Date won´t kiss on 2nd date

[Juanto]

$100 on the first date is expensive?? The average date costs $175 or so, so $100 is by definition cheap. She only gets half of it. In 2003 I took a girl for a small pepperoni pizza and beers (Pizzeria Regina in the North End of Boston) and it cost $100 for the date. I was so broke I had to borrow the $100 but that was not a lot then. Note she wrote to me a year later and said she still remembered how good that pizza was. Best in the world IMO. My date meanwhile won the WBCN River Rave Bikini Contest circa 2001. I called her "the ten".

Why would a girl want to go out with a man who can't afford $100? As Stefan Molyneux said on his recent podcast "Dating is about mating and mating is about resources. It's eggs for resources. People need to get over this". Women NEED resources if they want to raise children. It's not being a gold digger unless she leaves a guy with a boat for a guy with two boats.

If you can't afford to spend $100 on a date (drinks cost $14.99 at some nicer bars), you shouldn't be on this forum talking about women. First you get a better job, work harder, gather resources, then women will flock to you. Not only for the money, but for the fact the process makes you stronger and more interesting (after you pass the looks test, they ask what you do).

My first date last week cost about $170 (appetizers at one place and seafood dinner at another place, and yes, it was a highly rated restaurant). I only take women to awesome places, or places they request.

That said, I'm 46 and my last date will be 21 next week. (Though she thought I was 32). In that situation, of course I'm going to take her to nice places. One, I only go to nice places myself. Two, if you want to date young super models half your age: you teach them about the finer things. $100 doesn't seem like a lot to me. That's about 1% of what I am currently earning - per week. Note that I met this girl at a 4 star hotel where she worked, and our first date was meeting (in the lobby) of a 4 star hotel where I was staying, where we did a photo shoot as we walked to dinner (at one of the best rated restaurants in town). It took months to get this date and years to find a beauty like this. I'm not trying to save money on the date.

If your first date averages 170/200 USD, what about the 2nd and the 3rd ones....?!

 

[Shift]

I like to spend as little as possible on the first date or two. Helps you weed out the ones who only like you for your money.

 

[marmel75]

Impressing women with money is faggotry. I have shagged girls with 'sugar daddies' before.

Money is not a real factor in this game. You start believing his sh*t, and you will become a socialist provider faggot.

Ignore it, and learn how this game really works instead.

The fella is amusing, but like a clown.

Pretty much ^^^^This...

 

[devilkingx2]

$100 on the first date is expensive?? The average date costs $175 or so, so $100 is by definition cheap. She only gets half of it. In 2003 I took a girl for a small pepperoni pizza and beers (Pizzeria Regina in the North End of Boston) and it cost $100 for the date. I was so broke I had to borrow the $100 but that was not a lot then. Note she wrote to me a year later and said she still remembered how good that pizza was. Best in the world IMO. My date meanwhile won the WBCN River Rave Bikini Contest circa 2001. I called her "the ten".

Why would a girl want to go out with a man who can't afford $100? As Stefan Molyneux said on his recent podcast "Dating is about mating and mating is about resources. It's eggs for resources. People need to get over this". Women NEED resources if they want to raise children. It's not being a gold digger unless she leaves a guy with a boat for a guy with two boats.

If you can't afford to spend $100 on a date (drinks cost $14.99 at some nicer bars), you shouldn't be on this forum talking about women. First you get a better job, work harder, gather resources, then women will flock to you. Not only for the money, but for the fact the process makes you stronger and more interesting (after you pass the looks test, they ask what you do).

My first date last week cost about $170 (appetizers at one place and seafood dinner at another place, and yes, it was a highly rated restaurant). I only take women to awesome places, or places they request.

That said, I'm 46 and my last date will be 21 next week. (Though she thought I was 32). In that situation, of course I'm going to take her to nice places. One, I only go to nice places myself. Two, if you want to date young super models half your age: you teach them about the finer things. $100 doesn't seem like a lot to me. That's about 1% of what I am currently earning - per week. Note that I met this girl at a 4 star hotel where she worked, and our first date was meeting (in the lobby) of a 4 star hotel where I was staying, where we did a photo shoot as we walked to dinner (at one of the best rated restaurants in town). It took months to get this date and years to find a beauty like this. I'm not trying to save money on the date.

how do you spend $200 in one date? do you fly them out to paris for champagne and caviar? those girls better be doing anal on the first date for prices like that holy ****

 

[PantyWhisperer]

I'm totally back to the $30 bj at this point. It's cheaper than NetFlix and chill but without having to sit through a movie I don't want to watch..

 

[devilkingx2]

I'm totally back to the $30 bj at this point. It's cheaper than NetFlix and chill but without having to sit through a movie I don't want to watch..

$30 is like two months of netflix lmao

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm totally back to the $30 bj at this point. It's cheaper than NetFlix and chill but without having to sit through a movie I don't want to watch..

