Has anyone's advice that you've gotten work?

[TheFixer14]

I am just interested in the ratio. I have found what most people have told me hasn't worked. Most podcasts and **** haven't work. For example: I have heard "let the woman do all the talking when you are on a date." Tried it. Thought the date went well. Text her for a second date, nothing. Before that I went on dates with this one woman that I felt thatI spoke too much. But I am still talking to her.

The best material that I've come across is the art of seduction and the pook of pook. There's been a few people here and there that have given me some good advice. But it all seems regergetated.

What are your thoughts?

 

[SmooveMooves]

No. No advice here ever works. Everyone just lies to each other in effort to make them look bad so there is less competition in the dating market. The members with 'senior' near there name have been doing it the longest and are the most skilled. In fact, that is the secret reason this forum was created. Once you reach 10 career posts you will get an automated PM from the site Admin with how to properly deceive other members. The only advice that really works comes from cosmo & loveshack.

 

[Billtx49]

Use the forum and reading material for a knowledge base only. No one can give advice online for a certain situation because in reality they are fluid and subject to change, as well as women having different mindsets.
Knowledge, situational awareness, and ability to adjust if necessary mid date are your best tools to use.
Even with those though you will still get some strike outs.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

YupMsomeone told me to read TRP. That worked.
Also read "the sex god method" that worked too.
Here I am, dating successfully, and having a much better sex life.

 

[Ratiocinative]

You're just interested in me? Wow I'm flattered, thank you.

But yes, you are a lot better off asking for advice. When you are emotionally invested in a woman, especially if you have been with her a while, it can be difficult to give yourself advice. It's only natural to want and assume the best about a situation, but a neutral person can give you an honest assessment of your situation.

Per your example, you should let the woman do most of the talking but not all. Women communicate by sharing emotion, hence they talk a lot and are verbose, but you still need to share a little bit about yourself. A woman needs to feel you understand her. Share you life experiences that relate to the experiences she shares with you. If your date enjoys teaching kids, share you experience as a camp counselor.

 

[bigneil]

READ POOK BELOW:

Indeed it was failure that brought us all here.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

Maybe people look at it the wrong way.. .
If you are being your genuine best self and it doesn't work then you just screened out another woman you weren't that compatible with.
If you are a talker naturally but she doesn't like that then congrats, another bullet dodged. Obviously don't drone on' enchanted by the sound of your own voice because nobody likes that.

I get that we all learn from our failures but realistically women don't even know what they want half the time.

To put it another way...
You manage to talk that hb9 into a date. You go out. You are charming and seductive but you still get shut down at the end of the night.
Is it your failure?

What if you find out that she just came out of a violently abusive relationship and is scared of intimacy?
Is it still your failure?

What if you find out she is really into abusive men? Are you going to become one just to get the lay?

What if you find out she just had an argument with her husband and wanted to piss him off?
Still your failure?

Women do have lives that don't revolve around us (shock horror). There is other sh-t going on. I know conventional wisdom on these boards is to next a girl if she takes more than 5 mins to reply to a text but maybe we need to be a little realistic too. Sorry rambling.

Don't always assume it failed because of something you did. Game is not a superpower. There is no-one who hasnt failed at this. There is no-one who hasn't had moments of thinking "WTF just happened.!"

 

[JohnChops]

The best line is "nice shoes, wana ****?"

 

[TheFixer14]

YupMsomeone told me to read TRP. That worked.
Also read "the sex god method" that worked too.
Here I am, dating successfully, and having a much better sex life.

I hate that subreddit. I'd like to check out the sex god method.

Nobody has the perfect line, trick, or opener.

How long have you been working on it?

It takes TIME it takes PRACTICE. There's nothing easy or quick about it.

Well that's a long story. So long story short I was a pick up artist for about three years and got some ONS and dates. But nothing that made me happy.
Then I got out of the game and went MGTOW for the majority of the year. But I found MGTOW is sad. While I do not consider myself a PUA anymore, I got back to dating about a month ago. I am a little out of practice. But overall I am more attractive so I've been getting dates a little more.

Maybe people look at it the wrong way.. .
If you are being your genuine best self and it doesn't work then you just screened out another woman you weren't that compatible with.
If you are a talker naturally but she doesn't like that then congrats, another bullet dodged. Obviously don't drone on' enchanted by the sound of your own voice because nobody likes that.

I get that we all learn from our failures but realistically women don't even know what they want half the time.

To put it another way...
You manage to talk that hb9 into a date. You go out. You are charming and seductive but you still get shut down at the end of the night.
Is it your failure?

