Girl has a boyfriend

[wonderer]

Im taking a girl out for drinks for the second time tomorrow, just me and her. I day gamed her in the street, and at the number close she said she had a boyfriend, I said does he let you out, she said he does, I got her number.

I took her out for drinks, she asked if she should be bringing people along or if it would just be us, I said just us, she said sweet! When we were out I kinod as much as I could, it went down well, she kino'd me back, I didnt go for the kiss close.

She mentioned the bf twice in passing, once when I asked where her bracelet was from, and once when she said she wanted to get a tattoo on her bum, I said she should get my first name on one cheek and surname on the other, she said he bf wouldnt be happy!

After I took her out she was the first to text a couple of days later, Ive asked her out again and shes agreed for tomorrow, I said she needs to be on innocent behavior when shes out with me and shes said ooo shed try, I havent responded and am leaving it to the date.

Im wondering if I should try and turn the texts sexual? She must know my intent otherwise she wouldnt have mentioned the bf on the day game approach. Do I go for the kiss close tomorrow? I am so bad at kiss closing on dates as it it. Any advise on situation is welcomed and any advise on going for this kiss too!

 

[Glassguy]

This chick is looking for fun. I would open the texting up to being sexual and see how she responds. She'll either run with it or shut it down. If she takes the bait and SHE acts like she's all about it, go with it and kiss her early when you meet. Act like the bf doesn't exist. She's looking for someone to monkey branch to and that relationship is already dead.

Her: how are you doing today
You: ironically I was thinking about that cute little @ss of yours.
Her: you were?
You: yeah.....I should probably not tell you exactly what I was thinking about it......

Then see how she responds.

 

[fastlife]

Im wondering if I should try and turn the texts sexual?

No. She's already meeting up--sexualizing texts adds additional, unnecessary risk. A lot of girls will cheat on their boyfriend; but if you make them feel like they're 'cheating,' they're gone. She knows what's up, but she has enough plausible deniability to feed her hamster, which is why she's not flaking on you. Keep it that way.

She must know my intent otherwise she wouldnt have mentioned the bf on the day game approach.

Exactly. She knows what's up. Right now, to her, you seem like the guy who knows what's up, too. Keep it that way. No need to overthink it--This kind of thing happens to you all the time; you have girls waiting on your porch every morning; you have girls flirt with you in front of their boyfriends, and you're so high value, the boyfriends don't even feel upset about it--in fact they're happy that they have second-hand association with such a high value man.

I mean, It's all soooo obvious, why would you even need to verbalize it? The sky's blue, right? You wouldn't text her anything about the sky. Of course she want you, every girl does.

(The italics is what you're mental programming/frame should look like. It doesn't matter that you're not that guy yet--Borrow some abundance from your future; you know you're taking right action to be that guy eventually--so it's OK to embody that mindset in the present tense.)

Do I go for the kiss close tomorrow? I am so bad at kiss closing on dates as it it. Any advise on situation is welcomed and any advise on going for this kiss too![/QUOTE]

No. Kissing means exactly--nothing. For most guys it's validation-seeking. Does she like meee? Well, she kissed me--and she flaked on every date after that--but I got the kiss and I didn't get rejected because I didn't try to bring her home!!

It's easier to get a girl back to your house--which is what you should be trying to do anyway (figure out something appealing you have that you can show her and mention it over drinks)--BEFORE you kiss her.

Other things to consider: Make sure you don't lead her on if you don't want a potential relationship with her (and, for the record, it probably ain't a good idea--you're progressing too much for that). Disqualify yourself from being a replacement boyfriend: "Oh, I'd be a terrible boyfriend. Forget all our anniversaries and leave you home alone on a Friday night." DON'T GET CLINGY!!! She might really like her boyfriend and not plan on breaking up with him, so don't force her into an uncomfortable decision.

If she doesn't already know your full name, don't tell her. Tell her to save your number in her phone under 'Ashley.' Only text her during daylight hours or when you know she's probably not with her BF. Don't text her your address--always meet up somewhere else and drive her there, and talk while you're pulling into your neighborhood so she's too distracted to make note of where you live. Just general safety precautions in case her boyfriend is a psycho.

As far as the morality aspect, that's something you need to decide for yourself. Personally, I think it's useful for guys to see exactly how this type of thing works--and how prevalent it is--so that they have a more realistic view of the world/hypergamy. Personally, I feel like a relationship is a contract between two people and, as a third party, I have not obligation towards that contract if one or both parties is unwilling to uphold it (unless I know the guy!). Personally, I've found that a lot of attractive girls have boyfriends, even if it's just a temporary showroom boyfriend; again, if she doesn't honor her commitment, that's on her. But it's something you have to decide for yourself.