For that price you can do daily

 

[EyeBRollin]

My first date is either coffee for $6, free at the park, or ONE round of drinks.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

My first date is either coffee for $6, free at the park, or ONE round of drinks.

I actually prefer my first date to be a coffee date. Do you think it is a bit wussy though, in that they may be expecting you to be a little more aggressive by asking them out for a drink?

 

[EyeBRollin]

I actually prefer my first date to be a coffee date. Do you think it is a bit wussy though, in that they may be expecting you to be a little more aggressive by asking them out for a drink?

If she's actually interested enough to show up, she won't care. Go by your schedule. Mid afternoon coffee is good if you're evening is already booked with friends or a different chick

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

If she's actually interested enough to show up, she won't care. Go by your schedule. Mid afternoon coffee is good if you're evening is already booked with friends or a different chick

Actually, that is a good point... from a gaming perspective. You don't want to show her you are too available. Coffee is like an interview process before you take it 'prime time'. Just have to make it not seem like an interview process for that.

I remember, a woman once mentioned to me that the idea of meeting for coffee kind of felt like an interview. She was obviously more comfortable with meeting for a drink.

 

[foreverAFC]

I'm totally back to the $30 bj at this point. It's cheaper than NetFlix and chill but without having to sit through a movie I don't want to watch..

30 dollar bjs, are you paying crackwh0res or what

 

[ubercat]

Can't resist making the pitch. Or just get yourself an Asian girlfriend because they're better and you'll get a BJ every time they're on the rag.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

For that price you can do daily

See how much full service cost. For $30 for head she probably will charge $50-$70... That's way cheaper than having a wife that puts out daily...

 

[Juanto]

I'll approach this within your frame.

Listen, once you understand her front: you are the one with power. She wants to covertly push a friendzone frame, that means she needs you more than you need her.

And consider the situation. She is a Polish (don't forget this - they have fvcked even me over in the past) immigrant, coming from the UK (surprise) that has been in your country for a few weeks, and got on meetup.com in order to build a network.

She is using you.

These girls are often a real acid test of your alpha/beta credentials. You either ditch her/move her into a low-investment game, or you do the gay dinner-date with her.

Be ruthless. She is (trust me on that).

You can move this to gaming and fvcking a low-interest and lonely woman (seriously no judgement from me on that), or you can roll-off and approach others. That is alpha.

Or, you can take the beta-way and hang around for her security whilst probably getting nothing.

3 options. Choose.

I went ghost since we discussed about this here, and funnily enough she just texted me saying this: "If u happen to be free somewhere in town this night, let me know - might join you. Otherwise Monday is OK but lets do 9.30 and just drinks please. Hope its ok for you"

 

[devilkingx2]

Can't resist making the pitch. Or just get yourself an Asian girlfriend because they're better and you'll get a BJ every time they're on the rag.

every asian i've ever known seemed prudish

 

[EyeBRollin]

Actually, that is a good point... from a gaming perspective. You don't want to show her you are too available.

When you're actually hustling 5-8 chicks, there is no need to "show" her anything. Abundance is natural.

 

[pyros]

with the little information we have here, I guess she is not sure about you, she kind of likes you but not too much... so she prefers to have just drinks and be with you and hour or two, instead of dinner + drinks and spend several hours with you; she prefers to keep it short to decide whether she wants to get to know you more or not.
This attitude usually leads to no sex, but hey, just give it a try if you dont have anything else to do.

 

[ubercat]

Drinks is always hopeful especially if you can get her to bounce to a couple of bars. If you can get her to play pool or darts even better. Escalate the hell out of it two steps forward one step back. You know she may just turn up randomly horny well worth a shot.

 

[Juanto]

with the little information we have here, I guess she is not sure about you, she kind of likes you but not too much... so she prefers to have just drinks and be with you and hour or two, instead of dinner + drinks and spend several hours with you; she prefers to keep it short to decide whether she wants to get to know you more or not.
This attitude usually leads to no sex, but hey, just give it a try if you dont have anything else to do.

So, ended up meeting her on friday night. Went for drinks, and after for a walk. Ended up walking to my place, where she was offering resistance to go up with me. I told her I had to wake up earlier next morning (which was actually true) so anyway she could only stay for a limited period of time. In the end I just grabbed her hand and took her up.
Went to my balcony to enjoy the view I have from there, but she was still offering resistance to my advances, wouldnt even kiss. So I just said it was getting late and she took the hint and started heading for the door. There, she mention meeting again in the future and I said there wouldnt be any further meetings between us, after what happened and after me telling her i wasnt interested in just "being friends". She started to backpedal a bit and asked if we could talk further more but again in the balcony... so we went there and we finally made out. After, we layed in bed and continued to make out but she offered resistance to more physical advances . It was quite late so she ended up staying until next morning.

Need to find more plates to spin because even if my game is really tight, it may not be on the next date i finally bang this girl.