What are some things that show a females attraction and commitment level?

[EyeBRollin]

Ok, well when a 10 goes from being on the same page to not being on the same page, I care. And I never call her names.

Stop pedestalizing women based on looks. 10s almost always have ****ty sex and ****ty personalities. It's just a notch on your belt. Don't base your self esteem on how many 10s you bang.

 

[bigneil]

Stop pedestalizing women based on looks. 10s almost always have ****ty sex and ****ty personalities. It's just a notch on your belt. Don't base your self esteem on how many 10s you bang.

Caring is not pedestalizing. There is no care-free dating of 10's.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Caring is not pedestalizing. There is no care-free dating of 10's.

When you care more than she does, you've already lost.

 

[bigneil]

When you care more than she does, you've already lost.

False. Virtually every time a man meets a 10, he cares about her more than she cares about him. A man has to win a girl over, which takes time. The last time I seduced (what I consider) a 10, she was the most beautiful girl I ever saw. Are you saying if she didn't think I was the most beautiful man she ever saw, the relationship ended spontaneously right then? It did not, trust me. It wasn't until the third time she saw me that she had a crush, and not until the fourth time that she "liked" me, and not until over a (sex filled) month later that she "fell". Meanwhile, I never loved her more than that first instant. That would be impossible.

 

[_sideways_]

Everytime a man meets a "10" he cares more....how the fvck is this a thing ?

You already know every males mindsets?

Sure, I've been a horny teen and I cared about having boobs in my face etc.
But come on....you maybe, have had to "work" to win her over, but not all men.

Bro...in this world, both men and women can literally have 10 on 10 sex.
No need to win her over, or let her casually fall for you....or allow her to see how great you are over 3 dates.
If she's waiting for 3 dates to stick her tongue down your throat then she fell for your wallet, not your dazzling beautiful face she couldn't resist to make out with.


Plus you mostly date strippers anyways so your theories and conclusions are stripper based. Mostly...

Not hating bro, let me be clear, but you are mostly talking waitresses, bar maids, entertainment folk.

Plenty of 10s nurses, professors, teachers, etc...that feel way differently about what makes you a 10 or any of us a 10.

 

[bigneil]

Everytime a man meets a "10" he cares more....how the fvck is this a thing ?.

Moron: by definition of 10. See Language.

 

[bigneil]

If she's waiting for 3 dates to stick her tongue down your throat then she fell for your wallet, not your dazzling beautiful face she couldn't resist to make out with.
Plus you mostly date strippers anyways so your theories and conclusions are stripper based.

Who said it was 3 dates? I said 3 encounters (all 3 she was on stage). I spent $12 and said about 40 words by the time she had a crush.

We had kissed by the third text. By the fourth text I had figured out that we had met at a 5 star hotel where she worked 9 months earlier. She said she had a crush on me then too.

As a general rule, I only date 50% strippers. I have 30 years experience dating beautiful women 1987-2017.

 

[EyeBRollin]

False. Virtually every time a man meets a 10, he cares about her more than she cares about him.

You're on your own pal. I treat all women the same. 7s, 6s, 10s. How they react to me may be different, but I'm as methodical as they come. Ive ****ed some pretty damn good looking women. In my experience, the hotter the chick the worse her personality and the worse the sex. The sweet spot is somewhere around a 7. I like women that are giving by nature. Good look finding 10s with that characteristic.

 

[bigneil]

You're on your own pal. I treat all women the same. 7s, 6s, 10s.

False. 10's physically produce a different reaction than 7's. We're talking about YOUR specific dream girl. By definition of what 10 means - perfect (for you) - she will categorically, demonstrably have more of a physical effect on you. Especially over time, and especially if she is making a 100% effort to seduce you. I hope you find your 10 some day so you'll understand that they are not the same as a 7. (It takes time also, you can't just fall instantly).

I've only been with about 3 (IMO) 10's in my life. 2003 (had a date and blew it), 2007 (paid her in Amsterdam), 2016 (finally got it right).

 

[Poon King]

False. 10's physically produce a different reaction than 7's. We're talking about YOUR specific dream girl. By definition of what 10 means - perfect (for you) - she will categorically, demonstrably have more of a physical effect on you. Especially over time, and especially if she is making a 100% effort to seduce you. I hope you find your 10 some day so you'll understand that they are not the same as a 7. (It takes time also, you can't just fall instantly).

I've only been with about 3 (IMO) 10's in my life. 2003 (had a date and blew it), 2007 (paid her in Amsterdam), 2016 (finally got it right).

