The Decay of Masculinity

[Roober]

So, I just happened onto this guy, and I am sure there is many more like it if you were to look, but he is pretty entertaining and debates very well. It is also hilarious because he is a homosexual. I recently finished "The Rational Male" and it certainly follows the same suit for the problems with gender dynamics.

Feminism is cancer!

What began as an arguable goal for equality has since turned into a public shaming and beating of men, especially men that express their natural masculinity. It is shameful to even speak of such things with other people without being labeled as "chauvinist", "mysoginist", or any of the other nasty blurbs men could be succumbed to in today's society. This victimization of 50% of our population has become so much of the society-accepted female imperative (The Rational Male), the tables have turned immensely; the script has been reversed. Women caused this problem, and they can't even figure out what they want any more...

For example, the myth of "the gender wage gap"
-60% of college graduates are women
-On average, women in their 30's make more than men
-Against women, men struggle to get jobs because companies are desperate to get more women in their companies
-Food for thought... if women were actually paid less, why wouldn't companies hire women to save their bottom line?

The result?
Men are de-masculinated to the point of quitting, drug use, stay at home dads, etc. The blue pill mentality, nurtured by the feminine imperative, has become so deeply ingrained in our society that expression of masculinity is subdued with derogatory titles. Most of the "plugged in" (I would not consider myself unplugged yet) men can't even see the reality if it slapped them in the face.

What can we do about something that you can't talk about? cannot share? and cannot express to the rest of the world?

We work on ourselves, take the red pill, and battle against the feminine imperative that gains strength every day towards the complete dominance over masculinity. If one of your friends or famly members succumbs to defeat, we can offer him the choice, give him the tools, and ask him the question...

Would you like the red pill or the blue pill?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

My younger sister was turning into a feminazi, she even screamed once that women were payed less (screamed because me and my brother were purposefully saying and doing sh!t just to piss her off hahaha). Well my dad owns his own business. He was there when she screamed at us, and when she said that women get paid less than men, he laughed and said how it wasn't true because all of his female employees either make the same or more than his male employees. That shut her up.

I showed her Milo and she is the type of girl who likes those gay guys who give off that 'I'm FABULOUS!' vibe and now she isn't a radical feminazi anymore. My older sister is the opposite. She HATES feminists and think they're so annoying. She's like "oh my gosh like shut up women are NOT oppressed, like we can do whatever we want if we choose to, but these fat ugly b!tches don't want to do sh!t". Her and my younger sister are pretty close so I guess she rubbed off her as well.

 

[Roober]

My younger sister was turning into a feminazi, she even screamed once that women were payed less (screamed because me and my brother were purposefully saying and doing sh!t just to piss her off hahaha). Well my dad owns his own business. He was there when she screamed at us, and when she said that women get paid less than men, he laughed and said how it wasn't true because all of his female employees either make the same or more than his male employees. That shut her up.

I showed her Milo and she is the type of girl who likes those gay guys who give off that 'I'm FABULOUS!' vibe and now she isn't a radical feminazi anymore. My older sister is the opposite. She HATES feminists and think they're so annoying. She's like "oh my gosh like shut up women are NOT oppressed, like we can do whatever we want if we choose to, but these fat ugly b!tches don't want to do sh!t". Her and my younger sister are pretty close so I guess she rubbed off her as well.

The real problem with feminists is not the radicals, but how their philosophies have affected everyone. The raw strength of feminism is the social conditioning of the entire population away from masculinity, theeby allowing women to pick and choose which aspects they wish to incorporate into their own lives. I would agree that there are behaviors that need to stop from men, but you cannot use those are your reasons for attacking the whole male population. Look at at our society, and you see constants shifts away from the alpha male...

-Women believe they should be chased and refuse to pursue
-"Dad bods" becoming an attractive trait
-Men carrying babies in carriers - there is nothing attractive about that
-More men giving up on careers and staying home with the family
-Significant increase in watching sports - to me, a mindless male centered activity, it lets "men feel like men"
-Pandering and pursuing uninterested women - I see this with lots of men in the Bay Area
-A woman's hypergamy accepted as "what did I do wrong?" by the man
and the list goes on...

Eesh! I feel like I am beginning to get a bit jaded about the whole thing...

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

The real problem with feminists is not the radicals, but how their philosophies have affected everyone. The raw strength of feminism is the social conditioning of the entire population away from masculinity, theeby allowing women to pick and choose which aspects they wish to incorporate into their own lives. I would agree that there are behaviors that need to stop from men, but you cannot use those are your reasons for attacking the whole male population. Look at at our society, and you see constants shifts away from the alpha male...