What if you find out that she just came out of a violently abusive relationship and is scared of intimacy?
Is it still your failure?

What if you find out she is really into abusive men? Are you going to become one just to get the lay?

What if you find out she just had an argument with her husband and wanted to piss him off?
Still your failure?

Women do have lives that don't revolve around us (shock horror). There is other sh-t going on. I know conventional wisdom on these boards is to next a girl if she takes more than 5 mins to reply to a text but maybe we need to be a little realistic too. Sorry rambling.

Don't always assume it failed because of something you did. Game is not a superpower. There is no-one who hasnt failed at this. There is no-one who hasn't had moments of thinking "WTF just happened.!"

I agree with post just about 100%. Sometimes I feel PUA or people into seduction are a little to hard on themselves. Not everything is going to be your fault. Like with that woman, maybe her friends talked her out of seeing me again (she mentioned how she spoke about me to her friends before we went out), maybe she met a guy that she got attracted to more. Maybe she didn't have as good of a time as I thought. I don't know. But it could have nothing to do with me.

I've always been more about being myself at the expense of not getting what I want be it women, friends, acceptance, and etc.

 

[wifehunter]

Yes, I think that's why we're all still here.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I like the advice to do whatever you want to do. It's worked out well for me.

 

[Serenity]

If a famous actor told you exactly how they do it, you wouldn't do it as good as they do.

That does not mean what they tell you is wrong, it just means it still takes practice. You also cannot expect advice to always work, especially in dating nothing works all the time. There's no magic pill and nobody here is claiming that their advice is.

However, there's certain things that improve your chances over other things. Do not take any advice to the extreme though. Being told to "let women do the talking" should not be interpreted as shutting up 99% of the date. It's an advice that is aimed specifically at guys who talk waaaay too much, but the correct advice would be "try talking a little less and let her talk a little bit more".

Use advice to shift your balance a little, not go from one side to the other. Neither talking too much nor talking too little is a good strategy.

Same with texting advice, like being told "stop texting her all the time". Guys go from flooding her with 10+ texts a day to never sending anything, the right way is somewhere in between. They just had to reduce texting, not quit it completely.

Even if you have found something to work very well, it will not always work. This is because women are different and respond differently to the same things. So again, it's about finding what works most of the time, not what always works because there is no such thing.

The best way to receive helpful advice is to describe your specific situation in detail. Those details help us understand what type of woman it is, what you might be doing wrong and what will work on that particular woman. Any general and vague question will get equally general and vague advice, which is in most cases useless.

And yes, I've gotten a lot of advice that works. That's because I understand that advisors need good information to give accurate advice.

 

[daddymonsterpoodle]

I also think we asume all women are the same and in the same breath there is an inbuilt assumption that we are the same. After all if all women are the same then then they will all respond the same way to the same techniques. In very broad brush strokes there may be some truth "be confident, fark her good. "
I am 6'7" I use that a lot as an intro. The 5ft 2 guy can't.
I am a confident talker but I am not a gym junkie. I am not a male model. So I am going to rely on building attraction by what I say and flirt vetbally more than preening and wearing tight tops to show off my build.
I worked for years in nightclubs. I hate them. I dance like a retard. I can't do good conversations in a nightclub. Therefore I don't do nightgame very much because I don't enjoy it. The really buff guys can.

Give me an afternoon on the beach and I fel really comfortable and can use my strengths. One method doesn't work for everybody.

Those gym bunnies are gonna love the gym guys. The women who like tall guys with good conversation are gonna like me. Its not a failure if I am just not someone's type.

 

[TheFixer14]

^
I believe that's due to us getting it pounded in our heads that women are not special and that they are not snowflakes. While I understand the reasoning behind this and there is truth to this, all women are different. That's what makes dating multiple women fun. You can date a party girl, a nerdy girl, an athletic girl, a southern girl, etc, etc, etc.

I went out to the club last night. I was wondering why I hate clubs now. And then it hit me when this milf pulled me out on the dance floor: I can't dance. I don't want to put myself out there like that. It's not very fun to dance poorly in a club. And like you said, you can't do good conversations in a nightclub. I don't even try to talk when I go in one anymore.

I got IOIs from a few cute girls. But because I am not a confident dancer I didn't do anthing.

I'm realizing more and more that it's better to do things that involve women (I am in a new master acting class, I am looking to get into fashion photography, starting a new band) and have a social circle than having to go out to the night clubs and do work there.

And yeah, you won't be everyone's type. That's a thing that tends to get overlooked. Even some women don't like Brad Pitt.