If you are confident in your ability to f*ck a 10 AND you can easily replace them.. there is no reason to "care" more than you would with any other woman.

We are not talking about physical reactions to seeing a 10 and getting horny. We are talking about the emotional act of "caring". There is no reason to care about a woman you don't have a bond with OR a woman who doesn't like you, respect you or want to be with you.. regardless of looks. When you view situations from a perspective of abundance and you see every woman as replaceable (because they are) 10's won't intimidate you.

Anytime you FEAR losing a woman you have lost the game. Doesn't matter how hot she is. Why? Because its impossible to lose a woman you are on the same page with. So if a woman leaves.. she is not on the same page with you. Therefore, she SHOULD leave and you should welcome it.

A man's leverage is his time and attention. If he is not willing to take that time and attention away.. he has no power in his relationship whatsoever. This makes him a faggot.

 

[bigneil]

If you are confident in your ability to f*ck a 10 AND you can easily replace them.. there is no reason to "care" more than you would with any other woman.

We are not talking about physical reactions to seeing a 10 and getting horny. We are talking about the emotional act of "caring". There is no reason to care about a woman you don't have a bond with OR a woman who doesn't like you, respect you or want to be with you.. regardless of looks. When you view situations from a perspective of abundance and you see every woman as replaceable (because they are) 10's won't intimidate you.

Anytime you FEAR losing a woman you have lost the game. Doesn't matter how hot she is. Why? Because its impossible to lose a woman you are on the same page with. So if a woman leaves.. she is not on the same page with you. Therefore, she SHOULD leave and you should welcome it.

A man's leverage is his time and attention. If he is not willing to take that time and attention away.. he has no power in his relationship whatsoever. This makes him a faggot.

False. A 10 (for you) has not only a 10 physique, but is a 10 in terms of a connection. You can't "easily replace" a woman in the top point one percentile in looks AND who is a great match for you. If you do, you will need to sample about 10,000 women.

Caring is an emergent property that happens over a steady time of a sufficiently beautiful women making a sufficiently effective seduction, combined with your tolerance/experience. An inexperienced man will fall in love with a pretty girl who smiles at him. A more experienced man will fall in love with a beauty after several months of sex. If you never fall, you could have done better.

Personally, I want a girl who makes me care because I will first experience bliss and (usually) then enough pain to inspire me. Nothing inspires me more than heartache.

I estimate that about 1 in 10 women who I date get me to fall.

 

[Poon King]

False. A 10 (for you) has not only a 10 physique, but is a 10 in terms of a connection. You can't "easily replace" a woman in the top point one percentile in looks AND who is a great match for you. If you do, you will need to sample about 10,000 women.

Caring is an emergent property that happens over a steady time of a sufficiently beautiful women making a sufficiently effective seduction, combined with your tolerance/experience. An inexperienced man will fall in love with a pretty girl who smiles at him. A more experienced man will fall in love with a beauty after several months of sex. If you never fall, you could have done better.

Personally, I want a girl who makes me care because I will first experience bliss and (usually) then enough pain to inspire me. Nothing inspires me more than heartache.

I estimate that about 1 in 10 women who I date get me to fall.

Well.. if a woman is a "perfect match" then you have nothing to worry about. RIGHT?

BUT your view on relationships is very juvenile and naive to put it kindly. Ultimately, you and me just have different priorities. I care more about power, dominance and sex than intimacy and "connection". I like to dominate a woman.

You want to pedestalize one woman and accept servitude under her until she loses interest.

Which strategy is better? I think the answer is obvious. But do what you want.

 

[bigneil]

Well.. if a woman is a "perfect match" then you have nothing to worry about. RIGHT?

BUT your view on relationships is very juvenile and naive to put it kindly. Ultimately, you and me just have different priorities. I care more about power, dominance and sex than intimacy and "connection". I like to dominate a woman.

You want to pedestalize one woman and accept servitude under her until she loses interest.

Which strategy is better? I think the answer is obvious. But do what you want.

Congratulations! Poon King claims to have found a way to make 10's be perfectly reliable forever!

Accept servitude? Never.

We can't have it both ways. 10's by definition are exceedingly rare. There IS scarcity with 10's, not with hot women. You're pretending 10's aren't scarce. By definition, they are.

And as far as dominating her, I made sure to tie her up when I had the chance. But after I untied her, she held her heart against my own she got the connection she wanted so we were both happy. I found that the intimacy was a completely different feeling, but just as exciting. Much more rare. You don't know until after you score. It's about vibrational frequency.