-Women believe they should be chased and refuse to pursue
-"Dad bods" becoming an attractive trait
-Men carrying babies in carriers - there is nothing attractive about that
-More men giving up on careers and staying home with the family
-Significant increase in watching sports - to me, a mindless male centered activity, it lets "men feel like men"
-Pandering and pursuing uninterested women - I see this with lots of men in the Bay Area
-A woman's hypergamy accepted as "what did I do wrong?" by the man
and the list goes on...

Eesh! I feel like I am beginning to get a bit jaded about the whole thing...

I explained why this is in my last thread. There is nothing you can do about it unless you literally kill the richest people in the world and all their kids, and restructure the US government. George Soros for example is the biggest funder of the Black Lives Matter movement, and also funds organizations against it as well. These movements are just using people as pawns meant for their own personal entertainment and for their own agenda to keep people unaware of other more important issues at hand. That's what feminism was for as well. I am fairly certain the the LGBT movement was the same.

The only way to win completely is to be able to activate a woman's core nature.

 

[bigneil]

Milo is the World's Greatest Gay Man, and as fast as he is rising, someday we might drop the Gay qualifier.

 

[bigneil]

At a local pizzeria run by evil, chunky women who supported Hillary to the point of chasing me out of the restaurant (they should have been fired), I went back twice: once dressed as Donald Trump on Halloween (days before he won), and once with an HB9.9 after Trump won (they had seen photos of her and had steam coming out their ears). Today I popped in to find the place empty and the fat girls scurrying into the back room, so I left it empty. Antagonizing these shameless welfare parasites is my greatest joy.

 

[Ratiocinative]

To be fair, feminists hate traditional women as much as they do traditional men, it just doesn't get as much attention because it exposes their hypocrisy and absurdity. They ostracize and attack women who aren't "real" women just like attack blacks when they aren't "real" blacks.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

To be fair, feminists hate traditional women as much as they do traditional men, it just doesn't get as much attention because it exposes their hypocrisy and absurdity. They ostracize and attack women who aren't "real" women just like attack blacks when they aren't "real" blacks.

Seconded. I noticed this myself, they attack not ONLY masculinity, but femininity too. And their names have the base word of 'feminine' in there. Ridiculous. They only want the perks that being a guy gives you, they don't want to have to handle any of the responsibilities of actually being a man though.

Those same women who say that they want equal treatment are the same exact women who will tell you that women "deserve respect" by having the man pay the bill for her. The same woman who says that she doesn't need a man to hold open a door for her is the same woman who will say that men should respect women and hold the door open for her if he doesn't. It is so stupid. Good thing I don't live in SoCal, I'd have gotten into a few fights by now haha

 

[Roober]

Interesting read...

The article highlights women and the increases they have encountered in suicide rates. Anyone with half a brain can see what is really going on... the highest demographic of women (45-64) is just below 10 suicides per 100,000. Look at the male side, the only one BELOW 10 in 100,000 is 10-14 year olds. Yet, the article highlights only the women's struggles. Man, we are fvcked!

U.S. Suicide Rate Surges to a 30-Year High

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Interesting read...

The article highlights women and the increases they have encountered in suicide rates. Anyone with half a brain can see what is really going on... the highest demographic of women (45-64) is just below 10 suicides per 100,000. Look at the male side, the only one BELOW 10 in 100,000 is 10-14 year olds. Yet, the article highlights only the women's struggles. Man, we are fvcked!

U.S. Suicide Rate Surges to a 30-Year High

That's because men are 4 times more likely to actually commit suicide when they say they are going to. What does this mean? Women are all talk and attention wh0res.

 

[Atom Smasher]

We work on ourselves, take the red pill, and battle against the feminine imperative that gains strength every day towards the complete dominance over masculinity.

Roober, this is not directed to you, but rather something to think about for all of us...

The question is, do you battle against feminism only here on the forum, or only in our thoughts, or do you proactively take the battle to the streets? Do you actively refute feminism in your day-to-day when these ideas pop up? Do you make instructive comments on other websites?

Doing battle must be taken outside of the theoretical and into the theatre of war. I am becoming increasingly convinced that all men should be actively rejecting women whom they find find distasteful, and calmly challenging feminism in a detached, amused way.

SS is the place where we learn strategy and tactics. They are meant to be used in a practical sense.

Men, we need to think in terms of claiming our power and authority.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Feminism is no different from any other form of political propaganda. Whether it's feminism, fascism, communism, socialism or anything else that ends with an "ism", the average person can be conditioned to accept it as the truth.

