Time to Kill Disney. ALL Women are Prostitutes

[El Payaso]

Attack the argument not the poster.

I say this all the time: PROVE ME WRONG.

If what I'm posting is offensive or upsetting.. then explain why its false. Otherwise shut your trap.

Any post b!tching about how "Poog King is so terrible" just makes you look like a weak faggot white knight with no argument.



Sex with an agenda = Prostitution.

Men have sex for pleasure and reproduction. These reasons are acceptable for women too. But once sex is used to gain resources, attention, commitment, etc. it becomes prostitution.

Sex for payment = prostitution.

No need to redefine a word.

 

[sazc]

Help guide these men in the right direction, don't condescendingly belittle them because they choose to head in a direction contradictory to your opinons/facts.

This

 

[sazc]

You're not seriously implying that a women love their partners like that...

some women do. some females are ride or die. some females believe in family, believe in supporting their husbands 100% some females will love you unconditionally

 

[sazc]

Basic common sense says otherwise. Even love itself is a condition. For a mother, the only condition is your status as her child.

I'd like to be someone's ride or die one day

 

[sazc]

Shouldn't you have been by now? Maybe your list of CONDITIONS makes it difficult to find someone

Lol, you gonna call me a beta lesbian now?

I went into my marriage 'ride or die' and when the going got tough, he refused to put the work in. I'm still hopeful that I can find that, tho. It takes time with someone to first trust them enough, then watch the relationship unfold so you can get a sense if this is someone who would be a ride or die. The one thing I do understand - if you want that, you have to be that. So I am trying to be that, unconditionally, no expectations. If it doesn't work out, at leat I know I tried hard. And I'll have no regrets

 

[sazc]

What makes you say that?

I've seen it, more than once

 

[sazc]

I've seen spouses care for each other through sickness too. I wouldn't call that "unconditional love". I would call that an emotional investment and connection more valuable than the issues faced.

Emotional connections can also fade, or die.

I certainly wouldn't call it "unconditional".

Then I guess we agree to disagree

 

[TheProspect]

Then I guess we agree to disagree

Everything is impermanent and subject to change. Especially emotions.

 

[sazc]

What does this mean? He broke one of the conditions so it wasn't ride or die anymore?

My ex was someone who has a BPD mother and had numerous 'encounters' with his scoutmaster when he was 12. In order to respond to that question, I would have to speak to this a bit. I'd like to respect his privacy on the matter, so I respectfully decline to answer. I tried really hard to save my marriage. In the end he told me he didn't want to try because he didn't want to make the effort only to possibly fail. It was all very sad.

 

[Poon King]

It would benefit all men to understand how women work and use that awareness to their advantage... whether they intend to spin plates, or get into a LTR on their terms,or both. To each their own. I would
argue every man who's been enlightened (understands the reality of women) can make a decision that he feels works best for him at that time. He's not wrong because someone disagrees (even rationally) with his personal preference and at the end of the day he's entirely accountable to the results of those choices. NO ONE should feel obligated to adopt a narrow perspective, whether it's "logical" or not. I'm not religious by any means but the last thing I would do is disparage someone's opinion/argument because it didn't fit "logic" and "reality". Objectivenes is irrelevant. Some men are, and always will be, ignorant due to a lack of insight and an open mind. Help guide these men in the right direction, don't condescendingly belittle them because they choose to head in a direction contradictory to your opinons/facts.

No kid gloves for grown men (or women) from me.

If people are "offended" then they can cry and call your mommy. I post my opinions as they are. The intention is to give men maximum leverage in life. These are bits of wisdom men can choose to use or discard. There is power in knowing your position.. even if your position is being a faggot. If you know you are a low level man.. at least you are harder to fool and manipulate than if you are delusional enough to think you are a high level man. Knowledge is always powerful regardless of where you stand in life.

No man is losing anything by being called a faggot on an Internet forum. If that insult saves him from giving alimony, cash prizes and expensive consumer goods to some ungrateful woman after no fault divorce in a few years.. then I've done good.

