fake and insecure.

The amount of approval seeking I see here is sad.

Its all about having status in the pack. But what's the point of status if you're not happy? I would rather just be happy with my life and my relationships. I don't need people to be impressed by me or think I'm awesome unless I'm at a job interview, auditioning for an acting role or running for office.

 

[wifehunter]

Because a lot of them are narcissists, not dj's

There was this guy here, Deesade, he was like on some next level narcissism shizz

there's a few around.

This^^^ 100%

James Bond get angry? Good joke!

 

[Konada]

They get angry because they didn't get the expected value out of their actions, i.e status validation.

What Poon King said is true, people who do things with an agenda get emotional when you tell them 'no', in essence is the litmus test for one's agenda or lack thereof.

A true DJ (I define this as a man of value) doesn't give a fvck what other people think if he knows by personal experience what he preaches is true. In his mind, whether you take his advice or not doesn't stop him from banging multiple loads of pu$$y, his life still goes on as usual.

There are many ways to skin a cat but not all will work for everyone. Be open-minded, find out what works best for you. I believe one has no right to criticize until he actually tries out a solution for himself and finds that it doesn't work for him. Reason why there's so much bashing here is because everyone lives in their own protected reality, and it scares them that their 'solutions' may not be the best out there. Which in essence, is still living in external validation as they are not actively seeking what's best for THEM but trying to prove to OTHERS that their method works the best.

 

[Von]

Because they don't get the result they want.... either they don't try, they do it wrong...

Yes, there is a lot of ego validation here... so if it happens here... can't think why they wouldn't apply it in the ''real life''

Been here for 1 year... alot of good stuff, good theory, good practical ideas and frame... however, you can quickly lose yourself in all the ''ego validation and member fights, and market shaming/blaming'' which is a big turn off.

There is Hope... for Anger is the first step towards ''understanding''

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

I would agree that this site has been a very negative place to be the last few months.

There is a sub-culture of people who are clearly embittered by women and probably subconsciously wish the blue pill Disney fairytale was still their reality. As is said, the red is a tough pill to swallow and there's no going back.

Bitterness, resentment and frustration is part of the process, and many don't seem to get past that stage. It seems the game now encorporates hating on women, as well trying to attract them for some, which I find extraordinary while counterproductive in equal measure.

I do understand the frustration when more experienced guys end up answering the same old dumb questions that can be figured out pretty easily.

As I've said before, the problem isnt women. Men and women will be the way they are. The biggest issue on the dating scene, probably forever is how men deal with emotions, both their own and those of the women thy associate with.

Indeed anger is one of those emotions. Until an individual learns to observe and accept their own mental state, they will not realise their full potential; be it with dating women, advice giving or otherwise.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

There is Hope...

No there isn't. If you are in your 30s or 40s or 50s, you should have at least SOME form of social skills to understand that not everyone is out to get you or trying to insult you. Their world does not revolve around you (not specifically you, just generally speaking), it revolves around themselves first. Some people are so egocentric they can't comprehend that.

 

[playa99]

This site wasn't like this many years ago... I believe the manosphere has evolved and it isn't for best.

Online dating is more prevalent now, this exposes men to a lot more women of lesser quality. Online dating also acts as a crutch for guys who don't have the guts to ask a woman out face to face.

I believe the manosphere has become a lot more comfortable blaming women for men's problems rather than placing the onus on themselves. I remember Gio Casanova saying something along "Women are cunning, shrewd, machiavellian creatures, love them anyway."

The process should be as follows:

• Join SS
• Read the material.
• Learn & accept where you went wrong.
• Apply the DJ principles to your life.
• Teach others what you have learned.
• Leave SS

As you read the material you learned key principles that laid the foundation of how to act with women. I.e. Don't act desperate, use C&F, Pull away, self-improvement etc.

You accept that you don't need a woman and apply the principles in your life around your personality.

The focus should be on yourself, not on the global market of women.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Where I reckon a lot go wrong us they are reactive. A man should be cognizant with what is going on, and integrate what's happening into his own centred self.

And so you can never identify simply with being something like a 'DJ'.... you are always many things and juggling various goals.

 

[logicallefty]

I always lol at these threads jabbing on SS. This isnt the Gangster Disciples or Chicago Mob.. If SS isnt what you think it should be anymore or no longer benefits you, you can leave at any time.

 

[skinnyguy]

Poon King is a great example of someone who was angry at the world and acted alpha just to make up for his own insecurities. That's why he got banned.