Feminism took over society through creeping, incremental changes. There was no feminist uprising or civil war between feminists and non-feminists. Rather, feminists took over because men decided that it was too much hassle to oppose them and that it was easier to capitulate. It's like the guy who is sick of arguing with his wife and let's her have her way....except on a national level.

 

[JohnChops]

Focus on your carrerr
Be a Savage
Lift heavy ass ****
Less complaining, more doing
No ****ing skinny jeans.
Work your craft.

 

[Roober]

Roober, this is not directed to you, but rather something to think about for all of us...

The question is, do you battle against feminism only here on the forum, or only in our thoughts, or do you proactively take the battle to the streets? Do you actively refute feminism in your day-to-day when these ideas pop up? Do you make instructive comments on other websites?

Doing battle must be taken outside of the theoretical and into the theatre of war. I am becoming increasingly convinced that all men should be actively rejecting women whom they find find distasteful, and calmly challenging feminism in a detached, amused way.

SS is the place where we learn strategy and tactics. They are meant to be used in a practical sense.

Men, we need to think in terms of claiming our power and authority.

Agreed 100%.

I am fairly new to all of this, about 3 months in to what I am considering an awakening to the psychology of gender dynamics. I have always felt a little bit that women felt this sense of entitlement and tended to walk all over men in general, while they take the things they like from feminism, but ignore their true desires in the decline of masculinity. Before now, I accepted this is the way of the world...

Taking this to the streets has proven to be somewhat... difficult?

For example, during a drunken night with my female cousin, we ended up at her house with some dude from the bar, and I got teamed up on when I stated that "women want a dominant man to control them". I tend to be very direct in my communications when I feel like I can't get through. They focused on the word "control" and we ran in circles for an hour or so. It was quite entertaining (and sad) to watch them get worked up; a man and a woman who have both accepted the social norms.

Another example, my buddy (friend A) has been married for 9 years and has had sex 8 times in the last 5 years... pathetic. Went to shoot pool with another buddy (friend B). Friend B was telling him "you need to date more", "take care of her", and all the normal BS we are fed from the feminine imperative. I told him... "you want to get laid? Hit the gym, get in shape (he is about 30 lbs overweight), start talking to more women, be friendly, focus on making yourself a better man, put one foot on the threshold of the door. The competition will run fierce in your wife and she will admire you for it" among other things... they both looked at me like I had lost my fvcking mind...

The results from feminism, and I am not talking about the fat and ugly radicals, is so deeply ingrained in society, it will certainly be an uphill battle. Once I start approaching more women, and getting good results, it will be hard not to listen. The biggest issue is that for every guy on here, there is probably 10,000 men and women on the other side.

Fortunately for me, I am a persistent mother fvcker...

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Agreed 100%.

I am fairly new to all of this, about 3 months in to what I am considering an awakening to the psychology of gender dynamics. I have always felt a little bit that women felt this sense of entitlement and tended to walk all over men in general, while they take the things they like from feminism, but ignore their true desires in the decline of masculinity. Before now, I accepted this is the way of the world...

Taking this to the streets has proven to be somewhat... difficult?

For example, during a drunken night with my female cousin, we ended up at her house with some dude from the bar, and I got teamed up on when I stated that "women want a dominant man to control them". I tend to be very direct in my communications when I feel like I can't get through. They focused on the word "control" and we ran in circles for an hour or so. It was quite entertaining (and sad) to watch them get worked up; a man and a woman who have both accepted the social norms.

Another example, my buddy (friend A) has been married for 9 years and has had sex 8 times in the last 5 years... pathetic. Went to shoot pool with another buddy (friend B). Friend B was telling him "you need to date more", "take care of her", and all the normal BS we are fed from the feminine imperative. I told him... "you want to get laid? Hit the gym, get in shape (he is about 30 lbs overweight), start talking to more women, be friendly, focus on making yourself a better man, put one foot on the threshold of the door. The competition will run fierce in your wife and she will admire you for it" among other things... they both looked at me like I had lost my fvcking mind...

The results from feminism, and I am not talking about the fat and ugly radicals, is so deeply ingrained in society, it will certainly be an uphill battle. Once I start approaching more women, and getting good results, it will be hard not to listen. The biggest issue is that for every guy on here, there is probably 10,000 men and women on the other side.

Fortunately for me, I am a persistent mother fvcker...

I find it hard to reach others as well. Being extremely direct doesn't work well right now so I figured I need to be more subtle. For example, instead of saying how women want a dominant man to control them, say that women find stronger men with leader personalities more attractive. Instead of saying how he needed to hit the gym, get in shape, start talking to more women, etc. because his wife will get competitive, say that he can't make her like him by focusing on her and that he should focus on himself more by doing (the things you said) because he will just become a more attractive man all around at that point and wouldn't need to try to make her like him more by having to do all that extra stuff. Then tell him that you can't be a pushover with her because no one respects a pushover and you cannot love someone you don't respect.