Also.. if being called a name is all it takes to send someone into an emotional death spiral then they need a therapist more than they need "Poon King's guidance".

I only belittle those who provide emotional arguments against logical claims.

 

[Poon King]

I follow your logic, you just have this ongoing manner in which you proclaim ideas using the most inflammatory terms. Terms that are offensive and are guaranteed to incite.

You know why? Because emotions motivate action, thought, introspection, etc.

If I post bland, boring, nerdy sh!t.. people will just shrug and move on without much thought. Kind of like watching commercial on TV. You are half listening, half ignoring it.

I disagree with you about @skinnyguy . I dont know him personally but I would make the sweeping generalization that, if you create an account on this forum, your goal is to understand/get better at putting your needs first. Just because someone has an opposing viewpoint, logically that doesn't place them into any particular category, much less a category that you assign. They just happen to have a different or opposing viewpoint. It's really that simple.

@skinnyguy went straight into "attack mode" in response to my OP.

He did not provide an argument. He did not address the topic. He just went into a b!tchfest about how "Poon King is terrible".

That's not how you start a "conversation". Why don't you lecture him instead of "liking" his post? See how you're a hypocrite?

 

[PeasantPlayer]

If you really believed that all women were evil you'd become gay.

?

 

[Trump]

This has gotta be the stupidest post ever. Getting advice about "how all women are evil wh0res" from a man who has failed with women is driving away guys who actually wanna learn.

He has never said 'all women are evil *****s'. He has never said he has failed with women.

Both statements are assumed/made up.

Every single guy who is on this site wants to get their d1ck wet. Does that not count as wanting something in return for taking women out on dates?

Yes you are paying for sex.

Poon King will no doubt respond to my post with the words "faggot" or "white knight" but I'm just getting tired of guys on here who blindly agree with whatever he says. About 30% of what he says is accurate but most of it is wrong and will lead men to being failures not just with women but in life. Having a positive attitude about everything including relationships is much healthier than what he spews out.

That's funny. I had a total positive upbeat attitude when I was younger and girls told me to go to hell when I asked them out.

I listened to PK and the girl I'm with now wants to have sex everyday.

 

[bigneil]

Emotional argument.

Once you stop viewing prostitution as a bad thing.. suddenly the term is not so bad. But this thread is where white knights expose themselves.

True, rather than saying "She is using him for money and he is using her for sex" (as if we can have both sides be bad with no victim), if we simply use the word "utilize" we realize the process is nothing more than a bird eating berries from a tree.

 

[TheProspect]

No kid gloves for grown men (or women) from me.

If people are "offended" then they can cry and call your mommy. I post my opinions as they are.

Also.. if being called a name is all it takes to send you into an emotional death spiral then you need a therapist more than you need "Poon King's guidance".

I only belittle those who provide emotional arguments against logical claims.

Why belittle anyone? Someone with an overt emotional bias will only become close-minded when insulted, then the intent of your message (demonstrating to men how to attain maximum leverage) is overlooked by the tone of it and the subsequent insults. I agree a lot of people overreact just by merely having their opinions challenged by you, but I don't see that as a sufficient reason to dilute your message by berating them. I'm not preaching that everything should be sugar-coated so men don't cry to their mommy, but why not try to have your message resonate with more men by simply not insulting them? There's a difference between using logic/facts to give someone a firm reality check and alienating them because they disagree with you. I don't believe in "safe spaces" or protecting peoples feelings, I just think there's a better way than being a prick to men you're trying to help.

I agree with most of your content, and your delivery does not offend me on any level. However, I catch a lot of people who are put off by you. Some of those are just people who are professionally offended and will never receive insight from any content or ideas that differ from their own, they're a lost cause. But some of those people are ones who are on the fence. They may identify with your message but then are knocked into ignorance or a position that they refuse to give up because of a passive-aggressive remark or an outright put-down by you. Most people can't debate critically when their emotions are knowingly being provoked. Do we just say "fvck them"? I don't think your message is what bothers people, it's insinuating they're gay idiots which prevents them from wanting to open their mind and learn from your content.