And please: tell us how many 10's you've had wrapped around your finger? By definition, I don't have an abundance of my favorite girl over the past 30 years.

 

[Poon King]

Congratulations! Poon King claims to have found a way to make 10's be perfectly reliable forever!

Accept servitude? Never.

We can't have it both ways. 10's by definition are exceedingly rare. There IS scarcity with 10's, not with hot women. You're pretending 10's aren't scarce. By definition, they are.

And as far as dominating her, I made sure to tie her up when I had the chance. But after I untied her, she held her heart against my own she got the connection she wanted so we were both happy. I found that the intimacy was a completely different feeling, but just as exciting. Much more rare. You don't know until after you score. It's about vibrational frequency.

And please: tell us how many 10's you've had wrapped around your finger? By definition, I don't have an abundance of my favorite girl over the past 30 years.

There are 10's by YOUR standards and 10's by general standards.

By general standards I don't believe for a minute you've ever been with a 10. Those women are all f*cking celebrities, billionaires and owners of modeling agencies. They're not messing with normal men like you. A 10 by "my standards" is a submissive sex slave that I find more physically attractive than most women. Such a thing is indeed rare.

Your question isn't rooted in reality or logic so it can't be answered. It also can't be answered because my priorities are different than yours. All you care about is a woman being a "10". And so.. you become a possessive, co-dependent faggot to any woman you consider to be a 10. For me.. I care more about power and leverage. I'm happier if I can dominate a relationship with an 8 over worrying about "losing" a 10.

 

[bigneil]

There are 10's by YOUR standards and 10's by general standards.

That was a given. All 10's are 10's by our standards. 10 is a relative term, like Alpha. There is no absolute 10 or Alpha. A 10 is not someone that YOU say is a 10. By "my" 10 I mean my particular dream girl.

 

[EyeBRollin]

That was a given. All 10's are 10's by our standards. 10 is a relative term, like Alpha. There is no absolute 10 or Alpha. A 10 is not someone that YOU say is a 10. By "my" 10 I mean my particular dream girl.

Your dream girl doesn't exist. Take off the rose colored glasses.

 

[bigneil]

Your dream girl doesn't exist. Take off the rose colored glasses.

I guess I'll have to settle for a girl rated 99% on photofeeler who made love to me like no other. Sigh.

 

[DamnSon]

Listen, you've got to take your dream girl, the hottest girl you've ever seen in your life and realize at some point she's had explosive diarrhea.

A 10 is usually a materialistic skank, they have many options and you're disposable... I would define a 10 for me though, an intelligent career driven woman, who doesn't give a **** about what brand her jeans are.

I would prefer having a relationship over a jaded, calcified experience here on earth.. it's easy to tell a woman to get the **** out of here" in the beginning, when you aren't invested.. but if you've got a magnetic connection, no red flags and this swan boat for two is smooth sailing towards the love tunnel, it's hard to stop. The difference is not allowing yourself to be walked over. You have two options when **** goes south after you're already in love and so much invested, you must assert your value by being prepared to walk away or just eat ****.

It's tough

 

[bigneil]

Listen, you've got to take your dream girl, the hottest girl you've ever seen in your life and realize at some point she's had explosive diarrhea.

Wait, you are comparing her against an imaginary perfection? Every girl has that, so it cancels out via normalization (oh, wait, that's not until 10th grade). This is the same thing as expecting that if you don't rate my 10 a 10, that she is not a 10. It is relative. If a 7 is the hottest girl rated on average, she is the 10, explosive diarrhea or not.

A 10 is usually a materialistic skank, they have many options and you're disposable...

So if they are not, they have higher value?

You have two options when **** goes south after you're already in love and so much invested, you must assert your value by being prepared to walk away or just eat ****.

It's tough

Again, we have high schoolers who have never had a 3 month relationship pretending that one hiccup = low interest. But wait, if sex already happened, it's not low interest.

It's shocking to see how, on a forum where people pretend to help men score, that when you actually score, you see this venom.

You guys need to realize something: once a man bangs a girl, he won - forever.

"You know you are over the target when you start to catch flak".

 

[EyeBRollin]

Wait, you are comparing her against an imaginary perfection?

This is the same thing as expecting that if you don't rate my 10 a 10, that she is not a 10.

It is relative. If a 7 is the hottest girl rated on average, she is the 10, explosive diarrhea or not.


So if they are not, they have higher value?

You're arguing about a bunch of **** that doesn't matter.