You need to translate everything we learn her into real societal values. Saying that you shouldn't give a crap about women and only about yourself so that women chase you doesn't fly in society. You will get shamed into oblivion. So you tell them that with how the media portrays love, everyone is trying to find the right person, but no one is trying to actually be the right person; you took it upon yourself to try and be that right guy for the right girl and that hopefully that right girl will come find you. Gotta be able to translate.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Feminism is no different from any other form of political propaganda. Whether it's feminism, fascism, communism, socialism or anything else that ends with an "ism", the average person can be conditioned to accept it as the truth.

Feminism took over society through creeping, incremental changes. There was no feminist uprising or civil war between feminists and non-feminists. Rather, feminists took over because men decided that it was too much hassle to oppose them and that it was easier to capitulate. It's like the guy who is sick of arguing with his wife and let's her have her way....except on a national level.

It is very dangerous when the sexes pit themselves against each other. Men largely capitulated to women because they lacked the moral backbone where the head exercised restraint over desire. There will be no 'restoration' until men once again learn to control their desires. That way they can select the more feminine. Then the more ideologically driven women will be forced to change their ways... in so far as they want a relationship with a man.

 

[Chamber36]

There is a time when I was quite worked up about feminists. Felt as though I couldn't express myself or be myself because of women's expectations.

Now I've put on some more mass and have become a little bit more of a man. So I just grab asses, pat asses, slap asses, whatever. Squeeze asses. That's the only real response to feminism. A firm little pat on the ass that everything is fine and for htem to go scurry on back to their female friends and leave men to do their work. It's just antagonism what they do so it should just be ignored. It's most likely being funded by the likes of George Soros etc too, in case you're wondering as to the top-down structure of it.

So here is a recent dismantling of the feminist argument for you:

https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=c_s1WQX53sI

 

[Roober]

I find it hard to reach others as well. Being extremely direct doesn't work well right now so I figured I need to be more subtle. For example, instead of saying how women want a dominant man to control them, say that women find stronger men with leader personalities more attractive. Instead of saying how he needed to hit the gym, get in shape, start talking to more women, etc. because his wife will get competitive, say that he can't make her like him by focusing on her and that he should focus on himself more by doing (the things you said) because he will just become a more attractive man all around at that point and wouldn't need to try to make her like him more by having to do all that extra stuff. Then tell him that you can't be a pushover with her because no one respects a pushover and you cannot love someone you don't respect.

You need to translate everything we learn her into real societal values. Saying that you shouldn't give a crap about women and only about yourself so that women chase you doesn't fly in society. You will get shamed into oblivion. So you tell them that with how the media portrays love, everyone is trying to find the right person, but no one is trying to actually be the right person; you took it upon yourself to try and be that right guy for the right girl and that hopefully that right girl will come find you. Gotta be able to translate.

Good stuff! My communication skills do need some work. =)

 

[Aspiring Don Juan]

Anyone with an opposing view on Feminism, or any other feminist issue for that matter, gets immediately shut down for being a "sexist," and for inciting violence using hate speech. Free speech is only matters when they're the ones using it. But to tell you guys the truth, arguing about what works and what doesn't work to the ears of a feminist will NEVER work, because they function on emotions. They don't care about actual justice and what is right, they just fret over what FEELS right. It's this whole emotional based logic that propels the feminist movement. And you also see a lot of guys who are perceived as "beta" fall into this because they lack the capacity to make logic-based decisions. It's quite sad really.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Anyone with an opposing view on Feminism, or any other feminist issue for that matter, gets immediately shut down for being a "sexist," and for inciting violence using hate speech. Free speech is only matters when they're the ones using it. But to tell you guys the truth, arguing about what works and what doesn't work to the ears of a feminist will NEVER work, because they function on emotions. They don't care about actual justice and what is right, they just fret over what FEELS right. It's this whole emotional based logic that propels the feminist movement. And you also see a lot of guys who are perceived as "beta" fall into this because they lack the capacity to make logic-based decisions. It's quite sad really.

True, but women conform to social norms and value what others expect them to value. You need to be able to translate your message into a way that they can understand, aka in a way that mirrors society's values. All you are doing is manipulating what society values in a way that benefits yourself. Read my other post above on how to do this. Social norms have more of an effect on a woman than her emotions do. That's why public shaming is a woman's biggest fear.