A true DJ is content with himself and doesn't seek validation through likes.

 

[Urbanyst]

Poon King is a great example of someone who was angry at the world and acted alpha just to make up for his own insecurities. That's why he got banned.

A true DJ is content with himself and doesn't seek validation through likes.

That guy's posts never came across as validation seeking. I'll give you angry.

If he wanted validation he probably would of followed he rules, avoided insulting people and not gotten himself banned.

 

[Tenacity]

Is this what new posters have to look forward to in their journey to becoming a DJ and "maintaining the frame"?

You want the truth from my perspective? Okay, I'll give it to you.

- Folks on this website are angry because we truly LACK control over our outcomes, situations, and relations with women. That's the truth.

- We ALL came to this website because we thought we had finally identified some techniques, tips, or secret "codes" to finally be able to implement control over an uncontrollable situation with women....and the truth is.....this website/The Manosphere does NOT offer said "secret codes".

So we are angry because despite "knowing the red pill", despite having read the DJ bible, despite having fixed our looks, worked on our inner game, put some money in our pocket, worked out to get a 6 pack, etc., etc.,....WE STILL WALK OUT OF THE DOOR and approach women without ANY TRUE estimate of how the situation will go with her. We don't know if we are getting rejected, accepted, a ONS, a FWB, a relationship, a sexual harassment lawsuit, slapped in the face, etc., etc.

WE DON'T KNOW. And we thought the Manosphere would give us the answers and it still hasn't. We thought becoming a "PUA/Don Juan/MGTOW" would give us the answers, and it still hasn't.

 

[9Volt]

You want the truth from my perspective? Okay, I'll give it to you.

- Folks on this website are angry because we truly LACK control over our outcomes, situations, and relations with women. That's the truth.

- We ALL came to this website because we thought we had finally identified some techniques, tips, or secret "codes" to finally be able to implement control over an uncontrollable situation with women....and the truth is.....this website/The Manosphere does NOT offer said "secret codes".

So we are angry because despite "knowing the red pill", despite having read the DJ bible, despite having fixed our looks, worked on our inner game, put some money in our pocket, worked out to get a 6 pack, etc., etc.,....WE STILL WALK OUT OF THE DOOR and approach women without ANY TRUE estimate of how the situation will go with her. We don't know if we are getting rejected, accepted, a ONS, a FWB, a relationship, a sexual harassment lawsuit, slapped in the face, etc., etc.

WE DON'T KNOW. And we thought the Manosphere would give us the answers and it still hasn't. We thought becoming a "PUA/Don Juan/MGTOW" would give us the answers, and it still hasn't.

That's life. There's no magic pill, DJ Wizard of Oz genie to grant you, I or anyone everything and anything we want always.

Be your best self. If we always got everything and anything every time we wanted it life would be no challenge and boring. We'd be even less fulfilled as we could do anything and always get our way.

 

[Tenacity]

That's life. There's no magic pill,

Lol I know, but you wanted to know why a lot of these guys are angry and I wanted to give you the truth. The anger's foundation is from a lack of control. The entire purpose of the Manosphere/DJ Bible is to try to implement controls onto an uncontrollable process.

So guys come here to report how out of control the situations are, how confused they are over it, and how they don't know what the fvck to do.

The Manosphere then comes together to try and provide "controls". The truth is, the Manosphere ultimately fails in providing said "controls", but instead what the Manosphere ends up doing is just giving the guy a little bit of HOPE while he goes back out there to DEAL with the uncontrollable process.

 

[9Volt]

Lol I know, but you wanted to know why a lot of these guys are angry and I wanted to give you the truth. The anger's foundation is from a lack of control. The entire purpose of the Manosphere/DJ Bible is to try to implement controls onto an uncontrollable process.

So guys come here to report how out of control the situations are, how confused they are over it, and how they don't know what the fvck to do.

The Manosphere then comes together to try and provide "controls". The truth is, the Manosphere ultimately fails in providing said "controls", but instead what the Manosphere ends up doing is just giving the guy a little bit of HOPE while he goes back out there to DEAL with the uncontrollable process.

I look at it with chicks like with friends. I don't need "friends" I have to put an act on with in hopes they like me. Same with control. I ain't trying to control my friends nor them me.

Same way with chicks. they either like being around me and vice versa or they don't. I ain't got time for a soft shoeing act or steel cage control. I got better shyt to do and we're both free to go our own ways.

easy work.

 

[BeExcellent]

In a word: Disillusionment