90% of your inability to get women comes from masturbation

[Trump]

Your inability to hook up with women, and even have a successful social life, comes from the fact that you have the option to masturbate.

Really? You're saying it has nothing to do with the way you speak, act, dress, and respond to the opposite sex?

Come on bro, masturbation and getting women have nothing to do with each other. If you suck with women, you are always going to suck unless you make some hardcore lifestyle changes. You are good with women, you are always going to be good.

Your above analogy is like saying your inability to get a job is because you won the lottery. It doesn't hold water.

 

[020204]

Are you sure this thread isn't trolling? I wouldn't go as far agreeing to the title of this thread, however for older cats, no fap is a very good way of self improvement. To say that someone will always suck with women and refer to people as losers somewhat defeats the whole purpose of this whole forum. Many people take themselves out of the game for various reasons, trying to ostracize any set demographic isn't really called for. Sure no fap may not work for some guys, power to them. In my experience and from talking to countless others I have found no fap beneficial. One only need look around the net, thousands of guys swear by it and so many great men have practised it throughout history. Don't knock it until you try it.

 

[bigneil]

I disagree with the OP. The healthier you are, the more often you will wake up with an erection. If that's not happening you won't want to find women at all.

As a man gets older, he will masturbate much less and get much less women.

That said, I once saw a great cartoon in Playboy circa 1992 about a guy masturbating to a girl on his computer while overlooking that right outside his window the same girl is naked in front of her bedroom window.

 

[020204]

I don't necessarily agree that men get less women simply because they are older, that is simply generalising. From my experience going out getting drunk and being in specific social circles is when a lot of guys get laid. Down Under it is anyway. The whole point of this forum is that game is another avenue, regardless of age. By engaging in conversation doing things like hitting the gym, self improvement is what it is all about. No fap is a good way to explore this, not the only way.

 

[d!ckmojo]

At the age of 30, I'm finding that if I ejaculate more often than once every 5 days or so, I feel my Kidney energy being drained, leaving me more vulnerable to lower back injuries in the gym. Therefore I try not to masturbate too often.

On the other hand, when I'm getting ready to go to the crossfit and do a hardcore WOD, or play a teamsport or something, I DO find it helpful to edge a bit i.e. view porn and get a hard on, but not push it over the edge to an ejaculation.

Edging increases testosterone, but ejaculation decreases it. I try to tread the fine line between the two in order to improve my performance, but sometimes I get carried away and blow it.

 

[zekko]

I don't necessarily agree that men get less women simply because they are older.

I don't either, unless it is by choice.
For instance, older men are probably more likely to be in an exclusive relationship. Other than that, I don't see any obstacles, depending on what sort of lifestyle they live.

 

[ArcBound]

It does seem to be like a magic pill, but just to play the devil's advocate:

http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-pheromonal-beta/

Our favorite moderator Rollo Tomato has a plausible theory (with no evidence as in his disclaimer).

 

[n00bPimp]

Really? You're saying it has nothing to do with the way you speak, act, dress, and respond to the opposite sex?

Come on bro, masturbation and getting women have nothing to do with each other. If you suck with women, you are always going to suck unless you make some hardcore lifestyle changes. You are good with women, you are always going to be good.

Your above analogy is like saying your inability to get a job is because you won the lottery. It doesn't hold water.

Thanks for bringing up this point.
I'm not saying that masturbating is a direct cause to not getting women, I'm saying that it messes your ability to get good with women. Your motivation to go out to a bar and practice approaching random strangers will be less if you masturbate often. Because you'd rather stay home and masturbate than go through the whole trouble. I'm not saying you'll instantly bang a girl, but you will put your heart and soul into the practice much more than if you had the option to masturbate.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Obviously, there's plenty of variables involved in how well one consistently pulls hot A$$.

On the one extreme, if you stop fapping completely, stop looking at porn or even girls, even stop having sex, your body will stop producing sperm, and make a lot less testosterone. Then you'll be content to sit in the woods and watch birds sing.

On the other hand, if every time you see a hottie at you you run home and fap until you can't move, you won't get much play either.

Sure, a happy medium would be to look at porn every day, and promise yourself you can only ejaculate by the hand/mouth/vajayjay of a woman, but most guys don't have that much willpower.

You could trick yourself into improving your game, however. look at some porn, get all worked up, and then promise yourself you won't fap unless you number close ten girls or something.

