Too much rejection

[Burnout92]

Hey guys, so I seem to have a bit of a problem. I just can't seem to get women to date me consistently. I'll get phone numbers from girls in real life and on Tinder and then when it comes time to ask for the date, I get radio silence.
This happens 95% of the time and I'm starting to get really bitter about it. I try to keep that mindset that's there's always more out there, but after a long slew of rejections I have a hard time keeping my head up.
How do I deal with all this rejection and not let it affect me personally?
Am I doing something wrong?

I've attached an example of a typical conversation.

 

[Reykhel]

What's your schedule like sounds like corey wayne faggotry.....

Tell the bytch where she's going and that's it.

Honestly I wish you'd all drop this what's your schedule like gayness...

Be decisive. Be a man that knows what he wants and knows how to get it....

Have balls, don't be a wishy washy gayboy

 

[Burnout92]

What's your schedule like sounds like corey wayne faggotry.....

Tell the bytch where she's going and that's it.

Honestly I wish you'd all drop this what's your schedule like gayness...

Be decisive. Be a man that knows what he wants and knows how to get it....

Have balls, don't be a wishy washy gayboy

Fair enough. What happens though, when you are decisive and say "meet me at x place at x time" and then it genuinely conflicts with their work/school schedule? Because I've had that happen too

 

[Reykhel]

Fair enough. What happens though, when you are decisive and say "meet me at x place at x time" and then it genuinely conflicts with their work/school schedule? Because I've had that happen too

Fair question....

This is the moment when.......you get to gauge HER INTEREST LEVEL.......

does she make you a COUNTER OFFER......or does she offer you AN EXCUSE like my cousin's coming up from vegas......

if she offers a counter offer....obviously she has interest.....

if all you hear is an excuse.............move on...

 

[Reykhel]

If she is genuinely busy and interested......she will counter offer....

if she doesn't counter offer.......she probably ain't interested...

easy, no?

 

[Burnout92]

If she is genuinely busy and interested......she will counter offer....

if she doesn't counter offer.......she probably ain't interested...

easy, no?

I guess you make a really good point there. Brad Pitt rule....Thanks!

Now, is there anything that can be done to make counter offers more likely to occur?

 

[Young OG]

Before you ask for the number on tinder, say "we should grab a drink sometime." If she says yes, then go for the number.

When you text her, try to throw in some more chit chat before you set up the date. In the screen shot you provided, you came off as desperate and thirsty by trying to set up the date so quickly. You don't have to have some big convo either.

Reykhel is spot on about the question you asked...

 

[Burnout92]

Before you ask for the number on tinder, say "we should grab a drink sometime." If she says yes, then go for the number.

When you text her, try to throw in some more chit chat before you set up the date. In the screen shot you provided, you came off as desperate and thirsty by trying to set up the date so quickly. You don't have to have some big convo either.

Reykhel is spot on about the question you asked...

Well, you could be right...It's happened to me before too when there was some playful flirting/small talk thrown in too, though. I actually use to do a lot more of that, but I guess gradually over the years I've been of the school of thought to set up the date ASAP for maximum efficiency...I may have to reevaluate my approach...Thank you.

 

[Young OG]

Well, you could be right...It's happened to me before too when there was some playful flirting/small talk thrown in too, though. I actually use to do a lot more of that, but I guess gradually over the years I've been of the school of thought to set up the date ASAP for maximum efficiency...I may have to reevaluate my approach...Thank you.

You definitely do need to throw some more small talk into there before you set up the date. Will that make it so you never get rejected? No, it won't. But, it will increase your odds that you won't get rejected. Rejection is part of the game and it will happen way more online.

Your best bet is meet online girls at a bar for drinks. If a second date happens, then you can do something better.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

What's your schedule like sounds like corey wayne faggotry.....

Tell the bytch where she's going and that's it.

Honestly I wish you'd all drop this what's your schedule like gayness...

Be decisive. Be a man that knows what he wants and knows how to get it....

Have balls, don't be a wishy washy gayboy

Haha, good ole "Life Coach Corey Wayne" and his $1000 an hour to tell you how to tell a girl she's beautiful, or how to tell your ex you miss her and to come over for some candlelit love making for old times sake.

 

[Slash Dolo]

Honestly I'm going to go against the grain here and say that the issue is texting. Texting women is useless to build attraction, or even rapport. Game her and ask the girl out in person. THEN ask for a number just in case.