 

[wonderer]

What is the goal here? If it is sex....then don't be mad when someone does this to you with your GF.

If it is about a relationship? Well, you know what kind of a girl she is now.......just a matter of time until "you are the boyfriend she cheats on " with a stranger.

But ........do what you like. Personally, I would delete the number

The goal is sex. My ex gf slept with someone else while she was with me. I dont care. Too me unless someones married its fair game, its human biology to find the best mate that you can for your offspring. SHE's the one in the relationship, not me, she can say no. Will report back tomorrow.

 

[wonderer]

This chick is looking for fun. I would open the texting up to being sexual and see how she responds. She'll either run with it or shut it down. If she takes the bait and SHE acts like she's all about it, go with it and kiss her early when you meet. Act like the bf doesn't exist. She's looking for someone to monkey branch to and that relationship is already dead.

Her: how are you doing today
You: ironically I was thinking about that cute little @ss of yours.
Her: you were?
You: yeah.....I should probably not tell you exactly what I was thinking about it......

Then see how she responds.

Thinking about it again - if I go sexual now it could scare her off, too much for her to think about in between dates, she doesnt want to think like shes doing anything wrong and that its all my fault. If she wasnt in a relationship I would have, the response from her was too easy to not turn sexual.

 

[Glassguy]

Thinking about it again - if I go sexual now it could scare her off, too much for her to think about in between dates, she doesnt want to think like shes doing anything wrong and that its all my fault. If she wasnt in a relationship I would have, the response from her was too easy to not turn sexual.

Why would you treat her differently than any other chicks, especially since she has a bf?

 

[NSX-R]

I currently fck a woman with a boyfriend 2-3 times per week. I don't know why but every time i fck her, her bf calls her in the middle of the act .
The chick is interested at you ,she's propably bored of her bf and she wants some fun but don't expect from her to leave her bf for you. Do fck her but don't go any further because you will get nothing. As i said , she's just doing it for entertainment reasons and nothing more.

Be fast though and don't go so slow. You can't make her your gf, you don't care about her character but her body. She thinks the same as well.
Limit your texting only to set the time and place of the date. That's a rule of a dj. Be aggresive and show your intentions but don't vocalize them.

For example , talk about the weather and at the same time kino her. Keep on discussing about irrelevant stuff and do your move , grab her chin and kiss her. She will not have time to think about it and the topic will keep her mind away from overthinking it or thinking why she should not cheating her bf .

Be subtly aggresive.

 

[wonderer]

Forgot to update here but girl flaked couple of days ago when we were supposed to go out again, says she has a mad hang-over and is on a 24 hour flight to nz tomorrow, she has mentioned this before, her relationship with her bf must really be dead - was going to meet up with me instead of seeing him before she headed off?

She said lets go on a mad one when she gets back, puts a :/ face for being away for 2 weeks. Im gunna ask her to hit me up when she's back, we both might have forgotten each other by then, who cares though, should I try and keep up interaction sparingly while shes away? Ive learned through her that I really need to work on my kiss closing, all the kino escalation ladder steps had passed.

I am approaching a lot of girls daily, I dont care too much about this one, starting to see how easy it is to pick up new girls (Im new to day game), would still like to keep this one on the hook though.

 

[Billtx49]

I currently fck a woman with a boyfriend 2-3 times per week. I don't know why but every time i fck her, her bf calls her in the middle of the act .
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He's probably starting to get a clue about what's happening.

 

[NSX-R]

He's probably starting to get a clue about what's happening.

I know. I've been swimming into dangerous waters for too long but sex with this woman is unbelievable. I'll try to eject sooner or later.

 

[Billtx49]

I know. I've been swimming into dangerous waters for too long but sex with this woman is unbelievable. I'll try to eject sooner or later.

Think with the big head. Not saying it will happen, but men have been killed or maimed under the same circumstances. It all depends on the other guy and his mindset. Something you can not control…

 

[NSX-R]

Think with the big head. Not saying it will happen, but men have been killed or maimed under the same circumstances. It all depends on the other guy and his mindset. Something you can not control…

Yeah, you are absolutely right. Half an hour ago i finished it and told her it's too dangerous to keep on doing this and told her if she ends it with her bf , then we might fck again. I have a very high status in my area and it's very fragile.

Hopefully for me i have another plate which she's the main for some months now.

 

[Billtx49]

Great act of self preservation there