When that gets easy, then kiss close somebody, or whatever.

Lots of emotions / hormones / feelings surround the whole fapping issue.

Plenty of ways to use them for your advantage.

I even read a strategy where you use fapping to "manifest your goals." You create a goal, make a very specific visualization for it, and then think of that specific visualization whenever you ejaculate, either by yourself or somebody else.

Even Napoleon Hill talks about the dangers of over-fapping.

It's a powerful force, might as well leverage it to get what you want, rather than wasting it on porn.

Maybe I'll write a book:

"Fap Yourself Rich"

 

[user43770]

I'm certainly more confident when I abstain from masterbation. I'm more likely to look a woman in the eye and make casual conversation. I'm also more likely to cvm in about 2 seconds, so if you have a possible hook-up in the near future, I'd go ahead and clean the pipes.

 

[jason coleman]

good morning!! im jason and im new here..so glad i found a fourm that is soo manly..lol...ok lets talk about masturbationnn!!..and i want to comment on the person that said not wankin willie will effect picking up girls or not ...well.coming from a guy who was cranking his cord 3 times a day and is no...wait..was no good at talking to women...if i saw a woman that i thought was yummy as hell..my heart would start beating out of my chest..omg it was so bad..i was stuck in my head and all that bull ****..lol **** this ill just squeeze one out when i get home..problem solved!!...it sucks because im handsome.and i have a tight lil bod and im super talkative funny as hell and very engaging...ive been experimenting with nofap on and off..soo i went a week and a half and im horny as **** but it feels goood not releasing my man powers!! and i also for the week and a half have not been drinking..so i went to pay my tab at my fave restaurant last night and decided to take a stroll to a bar i would go to ..just to check the scene..soon as i walk in agirl i know says omg jay...lets go have a shot..and i wasnt planning on drinking at allll so we go to the bar and my freind is sitting there alonne..who i might add is a sexy senorita..she wants to by me a beer..so i itroduce the 2 ladies next think i know one of them starts talking about making a porn..this is great im thinking..and for a second i think they were almost fighting for my attention!!...but wait it gets better!!...behind me is a juke boxxxx.so the girl that was using it walks away..and i ask if she is done..she says yes what are you gonna play?...i jokinly ask her if she wants to supervise my musical choises..she agrees...now were besties at the juke box..i did notice sh was with 2 dudes tho...soo my first 2 girls go potts and the new girl lizz sit with me at the bar and we chat it ip..then she asks me to come meet her friends..( i dont really want too)..so i go introdce my sellf...his name is jason as well not sure where the other guys was....but after a while it was clear he wanted me gone!!..very clear!..but iknew i could of gotten her number...but any wayyyyy thant **** never happens to me..i regret drinking but im ahump back on the wagon tomorrow....one month no drinking and no abusing abraham!!..there is this hottie at my bank and our reckless eyeballing is getting out of hand i must get her number and not be weird..lol...but ppl have told me me weirdness is my part of my charm..lol..so im gonna not gonna please my peter for the rest of the month..and im gonna walking in that bank..and when she sees me shes gonna be like..*** ON MY LINEEEE...*** *** ***...ehhem.i mean hi jason!!....well im optimistic huh
but i do feel sexy and powerfull..and just ughh!! good so im gonna continue..sorry for the run on sentence but im glad i got it out...(no pun intended)...keep u posted on the bank girl..happy sunday..and remember the walking dead returns in 2 weeks!

 

[Vantagepoint34]

This goes back to Darwin and his fail moment. Enviorment, Librarians, you should know Germans still exist. Do you really want to watch Hitchcock with your pants down. Haha.

 

[El Payaso]

Masturbation actually makes you less thirsty and needy for women.

 

[wifehunter]

Nonsense

 

[Mike32ct]

Masturbation actually makes you less thirsty and needy for women.

Fair point. I think it's a YMMV situation. For some guys, yes, fapping can "take the edge off" and allow them to relax more around women, thus improving their game. Agreed.

But for other guys, chronic masturbation can make them lazy and unmotivated to meet women. It becomes the path of least resistance. This can lead to long dry spells and deterioration of their game.

 

[NSX-R]

Masturbation actually makes you less thirsty and needy for women.

And awkward with women.

 

[PantyWhisperer]

I masturbated to this thread, and I feel pretty ok now.

 

[wifehunter]

And awkward with women.

Likely stemming from guilt... a man has to do what a man has to do.