In reality I have an almost 100% success rate with getting dates. On Tinder/Social media/whatever, I'm lucky if I get 50%. Just do it all in person.

 

[wolf]

If you always do what you have always done then you will always get what you have always got

 

[Burnout92]

Well, what I can tell you guys that I have learned from this discussion and reflection on past scenarios:

1. I need to build more rapport with women before asking them out, whether it be in person or online.

2. I need to be more decisive and direct. "Meet me at x place at x time". No trying to figure out where I can fit into a woman's schedule/life. She needs to fit into mine

 

[Dingo]

"Laurrrennn!"..... Ugh..... No....

 

[Burnout92]

"Laurrrennn!"..... Ugh..... No....

Say what you like but girls almost always message back on that. It's good to use when you can't think of anything else to say.

Didn't ask for help with opening. It's closing that is my problem.

 

[JohnChops]

What's your schedule like sounds like corey wayne faggotry.....

Tell the bytch where she's going and that's it.

Honestly I wish you'd all drop this what's your schedule like gayness...

Be decisive. Be a man that knows what he wants and knows how to get it....

Have balls, don't be a wishy washy gayboy

I use that usually. What's wrong with seeing when they're free and morphing their free time into your free time... It isn't faggotry, its simplistic. If I say I'm going here at this time on this day, that's fine except what if she's busy... Work, kids, school, doesn't make sense to set yourself up for failure because of a scheduling issue.

I don't like the way you're texting. Just keep it simple, fucm these games, just ask for her number. She knows why you're on the app anyway.

 

[btownbuck2012]

OP,

Honestly what you're experiencing here is pretty common. Not really anything wrong with your vibe or what you said to her but most girls will flake out like this. You just have to keep getting more numbers and eventually you'll find a girl who really eats it up. There was a post done on this site a long time ago by a guy who's name I can't even remember who talked about finding the right girl for you is really about running all the different potential women you meet through "the machine", i,.e. you put enough inputs into the machine, eventually you'll get what you want popping out on the other end. Don't flap around in the wind and tailor your outreach specifically to what you think each girl you are trying to pickup wants. You've gotta tailor your game to what makes you happy and to how you feel best about it. If it's not what some girls like, then f*ck em. This approach will take longer to find a girl that really likes you and who is right for you, but in the end when you finally get her you'll know you've got a woman who really likes YOU, not some bullsh*t act or technique you used on her based on the type of vibe she was giving off.

For example, I'm the kind of guy who looks for an LTR. When it comes to women and sex I am happiest when i'm in a relationship with someone. Casual sex, one night stands and the bar scene leave me filling empty and very depressed. Therefore, I tailor my game to this approach. Sure, any guy can learn game and go get laid after hitting on women at a bar, but remember that women will f*ck guys not necessarily because they like THEM. There's all other types of things at play there. It's SO SO important to make sure that the woman you're with actually LIKES YOU.

For example, after a first date I will NEVER text her first or call her until she reaches back out. This ensures that the woman I had the first date with actually wants to see ME again; that she actually has interest in me, rather than PUA tactics that I could use after the first date to reach back out to her to get her interest level to keep raising.

Again, this is for an LTR. Casual sex and just getting laid are a completely different story, but my point is I do experience a-lot of flakiness from women and you shouldn't take it personally.

 

[Burnout92]

Your tips are already producing better results. Thank you guys.

 

[The Duke]

Burnout- I'm wondering from what little you have shared if you aren't building enough rapport. You seem to go for the kill very quickly. It comes across as you only want one thing, and don't have many skills. Its like the guy at a bar that goes in on some girls and two minutes into it he is asking if they want a drink.

Work on improving your salesmanship/communication skills. That's how you connect with women. That's what they are looking for.

 

[SummerNight]

I didn't read the whole thread but the OP but on Tinder it's more of a numbers game and with the numbers you got IRL.. the initial interaction wasn't that good if the number keeps failing like that. You are chasing her and it's pretty obvious. Also, make sure that when you get the number she is in the same headspace as when you call/text her the next day. If you get the number in a messy club and then she sees the text when she is sober in school.. her emotions are way different and she might not be up to getting to know you.

Good way, if you are in a club, is to get her outside and tone the interaction down.. to the same level it would be when it was during day or when she gets your message.