I'm not saying I disagree with your method or suggesting you change it, just trying to comprehend why you intend to help men but at the same time ostracize those who are unable to grasp your content (which IS valuable) because they are incapable of temporarily detaching their subjective emotion/beliefs to your objective content. You're essentially calling people gay idiots for not learning via your teaching methods. Everyone learns differently. That's great that your motif is being an uncompromising logical hard ass but it limits your audience (those who benefit from your content) instead of expanding it.

 

[TheProspect]

You know why? Because emotions motivate action, thought, introspection, etc.

They also motivate people to shut off their critical thinking and listen/read to reply instead of to interpret and understand.

 

[sazc]

@TheProspect you read my mind.

@Poon King once I took a second, sat back, and got thru a few of your posts, I realized that you were using prostitution as a metaphor. But I had to take a few to get there. You have a message. you have good conversation points. the delivery can lack

 

[C00lAF]

Emotions aye....isnt that what got most of us here?

 

[Roober]

I have a buddy who used to have this idea... why bother wining and dining a woman, when you can spend the same and get an escort to do exactly what you want and anything you want?

I kind of get it now, as there is a time and money investment to bed women. Now, his game was not very tight, so he likely had to spend more than some of the savages here. But the point remains, you have to spend "something" to get these women in the sack, the same way you pay a prostitute..

 

[highSpeed]

It should be obvious.. but for some reason.. pop culture loves to mask inherent human selfishness.

Women provide sex/affection to men in exchange for "something". This something can be the following:

• Status
• Image
• Kids
• Money
• Resources
• Security
• Attention monopoly (commitment)

This "quality woman" dog sh!t needs to be put to bed. Women vary in levels of ambition and ability, BUT the goal is always the same: Use her sexuality to "take" from men in some way or another.

Prudes vs. Sluts and Plate Spinners vs. LTR betas. What is the difference? I'll explain:

• Prudes = Try to extract the resources first and give the sex later (if at all)
• Sluts = Give sex up front in hopes of later resource allocation from many men later
• Plate spinners = Try to extract the sex first and give the resources later (if at all)
• LTR betas = Give the resources up front in hopes of later sex allocation from one woman

This is the game in a nutshell. For all the complex discussions and arguments we have here.. it all boils down to this. Women are prostitutes. ALL of them.

MEN: Take this knowledge and use it to your benefit.

I see where you are going with this Poon but I have to disagree with there only be 2 categories of men. Me as a guy, I don't have the time or desire to spin plates. I have a strong business going, I want a companion and sex. I don't want to pick up sluts at bars. I don't want to bang prostitutes. I don't have much an interest in gaming women either. That concept seems like herding cats to me, you might get some results in the short term but long term? That f#cking cat is going to go wherever it wants at some point. So yes, I suppose you could spin plates, bang women but I'm more interested in my career. Ultimately, especially when you get older, is what is going to garner women. Yes, you can stay in shape but most 25 year old women are not going to want a 60 year old man unless of course you've got resources. You can take them places, you can introduce them to people and the like. That career you've worked for pays off for you more in your later years than your younger years. LTR betas may be men that really powerful guys that want arm candy, that want regular sex without all of the hassle and the like. However, the social contract that western society has operated off of for thousands of years, has largely been broken over the last 50 years or so. Now, you as a guy can give the resources but the girl can say f you, I've got your resources, bye bye! Oh and by the way, you're going to pay for me and the kid(s) for a long time. The guy may be stupid but that doesn't mean he's beta. The guy may be naive but that doesn't mean he's beta.

I'd truly like to see most, if not all guys, really work on going around modern social conventions, girl power crap and the like, to put them back in their respective places. Hey, if you're a chick and you want to be a billionaire and can do it, do it then. Don't feed off of a man or ride his coat tails to success, do it on your own. However, assuming that most women don't have those same empire building urges that men do, if you want the resources, you have to pay out. If most or all men starting holding their feet to the fire on this, this is going to change how society works again, going back to a more logical order of things. This is good for males and females. What we have now goes against the universal order of things.